Capitalized occupations

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Policy is clear that occupations should always be listed in lowercase only (except specific cases where names of people, places or companies are included).

There have always been a small handful of badly formatted listings that have slipped past the editors, but recently there have been a lot of incorrectly capitalized occupations added, and the number is growing rapidly.

For example, there are currently:
  • 9,663 listings for 'Writer' in the writer department (spread across 8,538 titles and 3,145 name pages)
  • 6,694 'Lighting Designer' in the camera department (6,668 titles / 63 names)
  • 4,873 'Lighting Director' in the camera department (4,834 titles / 107 names)
  • 3,876 'Stage Manager' in the assistant director department (3,857 titles / 22 names)
  • 3,661 'Stage Manager' in miscellaneous (3,436 titles / 105 names)
  • 3,524 'Technical Director' in miscellaneous (3,498 titles / 113 names)
  • 3,381 'Production Assistant' in miscellaneous (2,880 titles / 767 names)
  • 3,359 'Sound Designer' in the sound department (3,167 titles / 1,226 names)
  • 3,245 'Senior Producer' in the producer department (2,999 titles / 244 names)
  • 3,197 'Segment Producer' in the producer department (2,962 titles / 250 names)
  • 3,095 'Production Coordinator' in miscellaneous (2,947 titles / 599 names)
  • 3,059 'Post Production Supervisor' in the editorial department (3,013 titles / 318 names)
  • 2,973 'Sound designer' in the sound department (2,950 titles / 257 names)
  • 2,926 'Executive Producer' in miscellaneous (2,890 titles / 96 names)
  • 2,879 'Planner make-up department' in the makeup department (2,879 titles / 3 names)
  • 2,846 'Story Producer' in the producer department (2,529 titles and 410 names)
  • 2,507 'Executive in Charge of Production' in the producer department (2,505 titles / 53 names)
  • 2,470 'Action Director' in the stunts department (2,437 titles / 54 names)
  • 2,457 'Assistant Production Coordinator' in miscellaneous (2,382 titles / 408 names)
  • 2,426 'Additional Music' in the music department (2,271 titles / 312 names)
...and many more. I estimate that there are at least 300,000 of these listings with capitalized occupations that do not comply with policy (and it could quite possibly be double that number, my count isn't accurate).

This really needs to be fixed sooner rather than later, because the longer it's allowed to continue, the more rapidly the problem will grow. When an inexperienced contributor comes across these incorrect listings, they may well assume that it's fine since there are so many of them, so they'll go on to add more. Although the submission form will generate a warning about capitals if a new job title is being added, there's no warning when re-using an existing occupation, so contributors often get no hint that it goes against policy.

A bored contributor could easily get onto the end-year top-250 list just by fixing these, but it would be far easier for staff to correct them in bulk (although care needs to be taken since there are cases where capitals are valid). And as many of these have been added recently, it may be worthwhile for staff to also investigate how and why so many invalid listings are being accepted into the database.


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Yes, and addition to that, there are many missplelled occupations. I haven’t got any official info, but based on some older threads I assume that IMDb simply lacks time, resources and manpower to correct them all.
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Unfortunately, it's much harder to identify spelling and other errors without manually going through the whole list, but thankfully they don't seem to exist in the same numbers.
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Doesn't this policy conflict with the policy that credits should be entered as shown on screen?
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There are numerous exceptions to the as-seen-on-screen rule, this is just one of them (a few more are listed here as well, but that's not the complete list). Much of the submission guides are dedicated to covering the exceptions (the misc crew guide in particular lists many things that should be changed from what's seen on screen).

Maybe it's just a result of the sorts of titles I generally work on, but I consider it to be quite rare to come across a credit where the as-seen-on-screen rule actually does apply.

Also, applying capitalization as-seen-on-screen would likely end up with 80% of all listings in ALL CAPS!
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Occupations are always listed listed in lowercase. They’re also always listed ”in English”, regardless of the language in the actual credits.
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Hi Phil, thanks for flagging! I've filed a ticket with the appropriate team to look in to this. 
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Hi, Phil:
I estimate that there are at least 300,000 of these listings with capitalized occupations that do not comply with policy (and it could quite possibly be double that number [...]
You're correct... the number of entries of that need to be corrected because of a wrong capitalization is close to 700,000!

As of 10 Nov 2019 there are 83,492,327 CREW CREDITS on , belonging to 5,265,231 NAMES, which take up 277,713 OCCUPATIONS ("occupation" is defined as "everything before a first colon, if any"; i.e. gaffer, gaffer: second unit and gaffer: Toronto count all of them as gaffer). 37,416 of them have more than one capitalization of a very same spelling, so, for each of those occupations, all the variations but one (at the very least) are incorrect.

For instance, there are 489,521 listings for re-recording mixer, but there's also Re-Recording Mixer (812 entries), Re-recording Mixer (223), Re-recording mixer (31), re-recording Mixer (2) and Re-Recording mixer (1); all these 6 occupations share a same "letter pattern" (re-recording mixer) which per rules happens to be the correct capitalization in this case.
  • OCCUPATIONS: 277,713
         With unique capitalization: 240,297 occupations (240,297 letter patterns)
         With 2 capitalizations of a same spelling: 26,722 occupations (13,361 letter patterns)
         With 3 capitalizations of a same spelling: 7,731 occupations (2,577 letter patterns)
         With 4 capitalizations of a same spelling: 2,136 occupations (534 letter patterns)
         With 5 capitalizations of a same spelling: 505 occupations (101 letter patterns)
         With 6 capitalizations of a same spelling: 216 occupations (36 letter patterns)
         With 7 capitalizations of a same spelling: 56 occupations (8 letter patterns)
         With 8 capitalizations of a same spelling: 32 occupations (4 letter patterns)
         With 9 capitalizations of a same spelling: 18 occupations (2 letter patterns)

    Trivia fun fact: Besides executive in charge of production (see below), the other letter pattern that have 9 different capitalizations is movi operator (movi operator, Movi operator, Movi Operator, MoVi operator, MoVI Operator, MoVI operator, MOVI operator, MoVi Operator, moVI operator).
Assuming as incorrect the less frequent capitalization(s) of a letter pattern (which is true most of the time) there'll be near 650,000 entries that should be "merged" into its correct basic usually-lowercase form. I don't expect staff to go through the whole list of 16,623 letter patterns with multiple capitalizations and consolidate them one by one, let alone scrutinize the occupations with a single spelling (where about 25,000 additional entries could also have been capitalized wrong).

However, as a first quick attempt to fix the problem, I hope that the "appropriate team" referenced by Elizabeth would take into consideration that almost 250,000 credits (more than 35% of all the incorrect-spelled entries) depend exclusively on just the following 100 patterns, which I believe is a relatively small/accesible number to be worth spending some time and consolidate.
  • steadicam operator: Steadicam operator [14,682], Steadicam Operator [2,264], steadicam Operator [29], steadIcam operator [16], SteadiCam operator [2]
  • writer: Writer [9,983]
  • stage manager: Stage Manager [7,546], Stage manager [17]
  • 3d artist: 3D artist [6,552], 3D Artist [432], 3d Artist [43]
  • lighting designer: Lighting Designer [6,707], Lighting designer [207]
  • sound designer: Sound Designer [3,447], Sound designer [3,008]
  • production assistant: Production Assistant [5,702], Production assistant [456], production Assistant [4]
  • technical director: Technical Director [4,837], Technical director [191], technical Director [4]
  • lighting director: Lighting Director [4,881], Lighting director [56], lighting Director [3]
  • executive in charge of production: Executive in Charge of Production [3,319], Executive In Charge of Production [1,508], Executive in charge of production [36], Executive in charge of Production [32], Executive In Charge Of Production [16], Executive in Charge Of Production [4], executive in Charge of Production [4], executive In charge of production [1]
  • stunt double: Stunt Double [3,677], Stunt double [806], stunt Double [27]
  • post production supervisor: Post Production Supervisor [3,829], Post production supervisor [235], Post production Supervisor [3], Post Production supervisor [1]
  • production coordinator: Production Coordinator [3,716], Production coordinator [256], production Coordinator [3], PRODUCTION COORDINATOR [2]
  • creative director: Creative Director [3,512], creative Director [353], Creative director [5]
  • executive producer: Executive Producer [3,764], executive Producer [26], Executive producer [19]
  • segment producer: Segment Producer [3,456]
  • senior producer: Senior Producer [3,324], Senior producer [34], senior Producer [10]
  • story producer: Story Producer [3,133], Story producer [72], story Producer [30]
  • coordinating producer: Coordinating Producer [2,948], coordinating Producer [22], Coordinating producer [5]
  • additional music: Additional Music [2,523], Additional music [354], additional Music [4]
  • cg supervisor: CG supervisor [1,701], CG Supervisor [1,124], Cg Supervisor [24], cg Supervisor [11], CG SUPERVISOR [1]
  • assistant production coordinator: Assistant Production Coordinator [2,552], Assistant production coordinator [83], assistant production Coordinator [10], assistant Production Coordinator [8], Assistant Production coordinator [4]
  • digital imaging technician: Digital Imaging Technician [2,390], Digital imaging technician [182], digital Imaging technician [14], Digital Imaging technician [9], Digital imaging Technician [5]
  • head of production: Head of Production [2,461], Head Of Production [123], Head of production [16]
  • payroll accountant: Payroll Accountant [2,421], Payroll accountant [102]
  • action director: Action Director [2,505]
  • a2: A2 [2,495]
  • dit: DIT [2,277], Dit [195]
  • cg artist: CG artist [2,217], CG Artist [237], Cg Artist [3]
  • composer: Composer [2,432], COMPOSER [1]
  • production accountant: Production Accountant [2,237], Production accountant [90], PRODUCTION ACCOUNTANT [1]
  • post producer: Post Producer [2,113], Post producer [150], post Producer [2]
  • director of photography: Director of Photography [1,363], Director of photography [716], Director Of Photography [101], director of Photography [36], DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY [8]
  • script coordinator: Script Coordinator [2,167]
  • author: Author [2,141]
  • written by: Written by [1,594], Written By [486], written By [5]
  • art department coordinator: Art Department Coordinator [1,891], Art department coordinator [143], Art department Coordinator [21], Art Department coordinator [13], art Department coordinator [4], art Department Coordinator [3]
  • production manager: Production Manager [1,672], Production manager [400], production Manager [1]
  • compositor: Compositor [2,069]
  • art department assistant: Art Department Assistant [1,875], Art department assistant [128], Art Department assistant [40], Art department Assistant [9]
  • talent producer: Talent Producer [2,004], talent Producer [9], Talent producer [5]
  • social media producer: Social Media Producer [2,007]
  • office production assistant: Office Production Assistant [1,948], Office production assistant [9]
  • best boy electric: Best Boy Electric [1,468], Best boy electric [393], Best boy Electric [24]
  • production executive: Production Executive [1,865], Production executive [1]
  • rigging grip: Rigging Grip [1,331], Rigging grip [506], rigging Grip [2]
  • script consultant: Script Consultant [1,713], Script consultant [116], script Consultant [3]
  • stand-in: Stand-in [1,125], Stand-In [623], stand-In [21]
  • adr mixer: ADR Mixer [984], ADR mixer [671], Adr Mixer [80], adr Mixer [5], Adr mixer [2]
  • story editor: Story Editor [1,717], Story editor [6], story Editor [6]
  • wardrobe master: Wardrobe Master [1,707], Wardrobe master [1]
  • creative head: Creative Head [1,680], creative Head [13], Creative head [11]
  • associate producer: Associate Producer [1,659], Associate producer [9], associate Producer [7]
  • script supervisor: Script Supervisor [1,587], Script supervisor [76], script Supervisor [1]
  • showrunner: Showrunner [1,653]
  • camera trainee: Camera Trainee [1,358], Camera trainee [289], CAMERA TRAINEE [2]
  • production sound mixer: Production Sound Mixer [1,401], Production sound mixer [230], Production Sound mixer [12], Production sound Mixer [6]
  • production supervisor: Production Supervisor [1,392], Production supervisor [230]
  • writers' assistant: Writers' Assistant [1,607]
  • best boy grip: Best Boy Grip [1,372], Best boy grip [178], best boy Grip [23], Best boy Grip [11], BEST BOY GRIP [2]
  • production legal: Production Legal [1,554], Production legal [25], production Legal [2]
  • 3d animator: 3d animator [1,445], 3D Animator [135]
  • leadman: Leadman [1,569]
  • publicist: Publicist [1,557]
  • assistant director: Assistant Director [1,468], Assistant director [78], assistant Director [6]
  • production associate: Production Associate [1,534], Production associate [1]
  • sound supervisor: Sound Supervisor [1,425], Sound supervisor [91]
  • it support: IT support [1,199], IT Support [308]
  • creative producer: Creative Producer [1,201], Creative producer [294]
  • editor: Editor [1,479]
  • b camera operator: B Camera Operator [893], B camera operator [540], B Camera operator [20], B camera Operator [13], b camera Operator [5], b Camera Operator [1]
  • set production assistant: Set Production Assistant [1,266], Set production assistant [150], Set Production assistant [3], Set production Assistant [1]
  • lighting artist: Lighting Artist [1,243], Lighting artist [157], lighting Artist [16]
  • 1st assistant accountant: 1st Assistant Accountant [1,378], 1st Assistant accountant [6]
  • teleprompter: Teleprompter [1,371]
  • digital producer: Digital Producer [1,364]
  • set medic: Set Medic [1,102], Set medic [251]
  • teleprompter operator: Teleprompter Operator [1,347]
  • producer: Producer [1,329]
  • drone operator: Drone Operator [1,047], Drone operator [266], drone Operator [2]
  • 2nd assistant accountant: 2nd Assistant Accountant [1,302], 2ND Assistant Accountant [7], 2nd Assistant accountant [3]
  • adr recordist: ADR recordist [697], ADR Recordist [590], Adr recordist [9], Adr Recordist [2]
  • accounting clerk: Accounting Clerk [1,237], Accounting clerk [36]
  • clearance coordinator: Clearance Coordinator [1,229], Clearance coordinator [27]
  • screenplay: Screenplay [1,243]
  • key production assistant: Key Production Assistant [1,137], Key production assistant [46], KEY Production Assistant [13], Key Production assistant [4], key Production Assistant [2], key production Assistant [1]
  • supervising sound editor: Supervising Sound Editor [1,181], Supervising sound editor [19], Supervising Sound editor [1]
  • 2d artist: 2D artist [1,138], 2D Artist [52]
  • audience coordinator: Audience Coordinator [1,069], Audience coordinator [114]
  • on set dresser: On Set Dresser [918], On set dresser [255], On set Dresser [7]
  • dolly grip: Dolly Grip [866], Dolly grip [283], dolly Grip [13]
  • director: Director [1,127]
  • scenic artist: Scenic Artist [641], Scenic artist [476]
  • set decoration buyer: Set Decoration Buyer [1,011], Set decoration buyer [60], Set Decoration buyer [35]
  • intern: Intern [1,103]
  • rigging gaffer: Rigging Gaffer [816], Rigging gaffer [284]
  • line producer: Line Producer [1,026], Line producer [63], line Producer [2]
  • camera utility: Camera Utility [565], Camera utility [525]
  • talent coordinator: Talent Coordinator [1,073], Talent coordinator [12]
  • assistant producer: Assistant Producer [895], assistant Producer [145], Assistant producer [44]

Cheers!

(P.S. Can anybody determine the role of Brian Leonard in Horneytown, U.S.A.? )
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Splendid work as always ljdoncel. I sure hope a staffer will start some work on this.