Contributor contact

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Hi,

A contributor is adding summaries in English for French films just being released. I do not doubt that his intentions are good, but the result in English is truely appalling and even makes me somewhat ashamed...
Moreover, he is litterally "translating" the summaries from a major French movie portal.

I wish I could contact him to let him know about reliable translation websites, or even giving him a hand to do so (I do not pretend to be bilingual but I surely can help to improve!)

Can a IMDb staffer help me to contact him, even by forwarding him a message? I do not wish to disclose his signature on the forum but I can of course provide it.

Thanks in advance.

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Vincent Fournols

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Posted 10 months ago

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Hello Vincent, 
Where did you see this terrible thing? 
 
    Steve

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Vincent Fournols

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The one that triggered my message : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6665904/reference

In some excerpts, even I could not figure out the French original text behind the translation...
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Thanks Vincent, We can’t tell where you’ve come from to get here. We can only see what’s been put in the ticket. Steve
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Holy Cow Batman!!
Hugo's prose leaves much to be despaired! Badly very done. English lessons needs He!!
Any one should be able to use Google translation.
This is Star Wars IV
Les forces impériales, sous les ordres de Dark Vador, tiennent la Princesse Leia en otage dans leurs efforts pour réprimer la rébellion contre l'Empire Galactique. Luke Skywalker et Han Solo, capitaine du Millennium Falcon, collaborent avec le célèbre duo de droïdes R2-D2 et C-3PO pour sauver la belle princesse, aider l’Alliance rebelle et rétablir la liberté et la justice dans la galaxie.

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Now I took that same translation back to English.
Translation:
The Imperial forces, under the command of Darth Vader, hold Princess Leia hostage in their efforts to suppress the rebellion against the Galactic Empire. Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, captain of the Millennium Falcon, work with the famous droid duo R2-D2 and C-3PO to save the beautiful princess, help the Rebel Alliance and restore freedom and justice in the galaxy.

The Original:
The Imperial Forces, under orders from cruel Darth Vader, hold Princess Leia hostage in their efforts to quell the rebellion against the Galactic Empire. Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, captain of the Millennium Falcon, work together with the companionable droid duo R2-D2 and C-3PO to rescue the beautiful princess, help the Rebel Alliance and restore freedom and justice to the Galaxy.

Very close. I Don't understand how his can be so bad. Unless his command of French is lacking.
The bad part IS how many he has done. Poor guy. He probably put in a lot of effort.
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Vince, I have re written (Clarified) poorly worded trivia and Biographies. They have been accepted for the most part. I don't do it often though. I have never come across a contributor with that much work that needs that much attention. They may not give you what you want. But that does not stop you from the daunting task of "Polishing" his works. My work can be said to be a little simplistic. But if I ran across plots like that I would attempt a few just to see if they would be accepted. Then I would probably do the rest, if the initial work went "Live".
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Hi Vincent -

As per our privacy policy, we cannot disclose any contributor information to you or get you in touch with a specific user; I would encourage you to continue submitting applicable corrections/deletions for badly formatted/translated/ineligible Plot Summaries through our Update form as you see them.

I have also passed along your suggestion to reach out to the user specifically for further guidance on our policies and text formatting issues.  Cheers!
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Thanks Michelle. Of course I did not expect you to disclose privacy details. If possible, you can pass my information to him so we discuss and improve the process which should be encouraged, with a better output!

On the other hand, no way I am going to edit his 106 existing summaries...
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Think of 106 as No Job security! LOL
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Hi Vincent, 

Thanks for your response. 

Unfortunately we can't provide your details to the user, even with your blessing - I have cut a ticket for an editor to look into these summaries and see if there are changes we can make on our end. 

I appreciate your patience. 

Joel
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Unfortunately we can't provide your details to the user, even with your blessing

Out of curiosity, is this a GDPR issue?
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Hi, Marco. I'd also be interested in knowing for sure, but I think it may simply be a security issue. As you may recall, IMDb subscribers used to be able to log in by supplying their respective usernames (registered handles), but at some point, the system was changed around so that only the verified email address could be recognized as a login credential, in addition to a lot of email addresses being stricken from the author/byline fields of mini-biographies, plot outlines and plot synopses throughout the database. This was to make it harder for people's user accounts to be broken into by pure strangers who could perform dictionary attacks or so guess the password of a user account.
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Hi, Vincent Fournols. Although they've not explicitly stated it, I'd image that the best the IMDb staff could do is try to invite Hugo Van Herpe to participate in this GS conversation.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Contributor contact 2.

Hi,

in this topic Contributor contact, I alerted about the appalling quality of plot summaries provided by one contributor, who does a (very bad) translation from pitches which can be found on French websites.

The request for contact was declined by IMDb staff, for very good reasons, but 
Michelle mentionned "I have also passed along your suggestion to reach out to the user
specifically for further guidance on our policies and text formatting
issues."

Obviously, this has had no effect, when looking at https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7073522/plotsummary

In the same topic, Jeorj said : "Although they've not explicitly stated it, I'd image that the best the IMDb staff could do is try to invite Hugo Van Herpe to participate in this GS conversation".

I do insist to comply with Jeorj's suggestion and call for that contributor's attention to this topic? Keeping in mind that, for the sake of IMDb, I want to help him!


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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Contributor contact 2.

This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies


This place needs to merge the OLD with the NEW - not NEW with the OLD ! !

How do WE continue This conversation of the NEW topic ? ?

All The NEW topic text is not listed here.

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Vincent Fournols

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How come the content of "Contributor contact 2.", which is now closed for added input, has not been imported here?

It is VERY frustrating :(

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This topic has also been updated to unsolved so it can be addressed again.
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Vincent Fournols

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Thanks Peter
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Yes, thank you, Peter.
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Hi all,

Thanks for your responses.

The ticket for this to be investigated is still pending review, once an editor look's into this we can correct the badly formatted data and will post back once complete. I have also taken steps to ensure future badly formatted summaries by this user no longer go live. 

I appreciate your patience! 

Joel
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HI! Joel, Employee
Thanks for your responses
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Contributor contact 2
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/contributor-contact-2?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=...
by ACT_1


Not helpful :
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?plot_author=Hugo%20Van%20Herpe - 117 titles

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bob the moo
IMDb member since February 2001
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/reviews - 8,875 Reviews

https://www.imdb.com/search/title?plot_author=bob+the+moo - 298 titles
https://www.imdb.com/search/name?bio_author=bob+the+moo - 22 names
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I have asked here and the Old Boards a gazillion times to change links
'plot_author=' to https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/plot
'bio_author=' to https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/bio

and add to
Quick Links
Ratings ....... Lists
Watchlist .... Checkins
Reviews ..... Poll Responses
Plots ............ Bios

Sos WE can get back to the User Profile page and see what else he has done

oh and maybe add...

bob the moo
Joined on December 21, 2012
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/bobthemoo

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Hi Vincent. Any progress on this? Just wondering if you had done anything?
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Hi Cliff,

I did some further editings over the weekend, including for upcoming movies, and one signed with my GS URL, but actually I do not think it will help attracting his attention. I feel a little helpless, but well, there are more serious issues ;) Too bad for the ones who stumble on his summaries...
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Agree. A thought. Mass Deletion is easier.
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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You could leave his name in place and put edited by You@ your Get Sat URL
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Has he done an ongoing TV Series?
You might write a review ahead of him. When he looks he sees his name even though he did not write it with your URL that would work. Or if there is a Pattern to the types of titles he chooses, You might head him off at the Pass to coin an American Phrase!
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Thanks for your patience.

I can confirm that we have now removed plot data which is not in adherence with our guidelines stated here: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/plots/G56STCKTK7ESG7CP?ref_=helpsrall#

If you notice any further inaccuracies then please let us know through the 'edit' function located at the bottom of the page.

Regards,