The original MacGyver is one of the shows that actually has title cards to tell you the name of the episodes. Currently, the first two episodes of season 3 are: Lost Love: Part 1 and Lost Love: Part 2. However, the title card for both episode just says "Lost Love". They should not be combined as they did not air together but aired a week apart. Since we should have titles that correspond to onscreen titles, should both episodes be called "Lost Love" which would be confusing?
This is the guideline I'm referring to: (https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/episode-guidelines/GDF7HR6CCCBKU3CP?ref_=helpart_nav_19#)
This is the guideline I'm referring to: (https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/episode-guidelines/GDF7HR6CCCBKU3CP?ref_=helpart_nav_19#)
The title: as it appeared on screen for that particular episode.
Adrian, Champion
Posted 2 months ago
Jaime, Employee
I don't see any issue with current state. Multi part episodes can air at different times, they don't have to air in same night and it's fully compatible to guidelines on how to distinguish multi part episodes.
Adrian, Champion
Most shows don't use title cards. The original MacGyver does. The titles are supposed to follow the onscreen title as shown on the title card.
I agree with you.
The Part 1 and Part 2 should be removed just leaving "Lost Love" listed twice.
The Part 1 and Part 2 should be removed just leaving "Lost Love" listed twice.
@Adrian
Using title cards doesn't make them untouchable. Rules mention cases where they can and should be "touched" (under "Re-use of the same title" and "Episode parts" sections)
Onscreen titles don't have any additional privileges, there's only one "The title" definition and all "title sources" on that definition have the same privileges, meaning "The title" should be modified when necessary and conditions on when and how are explained. Like Roman numerals or sequence numbers for re-used titles or Part 1/Part 2 for multi-part episodes.
In this case: with "Part 1/Part 2" on the end of the title if they don't have unique titles
Since both have same title (meaning they don't have unique titles) then they get Part 1/Part 2 added.
So everything is in accordance with guidelines in current state.
Using title cards doesn't make them untouchable. Rules mention cases where they can and should be "touched" (under "Re-use of the same title" and "Episode parts" sections)
Onscreen titles don't have any additional privileges, there's only one "The title" definition and all "title sources" on that definition have the same privileges, meaning "The title" should be modified when necessary and conditions on when and how are explained. Like Roman numerals or sequence numbers for re-used titles or Part 1/Part 2 for multi-part episodes.
In this case: with "Part 1/Part 2" on the end of the title if they don't have unique titles
Since both have same title (meaning they don't have unique titles) then they get Part 1/Part 2 added.
So everything is in accordance with guidelines in current state.
Adrian, Champion
Actually, it does. The guideline specifically states:
We use the original title of a movie/show in its original language as it appears on screen (on the title card) in the opening credits.
There is nothing in the Title formatting guide that states what you state. If it were there, then they need to fix the contradictory items.
We use the original title of a movie/show in its original language as it appears on screen (on the title card) in the opening credits.
There is nothing in the Title formatting guide that states what you state. If it were there, then they need to fix the contradictory items.
(Edited)
Things I said are on the guideline you linked.
There's the definition of "The title": as it appeared on screen for that particular episode. If an episode title is not shown on screen, the given titles on the supporting press releases during their announcements or on their original digital TV listings are acceptable
This definition states ways to determine "The title" and "on screen" title is one of the "ways/title sources"
"On screen title" does not have any special place/immunity. It only has priority over other sources when determining "The title"
Then there are some cases/exceptions specified where "The title" can and should be modified and their conditions are explained under "Re-use of the same title" and "Episode parts" sections of the same guideline.
These sections explain when and how "The title" should be modified. It doesn't say "on screen title is untouchable", "on screen" title is one of the ways to determine "The title"
There's the definition of "The title": as it appeared on screen for that particular episode. If an episode title is not shown on screen, the given titles on the supporting press releases during their announcements or on their original digital TV listings are acceptable
This definition states ways to determine "The title" and "on screen" title is one of the "ways/title sources"
"On screen title" does not have any special place/immunity. It only has priority over other sources when determining "The title"
Then there are some cases/exceptions specified where "The title" can and should be modified and their conditions are explained under "Re-use of the same title" and "Episode parts" sections of the same guideline.
These sections explain when and how "The title" should be modified. It doesn't say "on screen title is untouchable", "on screen" title is one of the ways to determine "The title"
(Edited)
Ed Jones(XLIX)