Updates to Advanced Search

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As Col referenced in his earlier post (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0),we're pleased to announce that today we've launched some updates to the Advanced Search pages. As the world’s most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content, IMDb is continuously making improvements to our website and apps based on our customers’ feedback and the usage of our many features. The changes to the search pages are as follows.

The Advanced Search page has a new layout with links to Advanced Title Search, Advanced Name Search, and the Collaborations & Overlaps search. The Title Text Search and Name Text Searches have been temporarily removed, but will return. The list of Browse By links has been reduced to eliminate duplication on the page.

The Advanced Name Search is built using a new search system that lays the groundwork for searching across more of the IMDb content in the future. The ability to get results that include or exclude list of celebs is not included on the Advanced Name Search page, this is a temporary limitation and will be returned to the page in the future.
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OctoberSpirit x

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It really sucks that you can't search within the "quotes" category anymore. I used that all the time. Why remove that function?
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Graham

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Thanks for returning the "Advanced Search: Soundtracks" option.

However, really disappointed that it does not appear to work the same way as the old version.

If I search for terms of two or more words, the search returns every instance of each word and not just just the whole expression.

e.g. Bob Dylan - returned 1,497 results, most of which were just for instances where  'Bob' alone appeared in Soundtracks.

Including the expression in quotes (single or double) did not change the results.

A search for Joy to the World returned 93,319 results.

How can I limit the search to the whole expression, and not each individual word?
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Ron

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I would also like to know how any operators work.  Like a way to subtract words, search for brackets or braces, or other characters, etc...  Are boolean searchs allowed, how about regex matching?  Thanks.
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@Graham
I'm happy to report that searching the Plot Summary is better than your Soundtracks experience. When I search for "atomic bomb" I get fewer results than when I search for "bomb". And it's supported on the Advanced Title Search page, so I can refine it with all those other criteria. 

@Ron
I'd love to have Boolean operators.
You might want to vote/comment on this Idea:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/advanced-title-search-enhancement-requests

@IMDb staff:
Will we be able to Refine these searches in future? I tried adding some ATS parameters to a Soundtracks search, and nothing changed. In other words, 
https://www.imdb.com/search/title-text?soundtracks=bob%20dylan&title_type=feature&release_da...
got the same number of results as 
https://www.imdb.com/search/title-text?soundtracks=bob%20dylan
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Thank you for the feedback and we will take it into account as we continue to plan and evolve search on IMDb. The parameters you tried are specific to the Advanced Title Search page and won't affect results on the text search pages, as you found.

Best regards,
Chris. 
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Ron

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I'd also like to add (to the list) the ability to do a case-sensitive search.  Thanks.
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IMDb is continuously making improvements to our website and apps based on our customers’ feedback and the usage of our many features
Anyone else find quotes such as these insulting and funny in a gallows humor kind of way? Every time you do an "improvement" these days, it is in actual fact a nerf; the removal of something useful, without a proper replacement, and completely and utterly disregarding the customers' feedback about the usefulness of those features, as well as a reskin (most of the time looking worse than before) of the remaining features...

Talking of the remaining features; you do a massive "update" to the advanced search, but you don't first fix the bugs in the advanced search, like the keywords search in the advanced title search? You can be glad you're running a pretty much unique service on the web, because if you were selling something, you wouldn't survive long running your site like that...

this is a temporary limitation and will be returned to the page in the future
Tip for the future; fix temporary limitations in an internal beta program before running them out to your customers! In a world with useful tools like VMware and Hyper-V available, as well as the decades-old ability to duplicate a database for testing purposes, doing testing on live servers if beyond belief!

Change is fine, as long as it is change that doesn't impose limits upon what was possible before, as such you should never change anything before you've actually tested it, and finished implementing the things that worked before, and that you intend to have available in the future.

The number of complaints coming along on this site (which isn't exactly easy to find for the average IMDb user, since it is run on a completely different site than IMDb and a such not intuitive to understand has anything to do with IMDb) every time you do an update, crying out for useful features that has suddenly disappeared, should speak books to you that the way you're doing these things now is the WRONG way to do it! Simplifying the administration on your part is a noble cause, but getting there shouldn't be something your customers have to suffer through. Do it, but do it in the background; get all the bits and pieces ready in the new system, test it internally, make a closed beta for contributors and super users, etc. - get all of it working, THEN roll it out full and complete to your customers, and fix the few remaining bugs, which of course cannot always be anticipated, quickly afterwards.

Currently you're just pushing out limitation upon limitation, and new designs worse than the previous, saying; "this is necessary, but we will fix it 'soon'(tm)" without even giving even the simplest clue as to WHEN we can expect the site to be working as intended again.

Please, for the love of movies and your precious customers (we should be priority #1, after all!), roll back everything you've done in the last couple of months, continue working on your vision internally, and give it to us complete and working when it is actually working!
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Tip for the future; fix temporary limitations in an internal beta program before running them out to your customers!
You know the context from https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0 ... these are very unusual circumstances, sorry.  My reply yesterday on that thread highlights some of the enhanced features which have launched as part of this work ... it is not all slash-and-burn.

The clock is ticking on the closure of all the old systems on Sunday and we have had to make many difficult decisions across over 210 systems and site features during this year.  The alternative in each case (and frankly the path many companies may have been tempted to take) would have been to simply close down everything on the old systems -- personally I have been on the receiving end of exactly this kind of decision on many sites and apps over the years.  Instead, the team have worked super-hard to do the best we can in each of the 210+ cases.  Yes, there are some permanent simplifications, but we feel they are still for the best. Yes, there are many temporary inconveniences, as evidenced even on this very thread, however, when you are temporarily inconvenienced by the removal of a filter or sort option or need to jump to another page to achieve something, please remember the alternative was not having the entire feature at all.  

Thanks for your understanding, and as always, we refer you to https://contribute.imdb.com/charter and http://www.imdb.com/pressroom/ for the bigger context on IMDb. 
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No one but you would suffer by you not making the end-of-2017 deadline you had set, obviously prematurely, for yourself as to the discontinuation of the old systems. We, the users, would have preferred it very much if you had continued to run the old systems further until you were actually finished perfecting the new system in the fashion I mentioned above. Nothing you mentioned in the original thread makes the absolute need to turn off the old systems on December 31st apparent or clear to us.

I have also not seen a list of which of the current simplifications, as you call them, are going to be permanent, and which you intend to bring back. And I do not understand the choice of a system that is incapable of doing everything you've been able to do in the past, instead of modernizing and fixing the systems that already worked. Of course, we don't see the back-ends that you see, but what I do see, or at least saw, is a not really that advanced database site that I fail to understand can be difficult to continue to deliver to previous standards, and even improve upon, without removing features.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled What happened to the ability to sort by height?.

I've always made use of the sort by height feature when looking up people by their birthdate etc.  Why did this disappear?
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We are pleased to announce the addition of birthday searches to advanced name search. Although we had a separate birthday search before, the new one is integrated with advanced name search on http://www.imdb.com/search/name so you can combine the birthday search with many other variables:



Birthdays today -> http://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_monthday=01-12

Birthdays today for people born in England -> http://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_monthday=01-12&birth_place=England,+UK 

Birthdays today for people born in England who have been nominated for an Oscar -> http://www.imdb.com/search/name?birth_monthday=01-12&groups=oscar_nominee&birth_place=Englan...
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Awesome! A welcome addition! :)

Could you add something similar for movies too? I remember, many, many years ago, the "on this date" pages, which today only contains lists of actors born on that date, used to have lists of movies released on that day. I've been missing that feature ever since. As such, it would be a welcome addition to the Advanced Title Search if you could search for movies released in a MM-DD format as well, listing for instance all movies released on 01-12 (today) any year, not just a specific year, which is all you get today. For extra usefulness it would probably be a good idea to have a dropdown box next to it, allowing you to choose if you want to search global or just a specific country.
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Thanks, but it feels like you're tackling all the easy stuff first. That makes sense, but we expect more, quicker.
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Could you add something similar for movies too?
This would be best posted as a separate idea, thanks.
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Thanks, but it feels like you're tackling all the easy stuff first. That makes sense, but we expect more, quicker.
We have plenty in-progress, but the bigger items take more time. It does not mean they are not being worked upon.
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Hello,

    Yes, I can confirm that we are actively working on restoring soundtrack and quote searching, in addition to the other searches for text in both titles and names.

Chris.
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Thank you for your continued patience. Today we re-instated the ability to find titles by looking for text in Plots, Quotes, Trivia, Goofs, Crazy Credits, Filming Locations, Soundtracks and Versions. We also reinstated name search by looking for text within Biographies, Quotes and Trivia. You can perform these searches from the http://www.imdb.com/search page.

Best regards,
Chris.