Can I Add A New Title With 1090 Credits

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Simon: You can submit the new title, but I don't think you'll be able to submit all 1,090 credits at once in the initial submission.

Instead, I recommend submitting the title with a smaller number of credits (subject to the numerical limits on the new titles form).

Once the title is in the database, it is possible to make as many additional submissions as you need in order to add all of the remaining credits.

Or, if you want to add more than the usual numerical limit in a single submission, you can follow the procedure described at https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution-information/contributor-top-tips/G24YJU8YXNN...# under the heading "Titles: How to add more than the default number of data for all lists". But that method only works once the title is actually in the database already.

I hope this helps. Good luck!
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Hi! gromit82, Champion


IMDb should add a count for Titles ? ?
to compare with other titles - largest cast & crew ? ?

Writing Credits ( __ names)
Cast  ( __ names)
Art Department ( __ names)
Stunts ( __ names)
Animation Department  ( __ names)
Music Department  ( __ names)
Other crew  ( __ names)

Total _____

samples

Around the World in 80 Days  (1956) 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048960/fullcredits

The Ten Commandments  (1956) 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049833/fullcredits

How many people worked on these films ? ?
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Modern films like the Avengers etc probably have hundreds credits, but I guess there are some limitations of the IMDb system with certain occupations.
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Even well within the current limits, I've occasionally had issues where 'Check these updates' takes long enough for the page to time out and I've had to try again (it seems to take longer when there are a lot of warnings and/or name suggestions to generate). So it'd probably be best to split up any particularly large submissions even if the form did allow more.
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Correct. Best to split them. Easier to manage. Grouping them by Job description categories would be the smart way.
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Hi, Simon:

The update form is capable of bearing as many credits as you want...

...so, in theory, you should be able to allocate the complete cast & crew of a Marvel film in a single submission. For instance, the following two approved updates (one of them with newly added entries only) carry 870 and 427 credits respectively:



However, Phil has explained the big problem with extensive updates. As the form gets more complex (particularly when there are lots of warnings), after clicking , the more likely it is that some entries are not processed (red background because of timing out) or even that the page crashes completely, with a high risk of losing all your work. Refreshing the page (which resubmits info) often overcomes the problem provisionally, but:
   a) It is not 100% guaranteed;
   b) It usually generates a duplicate/unneeded "saved update" (which you can purge afterwards if you want to);
   c) Some of the fields affected by time-out are usually missing/blank and need to be entered again;
   d) Same with warnings that were corrected/acknowledged in previous stages; if caught by the time-out, they are active again which, as a side effect, increases the complexity of the update form even more, and its likelihood of not being fully processed.

Once you've encountered a time-out error, even if you address all of the warnings correctly, the system is making you aware of the need of not populating the form much further because it's reaching its processing limit. So, as both Phil and Ed have commented, it'd be advisable to create a second submission for the remaining credits.

Nevertheless, here's a second issue (to tech team). Since you can control the number of entries, avoiding timed-out errors is quite easy for additions (you decide whether 50 or 2,000 credits will be in the form). However, leaving additions aside, trying to do a complete audit for corrections (update=ttxxxxxxxx:cast.correct.all/crew.correct.all) can be hard without splitting up by some categories, and even doing so, some titles nowadays have a lot of credits within a same department (as I'll show below) and if you have to make corrections to many of them the error risk increases greatly (e.g. in most of the 319 visual effects credits of my Resident Evil: Retribution update, the original contributor had forgotten to add the Company Name [which is listed on screen as a heading] to the occupation). Yes, I could split up the credits in that department even further (say one tab for A-L, another for M-Z), but it's cumbersome and nothing assures you that entries are not partly responsible for the system overload. Perhaps the time for timeout (I don't know what the proper term is... ) should be extended...

Finally, as Eboy stated, some titles on the database have hundreds thousands of credits. Would you like to know which one holds the record? Taking advantage of this post, I'll try to answer that question (and pay part of an old debt) hereunder.

I understand that the following listings are boring, probably unneeded, and likely unuseful, but if only one person were wondering which film, according to , has the largest visual effects crew*, then they'd be worthy of being published and, AFAIK this is the only place where this info will be available at the moment

*no, it's not Avengers: Endgame...
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Well, I see... if no 6 hours of free time, it's better not scroll down ;)))
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ljdoncel, interesting! Is this became possible recently? Because in all cases when I added titles I had to use additional submissions to have all the special thanks added... 
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Hi, Nikolay:
Is this became possible recently?
No, tweaking the URL to get more slots in the update form has been a tip in use for many years...
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ljdoncel, thanks for sharing the tip. That makes it so much easier to add the credits from the get go...
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(Data as of 10 May 2019) ~ Sorry for being 2 weeks late; I was busy and couldn't write this until today.

SUMMARY:

TOTAL: 123,596,409 credits ~ 3,534,899 of them uncredited (2.86%) / 8,806,709 names

      CAST: 45,191,645 credits ~ 1,188,251 of them uncredited (2.63%) / 4,672,067 names
                 Actor: 20,644,254 credits ~ 746,378 uncred (3.6%) / 2,292,939 names
                 Actress: 13,793,128 credits ~ 279,191 uncred (2.0%) / 1,337,828 names
                 Self: 10,037,184 credits ~ 83,361 uncred (0.8%) / 1,369,847 names
                 Archive footage: 717,079 credits ~ 79,321 uncred (11.1%) / 142,178 names

      CREW: 76,823,280 credits ~ 2,067,080 of them uncredited (2.69%) / 5,055,148 names
                 Animation department: 1,917,773 credits ~ 36,300 uncred (1.9%) / 161,156 names
                 Archive sound: 2 credits / 2 names
                 Art department: 3,609,958 credits ~ 202,213 uncred (5.6%) / 363,623 names
                 Art director: 683,389 credits ~ 4,864 uncred (0.7%) / 89,087 names
                 Assistant director: 1,982,165 credits ~ 40,544 uncred (2.0%) / 245,507 names
                 Camera department: 6,658,672 credits ~ 240,389 uncred (3.6%) / 643,544 names
                 Casting department: 709,968 credits ~ 42,478 uncred (6.0%) / 53,531 names
                 Casting director: 618,989 credits ~ 5,055 uncred (0.8%) / 37,455 names
                 Cinematographer: 2,120,573 credits ~ 4,072 uncred (0.2%) / 337,513 names
                 Composer: 1,749,227 credits ~ 14,629 uncred (0.8%) / 254,192 names
                 Costume department: 1,350,555 credits ~ 66,408 uncred (4.9%) / 123,053 names
                 Costume designer: 683,856 credits ~ 5,050 uncred (0.7%) / 67,441 names
                 Director: 4,399,375 credits ~ 14,322 uncred (0.3%) / 569,036 names
                 Editor: 2,813,766 credits ~ 8,443 uncred (0.3%) / 379,093 names
                 Editorial department: 2,423,116 credits ~ 81,078 uncred (3.3%) / 172,623 names
                 Electrical department: 4 credits / 3 names
                 Location management: 596,239 credits ~ 36,031 uncred (6.0%) / 74,198 names
                 Make up department: 2,209,423 credits ~ 65,367 uncred (3.0%) / 174,478 names
                 Miscellaneous department: 9,616,484 credits ~ 364,341 uncred (3.8%) / 1,158,335 names
                 Music department: 2,465,881 credits ~ 160,461 uncred (6.5%) / 194,730 names
                 Producer: 10,049,683 credits ~ 44,225 uncred (0.4%) / 997,260 names
                 Production department: 26 credits / 13 names
                 Production designer: 718,560 credits ~ 1,178 uncred (0.2%) / 89,016 names
                 Production manager: 1,900,352 credits ~ 21,197 uncred (1.1%) / 193,861 names
                 Script department: 1 credit / 1 name
                 Set decorator: 479,144 credits ~ 2,270 uncred (0.5%) / 62,090 names
                 Sound department: 5,031,953 credits ~ 183,886 uncred (3.7%) / 361,421 names
                 Special effects deparment: 482,508 credits ~ 31,019 uncred (6.4%) / 66,135 names
                 Stunts: 952,966 credits ~ 120,905 uncred (12.7%) / 76,480 names
                 Thanks: 1,035,539 credits ~ 186 uncred (0,02%) / 609,591 names
                 Transportation department: 509,645 credits ~ 43,303 uncred (8.5%) / 78,703 names
                 Visual effects department: 2,001,010 credits ~ 160,995 uncred (8.0%) / 191,909 names
                 Writer: 7,052,478 credits ~ 65,241 uncred (0.9%) / 723,464 names

      SOUNDTRACK: 1,581,484 credits ~ 279,568 of them uncredited (17.68%) / 144,363 names

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All this statistics is possible to calc only after participating the Tomatina each year  to be enough energized...
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What a world! There are 5 times more producers than all the people serving all the music departments 8/
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Hahaha, I've visited Valencia many times, but unfortunately I've never been to the Tomatina yet... It's in my to-do list...
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It sounds alike "I was in Rio many times but don't salsa"
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(I had written all the titles with hyperlinks, but GetSatisfaction is unable to manage so many icons and text, so I had to take some screenshots... )


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