As we all know, apart from odd case-to-case scenarios most of use that we have for "(credit only)" attribute in cast sections are episodes of TV series, because in most cases main cast members will be credited in each and single episode regardless of whether they actually appear in such. There is, however, no evident consensus on what should we do in cases when actor actually appears in the episode, but in archive footage only. Logically it should leave them with appropriate number in the credits and "(archive footage)" attribute, however people seem to use different approaches to such cases.
There are cases when "(archive footage)" is not a reasonable choice because scene was filmed with multiple episodes in mind. While I can't remember any main cast member examples from the top of my head that happens from time to time with TV shows. Examples include Ray Wise in "Twin Peaks" (his two appearances in Part 2 and Part 18 is basically the same scene; however show was filmed as one big piece, therefore this scene was filmed with an intent of being used in both of them), as well as recent oddity that was appearances by John Wesley Shipp and LaMonica Garrett across "Arrow", "Supergirl" and "The Flash" with both of them only being credited on the latter. While it is the same scene, it was filmed with an intent to be included in all three series, so it technically doesn't count as archive footage.
A similar case is evident with "Legion" episode Chapter 17, where Dan Stevens's only appearance is in the scene from the previous episode. Until recently he had "(credit only)" on that episode but it is now has no attribute whatsoever.
Finally, today I stumbled upon another oddity with "The Flash": Jesse L. Martin does not appear in any new scenes in recent episode What's Past is Prologue, but he is credited and appears in a snippet from one of the previous episodes (seamlessly edited with the new footage). Oddly enough his listing on IMDb for the episode now has a cruel and unusual combination of both "(credit only)" and "(archive footage)".
So, as guidelines does not mention the specific algorithm: should cases of archive footage plus main cast "(credit only)" situation merit "(credit only)", "(archive footage)" or both?
There are cases when "(archive footage)" is not a reasonable choice because scene was filmed with multiple episodes in mind. While I can't remember any main cast member examples from the top of my head that happens from time to time with TV shows. Examples include Ray Wise in "Twin Peaks" (his two appearances in Part 2 and Part 18 is basically the same scene; however show was filmed as one big piece, therefore this scene was filmed with an intent of being used in both of them), as well as recent oddity that was appearances by John Wesley Shipp and LaMonica Garrett across "Arrow", "Supergirl" and "The Flash" with both of them only being credited on the latter. While it is the same scene, it was filmed with an intent to be included in all three series, so it technically doesn't count as archive footage.
A similar case is evident with "Legion" episode Chapter 17, where Dan Stevens's only appearance is in the scene from the previous episode. Until recently he had "(credit only)" on that episode but it is now has no attribute whatsoever.
Finally, today I stumbled upon another oddity with "The Flash": Jesse L. Martin does not appear in any new scenes in recent episode What's Past is Prologue, but he is credited and appears in a snippet from one of the previous episodes (seamlessly edited with the new footage). Oddly enough his listing on IMDb for the episode now has a cruel and unusual combination of both "(credit only)" and "(archive footage)".
So, as guidelines does not mention the specific algorithm: should cases of archive footage plus main cast "(credit only)" situation merit "(credit only)", "(archive footage)" or both?
Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
Posted 2 years ago
Peter, Champion
So how would you handle "Live! with Kelly and Ryan" where the hosts are on vacation or a national holiday and they they do a new front segment and sometimes end segment making it a new show but the filler is just interview segments of guests from previous episodes? Unlike this season where they are just doing full episode repeats.
gromit82, Champion
In the cases where there is an episode containing a new front segment and old interview segments, Kelly and Ryan themselves would have regular credits (since they taped new footage for the episode), but I think that the past guests ought to have (archive footage) credits. I recognize that this does not conform to what is stated in the guide linked above by Peter, but I think that guide ought to be changed.
The situations described by Nikolay in his original post are complex and I don't have an opinion about how to deal with them yet.
The situations described by Nikolay in his original post are complex and I don't have an opinion about how to deal with them yet.
Thank You! That's what I have been doing, but you get nagging feeling you are doing it wrong after reading the guide. I also remove any designation like guest from the character section and just use Himself/Herself.
