Adding quotes to series level

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I'e recently added some quotes to the series level pages of some TV shows.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6601082/quotes
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0988818/quotes

However, I couldn't link these quotes to their actors, because the system doesn't enable using actors' names anymore. What has happened? Is it possible for this to be fixed? 
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Hello there,
It only lets you link series level quotes to actors when those actors are listed at series level. Most quotes should be done at episode level, except in the very rare cases where the quotation is actually at series level like when it’s a repeated catch-phrase used in multiple episodes.

Steve
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So when i need to add/correct a catchphrase quote on the series level page, what do I do?
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Firstly, you need to get the actor(s) concerned recorded as being in the series at series level. Which can usually only be done if they are in the vast majority of the episodes. Or you could try selecting the episode as (series level) and the person speaking as Other. Then specify the performer and the character for each line of the quote. Steve
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Hmm, sorry for hijacking this report, but I'm trying to do the same thing and I can't work out how to actually do what you're describing, Steve.

The series page for Warehouse 13 has two quotes on its series-level Quotes page attributed to the character "Artie Nelson". The only problem is, that character doesn't exist. Saul Rubinek's character was named Artie Nielsen, all 64 episodes credit him as Artie Nielsen, and that's the way he's shown in the series-level cast listing.

On individual episode pages, where there are also "Artie Nelson" quotes listed, I've been able to make corrections by doing as you say: Start the correction, change the character involved from "Artie Nelson" to "Other", and then after checking a field comes up with a "Name:" dropbox, and selecting "Rubinek, Saul" automatically fills in Artie Nielsen for the Character. Easy-peasy.

But at the series level, there's no way to specify the performer. The dropbox for "Name" contains only Choose and Unknown.  I can set the name to Unknown but of course that's not actually true, and loses Saul Rubinek's credit as the performer. And if I type in "Artie Nielsen" for the Character, it also causes this very odd error to show up in the warnings:
  • The character name for speaker #1 does not match the cast list.
    The character name Artie Nielsen does not match this person's character name in our cast list. If you are certain this is okay, please ignore this warning.
(I don't see how "Unknown" would have a character name in the cast list to begin with.)

Maybe the issue is, as Will notes, that the series-level quotes are leftovers of deprecated functionality (when there were series-level cast lists), and are no longer supported. But there's a lot of old data still present in the IMDb that was created under that old functionality, and some of it is incorrect.

I'm in agreement with Q Leo Rahman, it's rather disappointing that the retiring of the tools (without retiring the data) apparently means that no longer any way to correct errors.
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Hello FeRD
I said:
> Firstly, you need to get the actor(s) concerned recorded as being in the series at series level. Which can usually only be done if they are in the vast majority of the episodes 
 
That's the best way, if you can't get the actor concerned as being in the series at series level, why do you think that the quote should be at series level? 
 
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why do you think that the quote should be at series level?  
I don't, or at least I don't have an opinion one way or the other. But clearly someone else did, because the quote is there, with the wrong character name. 

If submitting Saul Rubinek as a series-level actor will still be accepted (he was in all 64 episodes of the series, so it's hardly a stretch), and allow me to fix the character name, then cool. Bit of a long way 'round, but whatever works.

The series-level cast list for the show is currently completely empty, and I was sort of under the impression that wasn't used anymore. Apologies if that was an incorrect assumption on my part.
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It is only possible to add series-level cast while there are no episodes are listed. Steve’s suggestion will not work.
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A workaround might be to add the quote to an episode first and then submit a correction to move it to the series level. But I haven't tried it.
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Hi Q Leo Rahman,

The reason you can still link to certain character names on older parent series is because of historical functionality which pre-dated the launch of episode specific ttconsts. Unfortunately there is no existing workaround for this now that you can add quotes directly to the episodes.

I'm sorry that I can't be of more assistance this time.

Regards,
Will 
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I consider this a disappointment and a concern. Not a major priority, but still something I'd like to be fixed.

Thank you all for your answers. 
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This issue still is not fixed, after this thread and a separate one, in which I reported the same problem earlier this year (2019 - search "magnificent evans" and/or "Gerald Jones, Ph.D." or you can look at my original submission 190316-160620-688200, which was not posted) The key solution offered is that (I paraphrase), you can't enter quotes at the series level unless the actors are listed at the series level. A related post notes (again, I paraphrase), the actors should appear in a drop-down under 'How many people are in this quote' on the submission template. Well, for this show - "The Magnificent Evans" (tt0086753) - the actors, who are in each of the 6 episodes (the entire run of the series), are listed at the series level: Plantagenet Evans (Ronnie Barker, the main star) and Rachel Harris (Sharon Morgan, his paramour) with links to their main actor pages, but they still do not populate the drop-down in the submission template after 'How many people are in this quote'. The drop-down contains only the character name "Rachel Harris", and the "Other" choice. Either someone is reading these 'solutions' and assuming the problem is fixed, or they are finding that it works by testing the process in a different way that what I am using. If the latter, please educate me (thanks in advance).


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This is the only way I could get it to go green.
Baffling!!!