When viewing the full cast of Game of Thrones, it correctly shows Sean Bean as being in 10 episodes (all in 2011) as Eddard 'Ned' Stark when expanding the list of episodes under his name. However, next to his name and character, it incorrectly says "13 episodes, 2011-2016". Despite saying 13 episodes, he is sorted between actors with 10 and 11 episodes.
It also says 2011-2016 in his Known For on his page.
This could possibly be because the same character was played by another actor for three episodes in 2016, although that actor is credited as Young Ned and was also in a fourth episode in 2017.
I don't know if this is an isolated incident.
It also says 2011-2016 in his Known For on his page.
This could possibly be because the same character was played by another actor for three episodes in 2016, although that actor is credited as Young Ned and was also in a fourth episode in 2017.
I don't know if this is an isolated incident.
Posted 1 year ago
GMJ, Champion
That's the same one I linked. It says: "The (archive footage) attribute is used for footage that was shot for a separate, earlier production (and not for the same series if TV)".
Which it meets. He has a credit only. Not an archive credit.
It meets it because IT IS NOT an archive footage shot.
You are quoting the wrong topic
It meets it because IT IS NOT an archive footage shot.
You are quoting the wrong topic
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Valid Attributes
- (uncredited) - No on-screen credit. For acting credits, this must include a character name or some kind of description. For further details, please see section E, 'Cast Attributes: uncredited' below.
- (credit only) - Someone is credited, but did not appear in the title. This is common in TV shows where regular performers sometimes do not appear in a particular episode but retain a screen credit.
Please read GMJ's comment, which shows there are three uncredited archive credits. The credit only in Fire and Blood is not part of the issue.
Could you show a screenshot of these? They don't appear anyplace that I see.
GMJ may have made the submission for removal. It may be now reflected as live on site already.
It still shows up on Sean Bean's page for me.
Could you show a larger picture of that, that shows what precedes that listing, and what is directly after it?
It is nowhere to be found,
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000293/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
It is nowhere to be found,
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000293/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
Archive footage is in its own category at the bottom.
Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
Adding to what Matt said: in the TV series cast episode counter will count every episode actor is credited in, despite some of those being part of "Archive Footage". Another example of that odd trait:
The only thing that is out of whack is the total episode discrepancy.
That's what my post is about. It's caused by the archive credits.
If you believe they violate policy submit a deletion request through the edit function on his page.
I know how IMDb works. I'd like to hear what an IMDb rep has to say about the archive credits before deciding whether to delete them. Regardless of that, the display problem is still an issue.
Michelle, Official Rep
Hi Matt -
As others in this thread pointed out, the episode count includes all credited sections, which is why the additional 3 archive footage credits are included within the count. If I understand the issue at hand, you are reporting that it is confusing that Sean Bean is listed with an episode count of 13 episode credits on the "Game of Thrones" series page:
But the drop-down displays only 10 episodes:
Is this correct?
As others in this thread pointed out, the episode count includes all credited sections, which is why the additional 3 archive footage credits are included within the count. If I understand the issue at hand, you are reporting that it is confusing that Sean Bean is listed with an episode count of 13 episode credits on the "Game of Thrones" series page:
But the drop-down displays only 10 episodes:
Is this correct?
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Michelle that is one part. He brought up another fact saying that the archive footage is incorrect according to policy. It is archive footage from Game of Thrones, within Game of Thrones.
Reprint from above.
Thanks. That explains the problem. However, it still looks confusing to A) say 13 episodes and only list 10, B) count the years of the uncredited archive footage episodes as years the actor appeared on the show, and C) sort the actor in the cast list under a number different to what is shown.
Besides, archive credits from the same series shouldn't be listed to begin with, as mentioned in this guide. That is, unless someone from the IMDb staff thinks we should make an exception based on the other rules?
Reprint from above.
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Thanks. That explains the problem. However, it still looks confusing to A) say 13 episodes and only list 10, B) count the years of the uncredited archive footage episodes as years the actor appeared on the show, and C) sort the actor in the cast list under a number different to what is shown.
Besides, archive credits from the same series shouldn't be listed to begin with, as mentioned in this guide. That is, unless someone from the IMDb staff thinks we should make an exception based on the other rules?
Question, Michelle.
Should those "Archives credits" actually be listed within the credits as uncredited?
Should those "Archives credits" actually be listed within the credits as uncredited?
Hi Michelle, that is correct. It looks confusing. I also wonder whether those archive credits should exist to begin with, as the policy is somewhat ambiguous.
Will, Official Rep
Hi Matt,
You are correct, those archive footage credits are ineligible. I've removed them now.
Regards,
Will
You are correct, those archive footage credits are ineligible. I've removed them now.
Regards,
Will
Thank you Will
Thanks, Will. Though the problem isn't "solved". The main issue is how confusing it looked. Had the archive credits not been incorrect, as could be the case for other examples, it would still have the same display problem.
Matt
Besides, archive credits from the same series shouldn't be listed to begin with, as mentioned in this guide. That is, unless someone from the IMDb staff thinks we should make an exception based on the other rules?
GMJ, Champion
Matt