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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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another post

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/listen-up-here-ed-jones

Some people lose their minds for the littlest things. It's like a cult thing I guess.

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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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He has been increasingly harder to deal with and abusive to staff. I have only dealt with him twice. He has only had 6 posts. Be he demands action almost every time, instead of asking staff nicely.
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He had better watch it or he will be banned like you were.
https://getsatisfaction.com/people/edwin_jones_iii?
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xbox. IMDb can easily check to see if your IP address matches a banned user account. Of which I'm 100% sure that you are, Otherwise you would not be spamming this post.
Get Satisfaction, IMDb, and I communicated on the matter you are pointing out and came to the conclusion that they had no mechanisms in place that determined when and what type of language was deemed abusive. After carefully re-looking at the postings in question a determination was made to reverse their decision.

If your attempt was to point out that I'm some how hiding from the Edwin Jones account, you are mistaken. An error was made and the decision was reversed.
Therefor my behavior is nowhere near the level that has been exhibited by Filmlover24. He would loose an appeal.

Thank you for posting. But your link reference had no bearing on this discussion.
Please adhere to the rules of the Get Satisfaction Community.

https://getsatisfaction.com/corp/terms-of-service/

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Nope I have not been banned by anyone. Sorry to disappoint you.
However it is best for those you are trying to get banned to be aware you were in fact twice banned. Yes not once but twice.
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Yes I was banned the second time because I POSTED publicly that I was a sockpuppet. A brand new post. Stating that I believed that it was wrong to do what I was doing. And that the first suspension was unfair.
That led to the direct contact with sprnklr, GS and IMDB.
They reversed their decision.

Second attempt on your part to embarrass me publicly.
It did not work.
xbox, you are violating policy.
Please I implore you not to post one more item that is not germain to this topic.......................
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I would never intentionally embarrass you. Sorry if this has.
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xbox

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Thank you.
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MikeTheWhistle

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pretty obvious stalking. brand new account but yet you refer to something long ago and only posts on this subject. Simply looks very sad.
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xbox

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Thank you for the comments. 
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Oh to be clear xbox, I had 3 accounts. You are off by one. Only one remains active with IMDb. The other two were reinstated along with  this account. I closed the other 2. Yes I had 3 active accounts. But it was wrong to have the other two active here.
Are we clear?
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xbox

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Yes I am aware only one remains active. You had two that were banned and one that was active that was combined into the two banned accounts.
Dreamweaver was the other.
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Mike, what really bothers me is if I can catch all this errant behavior, then where is a staff monitor from G.S. or IMDb?

I was once told not to do this as Site Monitors.....well "Monitor"

Seems that they were not.
So I started making posts.
If I can have the capacity to catch this, where is IMDb and Get Satisfaction?
I seem to have to ask that users to be nice to staff. Staff seems to not address this except for Will and Claire.
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xbox

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Who knows eh!
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Yes I am aware only one remains active. You had two that were banned and one that was active that was combined into the two banned accounts.
Dreamweaver was the other.

What is your real account?
What is your real name?
I operate under mine!
Show thyself!!
And for your info you are wrong.
This is the DREAMWEAVER account.
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/ed_cliffj_jones_d_weaver

I renamed it using all 3 account names.
Sir you purpose here is only to agitate as stated by Mike above.
You are attempting to bait me into errant behaviour.
Not gonna happen.
The more you post, the more obvious you become.
I know that you could care less if your account is suspended, but please behave according to the Code of Conduct stated above.
Pleas do not reference or address me further about anything that does not relate to the topic here or is a repeating of information already posted above. That is spam that is covered in the Code Of Conduct above.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Bye
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I wonder how many new credits you'll get now Ed.
The shame is you are very quick posting helpful info to new posts for people and I've picked up alot from reading your stuff. As you had put in some reply, you're a northeast big city background and can be abrupt sometimes. There are times when you can be a little hard but my background is such that it just rolls off my back and read past it. But there are days when for personal reasons I'm not feeling good and may not take things as well, and I try to understand others have the same problems sometimes. But creating an account solely to try and be nuisance is simply over the top in my opinion and serves no purpose. What is even less sensical, is that filmlover's issue is one where a complete misunderstanding of who can do what. I wonder how many of their changes were done not by people but by some auto system so in effect he's arguing with a computer.  Look out, Hal may be on the way.
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Approve the submission Hal. Hal approve the submission. Please add the submission in the pod bay Hal. Hal?
Hal don't flush me out of the submission pod! Hal? Ooooh Noooooooooo!
Image result for matrix movie pod flushing
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Oh and I checked my page.
Thanks to all that visited...
Highest number ever.
Not bad for a Comedian with no TV or Movie appearances except for the 5 O Clock News.

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xbox

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Goodbye Ed, I will miss you. Yes I shall go now and ban myself. 
Keep catching those criminals. 
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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The postings have gotten worse.
Won't post them here.
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Hi Ed -

Thanks for your reports, our staff are aware of the inappropriate behavior and will take further applicable actions.  Thanks again!
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filmlover24's profile
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/filmlover24
Page not found :(
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filmlover24
https://getsatisfaction.com/people/filmlover24
Joined December 01, 2017
Suspended Privileges:
IMDb.com
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https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/can-somebody-please-remove-this-nonexistant-company-and-its-...
Can somebody please remove this nonexistent company and its credits? (IMDb.com) 
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?companies=co0727391
With NBeebies (Sorted by Popularity Ascending)
No results. ( Aug 1 2019 )

Posted 2 days ago
by filmlover24
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Last reply 2 hours ago by filmlover24
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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C@@L
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If you think someone is being abusive and you want them to stop, a good first step would be not replying to all of their posts.
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Peter is the real voice of reason. Some of these threads are an embarrassment to the IMDb contributors. Some of these (even banned) people are also victims.
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Thank you Peter and E-Boy.
Your input makes sense.
This contributor, Filmlover24 abused a Champion and a Staff Member.
Or did you not notice?
Your input while appreciated is pointing fingers.
You both have just engaged in the same behavior that the both of you have just accused me of right here. Right now. I know what I have done. I was trying my level best to calm an individual down. This was done prior to this group of posts. You did not read those before commenting here. If intervention had been in place the last time that Filmlover24 was out of line, we would not be here discussing these things. All of these like topics I have posted in the last 6 months was to make staff aware of the fact that a lot of over the top abusive swearing was being used and had gone unnoticed. I was hoping that it would bring attention to the issue. But sadly all it has done is make me a target of abuse myself. These things don't just go away on their own. If I can notice these over the top verbal abuses, then where is someone to address them? Champions don't have the actual time to read all the posts. You are all awarded your status and given limited administrative abilities. I have witnessed random removal of posts that did not contain angry replies or swear words that were meant to inflame. Innocent remarks mind you. Bad taste remarks. But removed none the less. But where was staff, G.S. Mods, or the Champions here on this one?

This contributor was abusive prior to my ever replying to him.

The Story:

I replied Peter because he posted the same post on one subject 5 times. He got a thoughtful early reply from one Champion. While it pretty much backed up what was later to be Michelle's decision based on my and Nikolay's first thread input, the individual would not accept no for an answer.

On the second Post gromit82 who was not aware I believe of the first post replied without the knowledge of the first decision made by Michelle based on my research and Nikolay's. So I posted Michelle's reply denying his request from the first post. This was to inform gromit82 that he was dealing with a post where a decision had been made already on the individuals first request for removal of a companies name from the database. I did not want gromit82 to get into a situation of contradicting an Employee or another Champion unknowingly without the knowledge of the decision made by Michelle. I did so on the rest of his brand new posts as a first reply on those subsequent attempts so that contributors would not waste time on the topic or say something that would give this individual any fuel to actually make him think that Michelle had made an incorrect decision. Again protecting my fellow contributors.

Now while this individual who has been making abusive comments long before these posts that you have only just now read and are commenting on, was led to believe that his abuse was acceptable behavior because no one had taken the time in an official capacity to make comments directly to the individual. That's the embarrassment here.

Fortunately we can talk here as this thread is about abuse. I realize that both of you in some form dislike me. It does not bother me in the least. I'm from the USA. A lot of people that contribute here are not from the USA. Peter, you and E-Boy are not from The USA. I know this from being here for this short time. I respect both of you tremendously.

But Filmlover24 was an American. I can tell because as the old saying goes, "It takes one to know one" applies here. I and a lot of Americans can sometimes be considered very rude and arrogant. I can be that way unintentionally/subconsciously, and while neither of you have read every word I have posted nor read every thread I have replied to, you both have chosen to consider me in that category, and that somehow I need "Shaming" from both of you based on the few times our paths have crossed. If Filmlover24's errant behavior been addressed earlier this would not have happened.
I have noticed that with the absence of Col Needham from here for the last 90 days that these individuals that abuse the staff with vile language and threats like this have gone unchecked. No one has taken up the slack while he is away. He was the boards true monitor. His absence is sorely missed.

Again, a thank you to both of you for your input.
You have attempted to inform me and instruct me which is a good thing. But I was already aware.
If I was like some people, I would be angry at this. But I'm not that way.
Your hearts are in the right place. I Think. I hope.
Bless you both.
Cheers.
Ed
:):)
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Ed,

I am painfully aware of the abuse. I suspect IMDb staff is also aware of the abuse. Champions and staff have seen much worse.

Responding to an abusive user only makes the situation worse. The best course of action is post that the user is abusive, ignore their posts and let IMDb staff deal with the problem.

Getting into a flame war with an abusive user puts both your IMDb and Get Satisfaction accounts at risk.
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Dan Dassow, I mean, I'm not as experienced as other Champions and I've seen much worse, indeed, but directly using slurs for both users AND stuff is not something I see everyday here and filmlover24 did both. Not that I'm advocating flame war, though. I must admit, I sometimes engage in it myself, to be fair, and I'm not proud of it: it's the matter of personal triggers... 
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Thank you Dan and Nikolay.

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