Credits for Restored Editions of Films

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It's 2019. There are hundred of newly restored editions of older films being re-released, including the work of craftspeople and artisans helping clean films up for high definition 2K and 4K presentation. That IMDB refuses, literally kicking and screaming "the attribute 'restoration/restored' is ineligible" is a mindset that must be retired. 

There's is NO reason IMDB programmers cannot add fields to include the contributions of post production personnel including colorists, music departments, and sound engineers that have contributed their professional talents in restoring a film for their rightfully earned credits to be displayed.

Even if it's a "RESTORED EDITION" field, it's easy, and it's doable. That IMDB refuses to explore this after so many topics fielded here on the subject shows a very sad contempt for the work of so many professionals in this evolving area of film preservation and restoration.

I see so many incorrect credits and listing for other movies here on IMDB, that editors refuse to explore properly applying LEGITIMATE credits is a disservice to so many professionals.
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Jerry Vasilatos

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  • disappointed.

Posted 6 months ago

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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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I agree. The work done to restore movies is harder than making the movie was in the first place.
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Jerry Vasilatos

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Thanks Ed.

It's a simple programming effort for IMDB to add a field while also clarifying it's for a newly restored or preserved edition. It doesn't diminish the legacy of people who created the film to begin with if it's identified as a restoration contribution. 

I recently completed a 25th Anniversary edition of a film I produced and directed in 2K, because the original standard definition version can't be presented and look proper. In the process I also gave it the orchestral score it always deserved that we couldn't afford in 1993 to complete my vision.

https://vimeo.com/307087863#t=465s

It's of no comfort that IMDB continues to take this position when some films no longer even exist in their original versions, and this is not asking to whitewash an original crew's credits. When I attempted to update the page for my film with the new composer, IMDB removed the original composer, and now the film has NO composer listed which doesn't accurately reflect the credit integrity IMDB claims it's protecting to begin with nor give credit to the new composer Balint Sapszon and the Budapest Scoring Orchestra that helped breathe new life into the film 25 years later.

Meanwhile I see postings like this which IMDB allowed to go through to begin with and the inconsistency of credit integrity utterly blows my mind.

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/help-removing-fake-student-film-titles



And I can't forget the time either I was trying to understand this when they also arbitrarily removed the lead actor's credit.

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/missing-information-65nb9tc2sivsc



Ultimately this is a database coding issue and IMDB just doesn't seem to want to properly credit all crew contributions for films as they are now seen.
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Additional crew credits section could easily be used.
Starting with the first word.....
Restoration.
Then after that word, the job description performed in the resto process.
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Dubbing actor/voices could as easily be added to the database as well.
Plot summaries, reviews, trivias, etc. could be entered in any (major) language, and translated by an AI
And these propositions would have a much bigger impact on the worldwide use of IMDb...

But anyway, I fully support the registration for restoration stakeholders.
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We need to keep hammering IMDB on this until we "Get Satisfaction".
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Vincent Fournols

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Unfortunately, there scores of ideas, each with tens of votes which look unattended yet...
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Jerry Vasilatos

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Time to bump this subject again since IMDB is ignoring the importance of this topic.
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Let's examine how this works.

IMDB won't add new contributions to a restored film, but when a 2018 Edition, newly COPYRIGHTED with a 2018 release date to accommodate new material, is making the rounds of the festival circuit, winning awards as a new version of the film with newly added material and new score and new producers that helped pay for the new edition and new craftspeople and artisans who contributed their talents:

https://reelchicago.com/article/media-wrap/

IMDB won't add the new edition that is the only version that now exists of the film.

So NO, IMDB is NOT fulfilling their claims that they are the repository of all credits of a film because they won't add people to original listings NOR recognize a newly copyrighted and released work even with Library of Congress attribution as a newly copyrighted work.




Screen grabs showing the full crew and 2018 copyright.



And this is what we get after submitting it as a newly screened edition with new copyright:



Just what does a blanket "Badly Formatted" mean after all the work submitting and updating and including every member of the cast and crew (including new contributors to this newly copyrighted edition?) 

Nothing was "badly formatted" when we're following an IMDB submission template that green lights everything once entered before submitted.