Contribution #200206-152202-924000

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I resubmitted the contribution for the Birth Date of Dean-Charles Chapman with more evidence...
I got declined again.
I made sure to exclude Wikipedia, Wikimedia etc. and Google from my evidence.
I admit that my evidence just linked with no context (each time that I don<t write a context I'm getting declined).
But, I had a link to Dean-Charles Chapman is Apple TV page (which is maybe my most trustworthy link): https://tv.apple.com/gd/person/dean-charles-chapman/umc.cpc.17wh1bowt332p5kl7yete02hg.

 
I understand if the Data Manager didn't want to go through all the links since even my self has difficulty to know which one is which one. But, I don't know if this was the reason for the decline.

I have a Total LifeTime of 2500+ now, I thought that it would be easier to add factual data.

Thank you in advance,

cinephile
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cinephile

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Jon Tomlinson

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If you don't mind some contributing advice to help you out in what I hope is a continued long journey of contributing for you.
I personally only noticed an ease in contributing once, I had an high approval rate, over 50,000+ Total lifetime and a Top Contributor badge but that by no means meant I could take it easy on providing good evidence or never had to fight my corner every now and then but its a good thing to aim for.
Easily provable, screenshotted stuff is a great way to build up your credibility & approval rates. Pick your battles wisely.
A brief written explanation with a solid link or two will always beat a dozen random links, a lot of information online is auto generated from other sources, I've seen info & images I've added to IMDB ported to a dozen other sites exactly. This is why the Apple link you posted, is probably no good, it's all imported word for word from Wikipedia. So it may look like 10 sites all corroborate his date of birth conclusively but they may have just all imported it from his Wiki page.
Anyway I hope this post is of some use to you.
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Anyway, I give up, they will ad his Birth Date when they want, because I provide all the non-Wikipedia or Google on the first page my research results. I think that this is just the kind of info that is impossible to add, and will get you a declined each time you try.
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Hi Cinephile, the apple TV link you provided was not sufficient evidence, we aren't just looking for not wikipedia or google; please review our help site for further information. 
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Then I want to know how this was approved: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0515385/
Titus Livius from 59 to 17 live (-42 years.)

 I want to know where is social medial profile and his birth record.

He lived from -59 to 17 (42 years) not -42 years
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https://www.livius.org/articles/perso... is probably a good enough source for Titus Livius as it says where the dates come from and seems to be based on real research rather than just looking things up on the internet.

The birth date needs to be corrected to 59BCE but the help page for that also needs fixing. It says "We do hold some BC/BCE birth and death dates, but at the moment it's not possible to add this type of data through our submissions system. If you have data like this that you wish to add, please contact us using the form below and we'll be glad to help." but there is no form below that I could see.

The important point about the supporting evidence is provenance. One source that can be traced to the best existing records is better than any number of repetitions of data without an origin.
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Everybody seems to think that the birth information is free, it would cost 11 euros to have Dean-Charles Chapman his official birth record. Free sites are only recording old data, when I do an advanced search the first result that I get is this topic, He didn't list his birth date on Instagram.

Anyway, to list the birth date and marriage date, I'm out of idea even if the info is correct, it is super hard to prove it, if someone has a pragmatic technic, pls let me know.

PS: I would prefer the use of the -59" to "59 BC" "59 AD or since BC means "Before Christ" (not everyone believes in Christ), and AD means "Anno Domini" which means"In the year of our Lord" (Same reason). Plus, the use of the form "-59" facilitates the mathematics calculations of age.
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Plus, the use of the form "-59" facilitates the mathematics calculations of age.
Personally, I think it's likely to lead to more confusion... there is no year zero BCE/AD. For mathematic calculations to 'work', "59 BCE" would have to be 'translated' to "-58", not "-59".

He lived from -59 to 17 (42 years) not -42 years
Shouldn't that be 74 or 75 years (depending on the months), not 42 years?
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I think you are right this is the worst, 
Math Calculations: 17- -59 = 76
Answer: He lived 76 or 75 years

Google tells me that he lived 75 years his IMDb page is even more inaccurate then I thought, thank you for noticing that.