Maybe somebody else knows a clearer way to explain that an image tagged with an actor that isn't in the episode needs to be fixed because apparently I'm ignorant.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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bderoes, Champion
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I've learned to assume each item will be reviewed by a different editor, especially when one item is a Deletion.
Putting myself in an editor's shoes:
I find that I need to reread this explanation.
Not sure why I need to go to a GS entry (and since this is an image, I'm not going to type in the link.)
My advice:
Keep it simple: "This is Percy, but he does not appear in, and is not credited in, episode 4.12".
Send an appeal through the Contact Form (with the contribution #).
If that's also declined, post it here on GS, but label it Problem, not Praise.
Putting myself in an editor's shoes:
I find that I need to reread this explanation.
Not sure why I need to go to a GS entry (and since this is an image, I'm not going to type in the link.)
My advice:
Keep it simple: "This is Percy, but he does not appear in, and is not credited in, episode 4.12".
Send an appeal through the Contact Form (with the contribution #).
If that's also declined, post it here on GS, but label it Problem, not Praise.
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I actually came back here to revise my suggestion:
"This is Percy, but he does not appear in, and is not credited in, episode 4.12. This image is already correctly attached to episode 4.10."
I also wonder if it's better to wait for the addition to go through before requesting the deletion, so that you _can_ use the second sentence.
Maybe wait a few hours and read yours versus mine again. "you can tell by the fact that" is a little distracting. Perhaps "please observe that" might be better, but is that even necessary. (These are differences more in style than substance, but I'm trying to imagine reading this kind of thing over and over in the course of a day.)
If fixing season 4 is a lot of work for you, it probably wouldn't be any less for a staffer.
And I suspect they need the "paper trail" of user contributions to do much of anything to the site.
"This is Percy, but he does not appear in, and is not credited in, episode 4.12. This image is already correctly attached to episode 4.10."
I also wonder if it's better to wait for the addition to go through before requesting the deletion, so that you _can_ use the second sentence.
Maybe wait a few hours and read yours versus mine again. "you can tell by the fact that" is a little distracting. Perhaps "please observe that" might be better, but is that even necessary. (These are differences more in style than substance, but I'm trying to imagine reading this kind of thing over and over in the course of a day.)
If fixing season 4 is a lot of work for you, it probably wouldn't be any less for a staffer.
And I suspect they need the "paper trail" of user contributions to do much of anything to the site.
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I'm guessing this is what may sometimes happen when a correction is made
against an item that was previously submitted by somebody with a higher
contribution accuracy rating. Is it possible that Rodriguez made an uncredited appearance in "Florence Gets Lucky"?
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Learned something (higher contribution accuracy), so ty.
In this case no he did not make an uncredited appearance.
I've fixed a problem on
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0614863/?ref_=ttep_ep4
three times via submission, the contact, and here on GS and again a bad pic is back.
So there must be some automated something that keeps causing it. The actor tagged, and correctly, is not in the episode that is on this ep.
So it'd be nice to know what automated mechanisms undo fixes especially when it's been fixed 3x already using all avenues.
In this case no he did not make an uncredited appearance.
I've fixed a problem on
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0614863/?ref_=ttep_ep4
three times via submission, the contact, and here on GS and again a bad pic is back.
So there must be some automated something that keeps causing it. The actor tagged, and correctly, is not in the episode that is on this ep.
So it'd be nice to know what automated mechanisms undo fixes especially when it's been fixed 3x already using all avenues.
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Hi MikeTheWhistle,
Thanks for the post.
Can you provide both the image URL and your latest submission reference?
We can look into this for you.
Thank you in advance.
Thanks for the post.
Can you provide both the image URL and your latest submission reference?
We can look into this for you.
Thank you in advance.
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This is quick as the contribution history isn't loading right. The most
recent fix was via the contact form, but here is what I think is the
latest contribution history #s.
#190706-213054-786202
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0614863/mediaviewer/rm3602092545
It's "obvious" it doesn't belong to this ep because Veronica Redd isn't in and isn't credited in the other ep.
Another fix that got undone was, same image on two diff ep's. Got this fixed and it's now undone. The top link is the bad image. The image belongs to George's Dream. I submitted this via the contact form as well.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0614845/mediaviewer/rm3618869761
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072519/mediaviewer/rm2617417473
I'm guessing part of the problem is that there is only one image on both the bad titles so it's primary and thus keeps coming back, but they are on their face bad as well as having watched them so I know they're bad.
#190706-213054-786202
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0614863/mediaviewer/rm3602092545
It's "obvious" it doesn't belong to this ep because Veronica Redd isn't in and isn't credited in the other ep.
Another fix that got undone was, same image on two diff ep's. Got this fixed and it's now undone. The top link is the bad image. The image belongs to George's Dream. I submitted this via the contact form as well.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0614845/mediaviewer/rm3618869761
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072519/mediaviewer/rm2617417473
I'm guessing part of the problem is that there is only one image on both the bad titles so it's primary and thus keeps coming back, but they are on their face bad as well as having watched them so I know they're bad.
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MikeTheWhistle
As to why putting it here and praise, is because I've been trying to fix the Jeffersons' issue for quite awhile if you look at the link.
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/help-with-the-jeffersons-season-4-pics
And that is just one of many trying to fix an entire season of images that are on the wrong episode. One might think an imdb person would step up and help when the problem spans 25 episodes, but guess not.
bderoes, Champion
If we're talking about how to word the original better, so that covers both cases, maybe "Percy appears and is credited in episode 4.10, but does not appear and is not credited in episode 4.12." I'm not guaranteeing that would get a different result.
I don't see how other clean-up requests have any bearing on this one.
I don't see the need to refer to the GS post. Why would an editor need to read through all that to correct this one?
It's great that you're putting forth the effort to make IMDb cleaner/more accurate.
I would make the explanations as simple and self-contained as possible.
And use the Contact Form to ask for a re-evaluation of a declined contribution before posting to this forum. I can't say it always works, but I'd prefer to give the Help Desk a chance, and extend my "due process" before adding to the posts here.
MikeTheWhistle
I don't see any diff between your suggestion for what I put for the double move. We both mention actors name, that he's credited in the one and not the other. The one difference I see is using the word "appears" which does imply having watched the episode vs just trying to move it. As it happens I had seen those episodes so maybe that would have helped.
I had thought/misinterpreted that the decline page suggests coming here vs going to the help link. So I do appreciate your help on that as I had thought this was the place to come and I was wrong. (Edit: Not sure if I'm completely wrong, because clicking on the link in the denial does in fact take one to a page that then gives GS as the place to go. So not quite as clear as portrayed.)
I do wish though that someone from imdb would just fix the entire Jefferson's season 4 because this is such a monumental problem that it literally has sucked the life out of me.
Case in point.
So I guess the moral of the story is, that if you want to post bad images, do it first because nobody will be able to fix it. Although I know the person that did this was because they didn't realize that the first ep of the season is two episodes on imdb vs being one 60 minute ep. so I understand how the problem occurred, but it's fixing it that is the true problem until given a reason of "unable to verify" when it was obviously never verified in the first place.
So I don't know if the help desk has quotas or something that forces them to just click without actually trying to fix the problem in the first place. Forcing someone who is trying to be helpful to jump through extra hoops isn't the way to improve imdb data/info.
But that's my opinion, but I've seen it in many posts here so I don't think I'm alone.