Blatant Subjectivity Reappears in Keywords

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Years ago, IMDb was concerned about rejecting subjectivity in keywords.  Now, that problem  has reappeared.  Previously, keywords like beautiful-woman and pretty-girl were universally rejected and banned.  Now, subjective adjectives (and personal judgments) have returned.  These keywords should be rejected -- keywords like sexy-woman, and anything that begins with slutty-, sleazy-, bossy-, sneaky-, vulgar-, etc., etc., etc.

Subjectivity should have little or no place in keywords. 
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Posted 7 months ago

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Jeorj Euler

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I wonder if keywords like those are being added to works by the people who made them. What may be subjective to us may be objective in a fictional world. If the descriptions are explicitly used by a narrator, for example, perhaps they are legit and otherwise not legit. I don't know.
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Hi Bradley Kent,

It all depends on the context - if sexy-woman is used in the right context (relating to the character) that it can be a legitimate keyword e.g. "Woman in Red" in The Matrix. If the submitter is merely applying it as a blanket judgement to the actor/actress who is in the title then this is against the policy.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Will 
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The problem is:  Does the contributor know this context/policy?  I doubt it.  What is sexy to one person is repulsive to another.  These generalized value judgements reveal more about the contributor than they actually do about the content of the title.

P.S.  This was policy for years.  Why has it changed? 
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Hi Bradley Kent -

Thanks for your feedback, I will be sure to pass along your comments to our editorial team. In the meantime, please keep in mind that policies can change over time.  Concerning keywords, the main purpose of keywords is to allow users to easily search and discover titles.  If there is a descriptive character keyword that is relevant to the context of the film (as Will mentioned above) we would allow this type of keyword as it may help users discover new titles on the site.  I hope this helps clarify!
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No.  It doesn't help clarify.  Duh!  Certainly, things change overtime.  But there must be reasons and logic for such changes. The problem is the return of subjectivity and personal bias in keywords -- keywords that should be objective and "the facts."  The staff continually cites the statement, "the main purpose of keywords is to allow users to easily search and discover titles," but there are many other uses of keywords, too.  To me, keywords should reflect a title's content as objectively as possible.  That would be  the best way to use them for searches and other purposes.
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Hi Bradley Kent -

We appreciate your opinions and additional feedback.  As always, if you feel that a keyword is listed and doesn't properly meet our guidelines or the context of the film, you are welcome to submit a deletion request for our editors to review, however, if the keyword remains on the site this means that our editors determined the keyword to be valid and it will need to remain, otherwise, if they agree the keyword will be removed.
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This is repeated info that I have long known, and it is so general that it really does not address the specific concern.  But... thanks anyway.
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I know that feeling, Bradley Kent.
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Wow!  I just came across a title whose long list of keywords included these:  pretty-legs, shapely-legs, sexy-legs.  And IMDb will not take a stand against such subjectivity?  Unbelievable.
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A lot of these seem to be for Japanese titles.  Same contributor?