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Because the show credited the wrong person, I have to add my credit as 'unlisted'. True, it's unlisted in the credits of the episode, but I, indeed, performed the role and received the actual credit. Can this be corrected? Do I have to contact the production to make the correction on their end?
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Considering the number of pages with the same name, I'll assume that the name was submitted with the wrong Roman numeral.

If you have an IMDb user account or an IMDbPro account, you are welcome to submit a correction.

IMDb Help Center
Correcting Existing Data

In this case, I would go to the title page and submit an update.

When you get to the Updating Information page, go to the credit with the incorrect Roman numeral to the right of the name, click Update to the left of the name's drop-down list.
When you get to the name, correct the Roman numeral.
You will need to provide a short statement on why the name is being changed. Mention that the name was submitted to the wrong name page and you are correcting the Roman numeral. 

Processing can take between 2-3 days to complete (more or less).
I hope this helps. Please write back if you need assistance.
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No. That's not the problem. The show put the wrong name into the credits. They put the name of the person who was supposed to do the role, but didn't.
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Hi, Amanda Gray.

As I see, Naiah Cummins was credited in The InBetween by mistake for "Uniform Cop" that she actually played in Wu Assassins. Is this correct?

IF it is so, and IF she is credited in The InBetween (her name is printed in the end titles), then her credit should be changed to "credit only". That would mean she is in titles but actually not filmed.
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Amanda,

Sorry about that. Hopefully, the reply from MAthePA helps clarify the issue. If not, please provide more specifics on what needs to be updated.
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GMJ, my first idea was similar to yours ))
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Amanda Gray, the requested change should be live soon:


#190617-213849-135000
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I confirm that Amanda Gray (I) is not credited but acting in the episode Made of Stone (The InBetween series), while Naiah Cummins is credited but not acting:



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Interesting, I don't see that problem very often. In fact, in my 9 years as an IMDb contributor and more as a user I can remember stumbling upon one such case, Marcia Wallace on "Columbo"

In that case her credit was misplaced in a different episode... So may it be that Amanda's credit is also somewhere in an unrelated episode? 
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Yes, MAthePA, you have it exactly - she is 'credit only' while I appear in the role and received the actual credit. Thank you for getting all the details correct (I wasn't sure what specific details I should post here). I don't know anything further about Naiah's other credits. I would greatly appreciate it if my credit doesn't say 'unlisted' so it may appear next to the other actors on the show.
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Amanda, sorry, but for this episode the "uncredited" remains in the string of your name. This is the IMDb rule, to preserve the way how the titles appear on screen. 

I do hope to see you acting in the later episodes with the same credited role, because you are the greatest uniform cop on TV now ;)))

I wish you luck
Have a nice day
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PS: a quote from the rules:
The (uncredited) attribute is used to indicate that a person's name does not appear in the main or end titles of a title. A typical example is when a famous actor has an unbilled cameo appearance in a movie.
Uncredited appearances in a movie or show can be extremely difficult to verify, as they do not conform to IMDb's general principle for cast; we always follow the onscreen credits. Likewise, none of the following have any bearing on whether they were, by our definition, credited: pay stubs, call sheets, agent listings, press mentions, resumes, and their visibility on screen. The only thing that matters is the actual, onscreen credits. If their name was not on screen, but they were in the movie or show, they were uncredited.
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Haha. While I may appear again in future episodes as a background performer, this was my only episode as an actor. Thank you for your help. I hope you have a nice day too.
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Amanda, I am newbie here comparing to GMJ and Jeorj Euler... 
Jeorj provided a very interesting link to a precedent that might be helpful in your case. So, I'll read now and try, and maybe then we together will sing "Yo-Ho-Ho" ;)))

PS: Well. I read that, and such a variant is not so bad, but for me personally it would not be OK. But you'd better decide for yourself, since it's your work and your credits.

Variant 1. We leave the two credits as they are: Naiah Cummins (credit only) and Amanda Gray (uncredited).

Variant 2. We leave only one credit for both, your name is between the credited staff, but in this way: Amanda Gray (as Naiah Cummins). So, in fact, you automatically accept an alternate name that will be mentioned on your page as alternate one.

Amanda, please, tell me your decision. Which variant do you prefer?
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Wow. That's tricky. I can't quite imagine how the Varient2 will look. Can you refer me to a listing that does this? As an example.
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It seems to me that if we implement Varient2, Naiah and I will forever be linked as if we're one person. Searches for her would lead to me, and vice versa...? I would be more satisfied with Varient1 if Naiah's profile also drops to the bottom of the cast list (on the 'See All' page), and our profiles are side by side. Can that be arranged?
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Here is the name page of Audrey Casson:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6634068/

She had the same situation as yours when her colleague, Amelia Oswald was credited instead by mistake. They used the above-said "Variant 2" and resulted into this:

Audrey is credited but "as Amelia Oswald", and this keeps being her alternate name (see at the bottom of her page):
Moreover, when searching for "Amelia Oswald" in the base, now all users will also have Audrey Casson. It's a kind of pseudonim since that time.

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Amanda, since you prefer "variant 1", then I see no possibility to fix you near Naiah in that column of credits. Because the rules do not allow this in the ordered part (where the credits are ordered by numbers the same way as appear on screen); and even if we leave your name as well as Naiah without numbers now, then another contributor(s) may change it in a moment (and so on, and so forth).

The only thing I can do more for you, it is trivia section to explain this credits interchange.
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Ok. I've examined the Casson/Oswald case and it might be the most accurate account. It would get my profile into the correct position with the rest of Cast, which is important and the only downside is that when others search for Naiah, my name will also appear in the hits. No problem. Possibly, an advantage. :-) Let's do it.
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Amanda, if they "wanted" me to further hang after this, you must dress the uniform and protect me ;)))) OK?

Here is the submission (#190617-235329-668000):

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Amanda, may I ask: have you ever played in Phantasm II ?
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No worries, I'll protect you. Haha! Beautiful job. Thank you for straightening this out for me. No, I was never in Phantasm II. :-)
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Thanks MAthePA for handling this and can confirm the credit for Phantasm II is on a different name page and should be left as is as per Amanda's reply!
Have a great day!
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Additionally, there is an evidence that Amanda Gray (I) has been uncredited for her "Pirate" role in Descendants 2 (2017, TV Movie):


Amanda, you might be a secret agent there before wearing uniform ;)))

Anyway, congratulations with one more (un)credited work:

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Amanda, if you need, here it is in quality:







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Or you can make them more like portrait, just crop the right side from 900 to 600, as this one:

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Oh wow, that's great! My expression is awesome. Thank you!
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It would be really awesome to see some "biker" images on your page, but I have none ;)))
You are welcome
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Additionally, there is an evidence that Amanda Gray (I) has been uncredited for her "Employee" role in the episode No Holds Barred (series: No Tomorrow):




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Additionally, there is an evidence that Amanda Gray (I) has been uncredited for her "Paparazzi #3" role in Always Be My Maybe (2019):
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Amanda, please comment to this post if you know this scene:

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No, it's not familiar.
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I was unsure for some 20%, it was preferable to check that movie too...

Well, you know, I'm a little confused with the result of our previous success, because the submission was totally approved:


and 24 hours are nearly over, but I see no final change on your page :-/

Perhaps they knew that I'll be further beavering your career until those results actualized, because you've participated in one of my favorite movies long time ago ;))) such is not added yet...
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Yes, I've been waiting for it to show up too. Thanks for all the... beavering. ;-) What movie did you love from a long time ago?
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Oh, now I see it was a miscomprehension by my side: I've started your demo reel some seconds forward, right at the title "When Harry Met Sally", and paused because of high surprise, because it seems I know all that movie. Then rewatched the whole story; then rewatched your demo, and now I know it was a kind of documenatry :)))

BTW, if you need other works added (Cold Squad; Mooning; Run; Young Nurses), it would be great to know the release years and/or episodes.
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Ohhh. Ha! Some of these are scenes I filmed in a class (When Harry Met Sally, Cold Squad, Run and Young Nurses). Destiny Ridge is already on my Profile. Mooning - an independent film from 2000 - isn't in your system. The director isn't either. It was probably never released.
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I just sent in an uncredited clip from a movie I did a long time ago. Have to see if it's approved. Prom Night II : Hello Mary Lou. I'm known for it, in my small pond, so it might as well be represented on my profile as well.
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Aha! I see...
Amanda was a bad girl in school ;)))


Yeah! Usually occupying the last row like this (:


Well, I remember this movie watched, but remember not so much: the electricity out of potato, the sculpture of hand in the gallery and all that matter between girls there, and maybe that's all. The naked performances of Wendy Lyon left not so much space for other stories X)
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Wow. I love the GIF! :-D
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It's yours :-P
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Amanda, I was going to say "congratulations!" for your credit fixed, but see this was done as an open problem again after it was emphasized there is a problem. If the current variant for that credit is OK for you, so there is no problem any more. But if you are not satisfied, it seems to be better if you start this topic anew, explaining all the said things (related links: onetwothree) as a native speaker who is faced against the problem. Because by their constant ignorance of this problem, the editors insinuate the idea that maybe it's me who can not explain, since I'm not a native English speaker ;)))

Or you may address IMDb directly:
https://help.imdb.com/contact
selecting step by step:
IMDb Fan / Contributor questions;
Filmography credits;
Other credit issues;
- E-mail -
in the "additional information" please provide the explanations (the above 1, 2, 3). You also may additionally provide the links there.

For now, I'm lack of more (peaceful) ideas how that circle may be transformed into factual result if you'd like to preserve also the order of credits.
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Ok, I sent an email as you suggested with a full explanation of the issue. I understand you just fine, so I wouldn't suggest that your communication in English is a problem. Let's see what happens. Hopefully we achieve a result in this matter today. :-)
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Amanda, congrats!

Thanks to Jeorj and Michelle, the initial problem is solved completely :)
Let a joyful tear and have a sigh of relief ;)))

this one is also yours.
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Hooray!! That's PERFECT! :-D:-D:-D <3
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Thanks for the GIF's. I'm sure I'll find them useful. <3
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Additionally, there is an evidence that Amanda Gray (I) has been uncredited for her "Goth girl" role in Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II (1987):





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Amanda Gray, your filmography is impressive! 
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Ok, MAthePA, you have to stop beavering with my account now. If there's too much uncredited stuff, I'll no longer come across as a serious actor. :-P
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Haha...
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Amanda, there is one more done before you told me "enough examples" ;-P



Now you know how to add them by your own ;)))

For your additional attention: IF you provide no trustful evidence (e.g. bills of payment) for the above "stand-in" credit, then a contributor may submit a deletion which should be approved :)))
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Yeah, this one's definitely going too far. In general, it's considered uncool to put background work on IMDB. I don't mind putting a few things IF I'm totally featured, IF I'm included throughout the scene, and IF it shows an interesting reaction (therefore actual acting was involved). No worries, I'll just eventually remove the listings that don't meet all my criteria. In the meantime, it has been genuinely fun to watch you come up with all of these. Haha! You research exceedingly well.
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Well, I'm not going to insist. However, as an example, at the top of T. Dolman page we see "Miscellaneous Crew" as mainstream, while there could be actor-related mark when having more titles involved in -- both credited and "uncredited" ones. And the latter constitute almost a half of such credits, but they seem to be not all there ;)))

Anyway, I have stopped. Let the others beaver the way how they are able or not :-) And let the next Tuesday possibly show a difference.

Amanda, you are great, and that pond seems be larger than you think ;)
Best wishes!
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Amanda Gray, not exactly sure why it seems "uncool" in professional filmmaking circles to put their background work in the filmographies. I've witnessed the same situation many times with directors and their amateur/student shorts, among with actors: eventually most of omitted will end up on IMDb because even smaller release or festival screening leaves enough information and buzz... And it's really nothing negative about knowing that for people: it demonstrates that a person gradually developed oneself into a filmmaker or actor through years of hard work. Incomplete filmgoraphies mostly just make people think that a person is an overnight success and... Things like that hold up less with time, I guess. Not to mention complicating the research for film fans of the next generations.  

Bruce Willis was an extra in the early 80's which eventually landed him a guest starring role in the hit first season of "Miami Vice" (1984)Alfred Hitchcock was a title designer for years and never was shy about it. Orson Welles made at least four amateur short films before he went on to direct Citizen Kane (1941), despite of persistent rumors that his feature film debut was his very first film... That kind of biographies always inspired me to push through the hardest times, so I don't understand why in modern filmmaking so many people shy away from their background work, which is often essential to the movie. Many great scenes were amplified by talented extras, if you think about it... I guess, Hitchcock and his walk-on cameos taught me how important that type of acting is, because noticing him eventually led to me paying close attention to background in general.  

The irony is that what casting associates consider "unserious" later translates to filmmaking industry in general, which is considered "unserious" by many people outside of it... And then we have a lot of people on GS requesting to delete their legit credited listings from A-tier movies because they're now pursuing a serious job. 

Sorry for writing so much on the subject - I guess it's just me being too emotional on that situation and, well, having a lot of amateur stuff in my filmography.  
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Oh, sure, I have no issue with listing any and all amateur acting credits. And I agree that they're the building blocks in a film career and we can be proud of them. The point of BG, though, is that you're not actually supposed to be seen or noticed in the film. When we're doing our job well, there's no reason to list the job. It's like telling people about your boring day at the office. Nobody cares. Haha! That's what I mean about it being uncool. Where BG starts to involve feature shots and snippets of acting, well, then I think it becomes a personal preference to list it on IMDB. If I'm watching a show and I've noticed someone in the scene, a great character, then sure, I might hit up IMDB to see who it was. And, yes, it would be nice to find their profile there, 'uncredited' or whatever. And you're right, IMDB will stand for all of time (at least the digital era), and for future generations, so it's important to represent these films, and ourselves as fully as we can.
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Amanda Gray, I guess it's just me being a film fan who really loves to pay close attention to background, but I notice a lot of acting in walk-ons and it always fascinates me. I also usually recognize someone in the crowd scenes, because overtime you start noticing more and more familiar faces. I am pretty sure I will be noticing you in everything from now on. :)

If it's okay to ask, was Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II (1987) your film debut? This movie has been on my "to watch" list for ages and will probably end up in one of Halloween marathons in recent years. :)
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It's awesome that you pay attention to background. I think many people who work BG begin to study the background more. I work with a lot of the same people and it's funny how I'll sometimes even recognize a friend from behind and blurry. Haha! Yes, Prom Night II was my first film. I think it's worth watching. ;-)
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