Character Role Formatting through contract or call sheet

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Dear imdb staff, I have an uncredited role in Criminal Minds https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1713134/

My credit is Man on sidewalk. Yet i have a documentation provided by the company, where is shows they granted me the name Carlos, i have on pdf. sent by them.

If i present it, will it suffice to simply correct the name and keep it uncredited?

please respond
thnks


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Hi, MC.

Please don't consider my word as an "aye" or "nay" vote for your main idea. 
I'm just trying to express more behind the scene of this process.

IMDb exists not only for cast and crew members; it is for viewers initially. When a cast or crew member is not credited (no name printed in the titles sequence), he/she is welcomed to be included into the base as "uncredited". 

For crew members the docs you are referring to are self-explaining. When adding an uncredited cast member, their roles must be explained in the most obvious way to let the viewers know which person is meant. If taking your current example, a viewer (contributor) may spend a lot of time for nothing then searching for a "Carlos" -- whether it is imprinted on his T-shirt, or someone calls him Carlos in a scene, or else... To avoid such problems, there is an IMDb practice to use objective descriptions, such as "Man on sidewalk" -- the man is much easier to recognize this way.

In view of all the above, I think that IMDb could inherit the names out of contracts or call-sheets, but in such case the documents should be attached to the titles in the base. Logically speaking, such approach would be much complicated for the base maintainers as well as for users.

Thank you for understanding.
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Thank you.

Again have letter pdf from production company
Contract signed with them
Everything sent by them
Which will divulge sensitive old information about me but if it’s necessary so be it

Whatever suffices to prove I’m truthful honest person
IMDb thinks I’m a liar clearly and or I’m playing games br>I’m not, never been. Only showing can prove that.

Again not trying to be complicated
Just show everything everyone to see I’m honest and telling the truth.
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The issue is not the info you have for verification.
The issue is format policy and rules guidelines.
This is all they will explain.
A yes or no, determining if you can or can't change it.
Be patient and wait.
You are restating things you have already said at the top.
Please don't reply.
Ongoing dialog delays the response by staff.
Lets all not type a thing and wait for IMDb please.

Thanks

Ed

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Come to think of it, there could be an issue with "Self" credits in fictional material.
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Well I guess he did reply. Since he commented lol, can I post my contract and letter here from the company?
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No employee has replied. Wait. Be patient. Don't clutter the post with unasked for info at this time.
Remember every reply means ongoing dialog.
Ongoing dialog = delay in Employee responding. It may be 24 hours from now before an employee replies.

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Did you try to edit the page? I just went in and submitted and edit to change your character name to "Carlos". Since you did not have an onscreen credit, there is no conflict with what was show on screen.

If your name was never used in the episode, it would have been impossible for a contributor to know that your character was named "Carlos" and they went with a description instead.
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I'm not sure that I've ever used that help and it seems a lot of times that the help on the submission guide is outdated. If that is the rule for uncredited characters, then the vast majority of uncredited characters on TV shows are listed wrong. :D
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If I was a fan of Mannie and I wanted to find him in that episode and I watched intently waiting for a character to say the name Carlos to another character and never heard the name spoken I would be scratching my head saying to myself, "he was never in this episode." That fan may now submit a deletion based on that alone! But if he was just listed as "Man on sidewalk', that would signify he was not spoken to. So his part is small enough that I (Hypothetical fan) will look for his face instead, in any sidewalk scenes. Viola! I see him! I'm happy that I saw my favorite actor because IMDb had listed him the best way possible to high-lite (Identify) that actors contribution.
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I can go either way on this. "Man on sidewalk" probably isn't unique enough to identify someone without more help. That's just my opinion. I rarely delete uncredited people unless they are credited with something like "Wedding Guest" in an episode/movie without a wedding.
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This episode was about a sniper shooting people on the streets.
Undoubtedly Mannie was one of 50 or so uncredited that had the same assignment. He is one of the 4 out of the 50. I'd wan't to be found and seen. Carlos does not do it.
Man on sidewalk clearly does.
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Mr Ed please don’t do anything else lol
Adrian just made me feel so happy thank you
Ed this is what I mean Adrian went to the extent of making this small action for me and made me feel so happy
I’m thrilled
Gave me a huge smile
Thank you thank you thank you
I can go back to work now
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So, it was just that easy to change.


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Gentleman, is there any way to ask imdb to close this thread?

or make it solved?

since with the most gracious heart it was solved.
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 ljdoncel, Champion to make it clear for you. thank you Sir, i said something less vague yet i do have documentation to prove it, always had.

I have it proved, maybe what i said came across as if i just wanted to change for the sake of image and look...which is beyond superficial indeed it is but documentation to support it i have it or else i wouldnt be here wasting your precious time

while u could be helping hundreds of other people with other very important matters
i never play with people and gamble, im a man of truth and yes im here becsuse i have those docs like i always do.

So yes as Adrian and myself said i have documentation to prove this.

And im deeply grateful he fixed it for me

thank you

So now we may close this thread or ask imdb to have it solved.
so you may direct your attentions to many other people who need your help and guidance.
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Mannie
Glad you got what you wanted.
I doubt anyone here will correct the mistake made.
But don't be surprised that someday that credit gets altered.
Like I said, No One Here will probably change it.
I would ask you to please in the future be a little nicer to people that have never given up on trying to help you.
Your treatment of the people on this whole matter has been less than exemplary.
You have been very nice on this post.
But the others!!!!
Please be kinder.
Thanks
Cheers
Ed
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Dear Mr Ed,

I believe previously i have apologies for my initial approach 3 times havent i? i did :) plus i have apologised for that over and over and accepted what i have done....

maybe you missed reading that in that case, for eht 4th time i deeply am sorry for the way i initiated it, you are completely right, we all make mistakes, no one is perfect, we are a bag of bones and blood that somehow functions in a miraculous way, we learn every day, we all makes mistakes don't we?

im certain you yourself have done so and apologized, well i will gladly admit i did and apologized and learned not to do it again.

Listen as far as im aware, from the 2nd portion of the other thread i have been nothing but nice and diplomatic and trying to reason. this post was created given your indications so im following lead and learning like we all do everyday.

Mr ED, on the other posts, in the beginning yes i wasnt that diplomatic and i ADMIT, i was very frustrated and annoyed, im human, i make mistakes, are we perfect? no we are not but we learn and yes when people are frustrated they type differently.

I'm always very nice, i work in public relations for USC, costumer service with HUNDREDS of international sudents.

So im known to be loving and kind always.

I can only hope no one here changes it and leaves it alone,
i would be immensel gratefull.

To all i bid you Sirs gooday, thank you very much
and thank you

Anyways Mr Ed i will leave you in peace and wont be disturbing you any time soon.
Again i could give you 15 people to talk to who would vouch for me, my professionalism and my persona and reason why i work with internationals, im wonderful to all.
cheers to all
Mr Adrian bless your soul for being a champion of help
you really made me happy. Thank you so much
i wish i could pay you back in some way really do.
cheers take care everyone
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Thanks.
Maybe we will run into each other.
I'm in the L.A. Area looking for voice over work.
Cheers
Ed
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Break a leg :)
I did voice over for a video game last year
Nimbus só hope you get some work soon cheers best to you
To Adrian and ljoncel
Cheers boys :))
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