advanced search for fewer than 5 ratings misses many

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https://www.imdb.com/search/title?num_votes=,5&lists=ls025185363
yields no results, even though
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0030684/  Road Demon ('38)
is on the list and "needs 5 votes"

I tried this search on multiple lists, with at least one other that definitely had such a title on it, and get no results.

This search gets some results, but not the title above:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?title=road&title_type=feature&num_votes=,5&sort=releas...

Here are other features that have 0 rating that year, but don't appear in the search results:
Swing That Cheer (1938)
The Little Adventuress (1938)
Hits and Bits of 1938 (1938)

The problem is not restricted to 1938 titles; I just thought I'd provide extra titles within the same year for your testing.
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Posted 1 year ago

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@ bderoes,

I've confirmed the problem you report.

If you sort the ratings of the list ls025185363 in increasing order of number of votes without restricting the number of votes:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?num_votes=,&lists=ls025185363&sort=num_votes,asc&page=...

Road Demon (1938), which has less than 5 votes appears at the end of the search.

When you restrict the number of votes to 14 or less:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?num_votes=,14&lists=ls025185363&sort=num_votes,asc&ref...

Sweetheart of the Navy (1937), which has 14 votes, appears in the search.

It appears that field storing the number of votes is not populated with a numeric value if the number of vote is less than 5.
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Exporting my list confirms that the number of votes on Road Demon ('38) is blank. I rated the film on 2017-12-27, so the number of votes is not literally 0.

It's a shame that the test is so restrictive, namely that a blank field is not interpreted as 0.

Thanks for your work, Dan. 
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@bderoes,

Thanks for confirming that the number of votes on Road Demon ('38) is blank by exporting your list.
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Hi all,

I am checking with the team in charge of Advanced Search to confirm if this is expected behavior, thanks in advance for your patience!

- Steve
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Steve,

Thanks for the follow up.

I hope that this is not the expected behavior of Advanced Search. This would make it difficult to find films that have less than 5 votes.
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Hi all,

Just an update on this - we do have a fix in the works, but as of today this is expected behavior. As title with less than 5 ratings don't have an average rating in our system yet these are omitted from Advanced search results.

I am changing this topic to an Idea so other user can provide their input as we push towards a fix. Thanks again!


- Steve
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Thanks Steve.
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It looks like this is still a problem despite the new search launch, sorry, so converting it back to the problem category. 
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Created a new ticket with the team to investigate here, thanks for the continued patience all!