Bring back the old comments system

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My earlier suggestion to ask FB to allow IMDB users to log into its comments plugin (as quite a few people using IMDB don't have an FB account):
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

Was based on the assumption that we'd not get the old comments system back. However, I ran into a problem reporting abusive posts on a list's comments, because you need to be logged into FB to report abuse, which got me thinking:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

With new login and account creation options available through IMDB, there is a strong case for bringing the old comments system back.

Compare and contrast:

FB social media plugins allow you to use:
* FB - it also appears that you need an FB account to report a post, so even if they followed my suggestion and allowed people to use their IMDB login to post comments, you couldn't report abuse - a troll's paradise
* Yahoo
* AOL
* Hotmail

With the new accounts options you can get into IMDB using:
* IMDB
* FB
* Google
* Amazon - this is rather important, users of IMDB's parent company can't post comments on lists within IMDB without using another account (which they might not have). It'd be a tricky one to explain to the bosses.

All you'd need to do is add Twitter (and perhaps Open ID?) and you have all the big new media giants covered (which must account for as high a percentage of prospective users as anyone could ask for - people still excluded would be doing so willfully and presumably wouldn't be interested in signing up here anyway), while the FB plugin's other options are all pretty much old hat (terribly mid-naughties, dontchano - they might as well throw in MySpace too for the set), which underlines the problem with being beholden to FB for the logins, they seem to have gone out of their way to exclude the other new media giants because of disputes they've had with them:
http://www.insidefacebook.com/2011/03...

So what you would get with bringing comments back in-house is:

* Opening it up to more users
* Allowing proper abuse reporting

As the code is still there you don't even have to go to the trouble of creating this system - it was already there working properly.

So I genuinely can't see any good argument for keeping the FB comments (unless they are paying IMDB I suppose, but I doubt they'd do that) - it was an interesting experiment, but the old comments system beats the FB one on all counts.
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Posted 7 years ago

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I support this, since I will never use Facebook.
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Bill Goode

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I do have a FB account, but I'm considering closing it. In any case, IMDb needs to be kept separate from FB. They have different types of users. It's nice to come to IMDb and see film comments about the film, rather than the actor's politics. Leave that to to FB. I can't understand why IMDb would want to draw in all that abuse.

Keep IMDb separate from Facebook, by all means.
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you cant close your facebook account. ever. its always there. the only thing you could do is disable it, but its still there. its pure black evil, and you cant kill it.
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Bill Goode

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FB is far too political and IMDb is for entertainment, not to support political issues, or to expose one's feelings about movies to nosy government officials.
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I too don't have an Facebook account because i think Facebook is uselesss and I have problem commenting on users list but great point from @Bill Goode.
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You have my full support. Facebook, Twitter etc. is not for me. IMDB is, although since the recent deletion of 2 of my lists I may change my mind.

Keep up the good work Emperor.
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Thanks everyone, keep +1ing it.

Underlying this idea is that IMDB is A Big Deal in its own right (one of the largest, most visited sites on the Internet and a vital resource for millions), so by all means hook into other social media services to expand your reach but you also need to do what works best for your site, and using the FB comments isn't it. After all, as people can log into the site using FB then there is surely a way for people's comments to appear back in FB, so there are no advantages to their social media plugin.

Oh and I've added the suggestion to be able to login with Twitter and OpenID:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
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Here is a great reason for IMDb to keep comments internal and not use FB.

Facebook Is Hemorrhaging Users
http://www.crossingwallstreet.com/arc...
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Indeed, I was reading this in the paper the other day:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/...

As I'm sure I've said on here before: there is no point in hitching your wagon to the social media darling du jour, as they come and go according to the mysterious whims of the public, while IMDB will always be here. In a few years tying the comments into FB could look as misguided as it might using MySpace a few years earlier.

I'm not sure if is down to its partly British origins* but IMDB seems to downplay its importance and the influence it has. It, along with a few other sites (like Wikipedia and probably Google search) are the Big Dogs and permanent features in the online landscape - social media companies should be coming to them, not the other way around.

If they add a few more login options and a wider range of social media connectivity:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

Then IMDB can stay flexible, opening the site up to whatever the popular sites of the moment are and embedding the site within them. It might need a fully functional API and better plugins (the latter being something I plan a future suggestion on) to achieve fully but the recentish changes on this front are definitely in the right direction, it is just the new comments system that seems like a step backwards when FB users could now use the old system (as can those from Google and Amazon - so IMDB is actually more flexible than the current comments system, which seems plain weird).

* Being a Brit I can say this ;)
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All i can additionaly contribute to.

03/13
Find my comments in lists
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

04/13
Problems between sync of IMDb and Facebook accounts
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

04/13
Why have been all of my replys in my list deleted?
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

05/13
IMDb solved the "add to list" bug. Now Facebook has to be gone! And it will be perfect.
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
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I support this idea.
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Keep +1ing it if you agree.
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Alas, I'm only allowed one +1.
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And as we've had 7 people in the thread who like the idea (including me, naturally) it suggests we are running slightly below what we might expect ;)
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That was me. I have to get along. The star is now added x)
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Cheers ;)
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I was wondering why I couldn't comment to a list using my IMDB account; I guess this is why. I can comment to movie boards using my IMDB account but not lists? That's ridiculous. I do not want to link any other social media to IMDB. Does anyone read what a linked facebook or twitter account gives access to? Feeds, friends, tweets, comments...Ain't gonna happen. I used a throwaway email account just to make a comment here.
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https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
THEY R SPYING ON YOU
i had this same complaint, and emperor gave me the link here. i expected to see a whole lot of others complaining too, but this is not very mamy people at all. im going to assume some cant or dont want to comment because of the lame way you have to log in. if this is you create a fake google account like i did. it just takes a moment to create. you must let them know how you feel about it. what ever you do dont use a legit account. unless you enjoy your privacy invaded of course.
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The Get Satisfaction board is the cyber equivalent of the office suggestion box that is located in the basement at the bottom of the lift well.

Very few people will go to the trouble of making a suggestion, and management interprets that as "everything must be okay."
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imdb itself is a powerful website, they don't need to stick this way to social websites to be more popular..
whoever is a movies fan already has an account on imdb but you don't have to force them to use facebook to be able to comment!
if they simply just look at the results, they would easily realize the mistake they have made..
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Yes, imdb has yahoo or hotmail plugin, bit it doesn't work!
I can't post on lists... 
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u missed the point, who cares if it works or not.  the point is you have to log in using your yahoo or hotmail account instead of just using your imdb account that your already logged into.  so its good that it doesnt work for you.
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Beka Sukhitashvili

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Oh, yes... I have imdb account, but why i need other social networks... really stupid!
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I support the Idea, because leaving aside the personal opinions about FB and Google (we all know they are pure evil Mafia but that does not matter right now), the important thing is the right to keep things separated.
It is no-sense that people must be forced to have/create/use another external account if they already have the IMDb one. And it is just not fair to force people to link accounts.
I mistrust and tend to stop using any site that forces me to do so.
So, I will never comment on lists, for example.
And I will definitely limit my use of IMDb from now, till this will not be changed.
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I have an IMDB login and it has worked for me for over 13 years so why have you forsaken your own ID IMDB. Bring back the old system.  Out with the new in with the old.

I hate the "NSA" sponsored Facebook which basically takes one's private information and sells it to the highest bidder.  I do not have a Facebook account and will not get one to leave comments on your stories or lists.  I can't believe you force people into joining that fascist website in order to express our opinions.

I am sure IMDB will be one of the first websites to sponsor the new Facebook chip implants so they can take control of the human race.

Can you tell that I watch way too many movies, but please don't make us use Facebook and yes they are corporatocracy lapdogs. All hail Mark Zuckerberg.

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