Contibutors Opinions and Observations on a Genre Removal For an Old Title?

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132134/?ref_=adv_li_tt

.....The Execution of Mary, Queen of Scots (1895)


Not Rated | 1min | Short, History, Horror | 28 August 1895 (USA)



As you can see it has a "Horror Genre" tag.
Since this is a historical film, I would like some feedback first before I submit a correction for deletion and correction of the tag.

Genres: Short | History | Horror

As you can see it only has the three tags.

My Question: Your opinion of replacing Horror tag with Drama.

I'm am asking first your thoughts on this.

It's better to ask a question and gain knowledge, than to learn from ones mistakes.
Although the mistakes, can be fun sometimes!

What do you all think about it?
Thanks
Ed
Cheers

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Jeorj Euler

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Looks like horror to me. I'm almost sure that, by the standards of 1895, it was horror. I'm not sure where it fits by today's standards.
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There was no IMDb in 1895 Jeorj! Yes it was horrible. Horrible is not Horror.
1990's and up Its Jason, Kruger, Texas Massacres', Slashers. = Horror.
There were beheadings in many a historical period pieces that you would never call Horror. That was Dramatical.
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Jeorj Euler

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It does not matter that IMDb did not exist in 1895.
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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My point exactly. The database categorizes based on today's standards

I'm almost sure that, by the standards of 1895, it was horror.

There were no Genre categories in 1895. So it's category is based on modern categorization.

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Jeorj Euler

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There is no evidence that the database categorizes by today's standards.
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Literature of Horror
The beginnings of the genre of literature of horror can be derived from the formation of the tradition of gothic
literature, which rose in the 18th century. However, the very beginning of the horror is connected with the works of English authors, who followed and developed the gothic tradition. They created characters that became archetypes for the genre of horror (monster, vampire etc.).
Based on the historic tradition and the frequent occurrence of supernatural elements, the genre of horror is considered as one “apex of the popular fantasy triangle” together with fantasy and science fiction. It is so despite the fact that fantastic horror is only one of the two flows of this genre that exist together with the so-called realistic horror.
Unlike science fiction and fantasy, the definitions of the genre of horror do not stand on the structure of various works; they rather focus on the esthetic aspect and emotions, which are evoked in the readers (fear, horror, anxiety etc.) Based on this, horror is defined as “a genre of popular literature focused on evoking emotions of
dread, fear and tension.”

In conclusion it does not fit the 1800's definition of Horror either.

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The film is so short (and silent) that it should probably just be categorized as "Short" and "History".
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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My point exactly
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It's definitely not horror, and I wouldn't call it a "drama," either.  This was made during the period of early cinema dominated by the "cinema of attractions," so-called because these are largely non-narrative films that don't fall into the movie genres developed some 20 or so years later with the rise of Hollywood and the studio system.

Specifically, it's a trick film, but even that is a rather retroactive label since this film in particular seems to be the first of its kind--made before Georges Méliès and others shortly thereafter popularized films based around such film techniques as the substitution-splice seen in this one.  But, then, I think Méliès has some pictures mislabeled as "horror," too.
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Thank you for your input. Goes with what I'm thinking. Want to have those I's dotted and T's crossed before I submit a correction on a film of this stature. Plus it would be my first ever submission on Genre. I tend to leave that type of submission alone because it is so subjective. This is the first time that I have come across a Genre tag that is obviously out of place.

A couple of more positives and I will fell better about the submission.
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Contribution #190113-083427-401000
Just made it.
Will keep posted of the result.
That is unless an employee jumps in with early news.
What ever they decide I will not argue it.
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Hi Ed,

Thanks for your post.

I can see the genre has now been removed from the title

Have a great day.

Joel 
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Thank you.