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Getting Off Topic Now...

I doubt that many users try to find ideas by scanning down a list.
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Idea Board is for Staff to read also
Staff coulda read my message on the day I posted it
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https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/-trivia-pages
[ Trivia Pages ? ]
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Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Reviews interface improvement idea.
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Please don't post to that "URL for Review" thread! Post here instead.
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I don't see a way to grab all the relevant posts and create a "clean" idea thread for the "URL for Review" discussion. This is my first time attempting the Fork function. Give me a few minutes to work on it.
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I'm not seeing the Merge come through, so here's my reply to this root.

bderoes Champion said:

ACT_1:
I've posted 26 Idea threads, and rarely had a reply from staff. Never has staff said "great idea, we're working on it right now." Or even "it's in the queue for implementation" (that I recall).

I've found Ideas that I liked, and even one over 5 years old that had 100+ votes, but no staff reply.
I've found some Ideas that were marked "Implemented," although nothing recent.

Removing an Idea post only guarantees it cannot be found.
I don't know if staff looks at Ideas these days, but we shouldn't assume they don't.

After thinking about it further, you might want to post your "Load More" issue as a Problem (& mention each page-type where you find it.) After all, IMDb fixed the way the Ratings page displayed (I believe that was a Load More page after the Dec 6 update).
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And the reply:

ACT_1 Member said:

You are bderoes, Champion 
You could post a "Load More" message and it Might get read by someone that cares

You writing is better than mine here

Another sample

"Load More" on Reviews 

Star Wars: The Last Jedi  (2017) 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/reviews - 4,972 Reviews
25? reviews per page to [Load More] = 198 [Load More]'s

So, after I get to [Load More] number 75 - maybe I want to come back another day
and find [Load More] number 76...

Large Trivia and Goofs and Quotes should be in pages also ?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/trivia - Showing all 225 items

Trivia has a Permalink / Share this
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/trivia?item=tr3508474

Maybe you can find larger Goofs and Quotes

EDIT

here is another sample

Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace  (1999)  
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/reviews - 3,664 Reviews

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/trivia - 258 items
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/trivia?item=tr0795044 Permalink

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/goofs - 214 items
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/goofs?item=gf0852708 Permalink

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/quotes - 121 items
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/quotes/qt0270682 Permalink
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I have never seen any of the Star Wars movies

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ACT_1 :
Add "April 23 2018" to the top of your text
as it will be displayed in Yellow Box for a while
and later when it is not so New
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Good tip, I added it.

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Merging didn't work, but I copy/pasted for our reference.

Here's my reply to your suggestion that _I_ post on the Load More issue.

It's not my issue. I can't imagine anyone looking through 100 trivia items, much less however many it takes to generate Load More.

I also don't read many reviews on IMDb, unless I'm looking for something specific.

So what I want (and have posted the Idea here) is a Search function within Reviews.
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Sorry, but this thread is a messy message list


Is there a way to Search for Titles with more than ... (pick a number) 2,000 reviews
or Users with more than ... 6,000 ?

ccthemovieman-1
IMDb member since December 2004
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur4445210/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur4445210/reviews - 6,204 Reviews

bob the moo
IMDb member since Feb 2001
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/reviews  - 8,821 Reviews

bob the moo
Joined on December 21, 2012
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/bobthemoo

bkoganbing
IMDb member since June 2003
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur2483625/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur2483625/reviews - 14,448 Reviews

Michael_Elliott
IMDb member since November 2006
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur13134536/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur13134536/reviews - 16,015 Reviews

MartinHafer
IMDb member since June 2003
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur2467618/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur2467618/reviews - 21,797 Reviews



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I agree that this thread is messy. I agree that the Fork process created lots of blank space on your post. The sillier Paste worked better for the replies. I just wanted to get it off that other guy's Idea.

I have no clue how to search for the things you found, much less for titles with lots of reviews. Probably the Top 250? 

I don't know why you're listing the name, the length of membership, and the user link, when just the .../user/ur.../reviews link suffices. The number of reviews is an excellent annotation.
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So all this was supposed to help the URL for Reviews case? To me this supports the Load More case. The poster was talking about linking to a single Review, not to page 76 of the list of reviews. 

Some of your post provides IMDb with examples of how they already give permalinks, but where that started is only clear to someone who really looks at the links.

I think you list too many links when 1 per film would suffice. Having so many links obscures the meaning. And you need words to explain why you're including the next group of links.
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You are the better writer here

Lets delete Everything and start over with 2 threads

keep only the  original 'Reviews interface improvement' idea by Ron Zajac

re-add on topics to That thread

Start new:  How to break up Reviews into pages

Save all this in NotePad and sort it out later



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This is our private message board for now. I see no need to delete this thread unless/until we're done.

If you want me to delete any/all of your posts on the other thread, let me know.  I'll also delete my replies to anything deleted. "Everything" sounds like more than that to me.
1. How to get Permalinks for Reviews
is already the thread https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/reviews-interface-improvement-idea.
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IMDb staff have said is that the level of support for Idea posts is used to gauge interest in suggestions. But certainly, it is not the way to get a reply from staff.

Col said here a few months ago that Idea posts are read regularly:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
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Hi guys,

Sorry but I'm also struggling to understand this thread, do you mind clarifying? If you are querying why ideas posted on GS are not actioned it is generally due to us only having a limited amount of development resource in which to implement any improvements or add new features to the site. This is often a tough decision but we try to implement any improvements for the best of the majority of our users.

Regards,
Will
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ACT_1, if I understand you correctly, the answer is "yes".
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I do not have 'a browser bookmark' ?  I have 'Favorites' for GS etc...


That works great, I found this...

https://www.imdb.com/review/rw4003376/
Rogue_One Review of Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
5/10 
I have a bad feeling about this
15 December 2017
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Rogue_One
IMDb member since July 2007
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur15948533/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur15948533/ratings -  3,178 titles
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur15948533/reviews - 1 Review
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi  (2017)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/reviews
5,242 Reviews
= = =

Next ??
Same idea to get to the review from Users reviews list
(No Permalinks there)

bob the moo
IMDb member since February 2001
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1002035/reviews - 8,844 Reviews

Atomic Blonde (2017)
Solid action but otherwise fairly superficial stuff
This film produces quite a few scenes of action ...
5 June 2018
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Find that on the Title reviews ??

Atomic Blonde  (2017)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2406566/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2406566/reviews - 529 Reviews



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From the user reviews page, and Jeorg's bookmarklet, the review for Atomic Blonde is
https://www.imdb.com/review/rw4191593
I don't see a rating on that review, but the date is 5Jun18, and the helpfulness is 1 of 3.

Sorting by review date & search the page for "bob the moo", and it's there.

Sorting by helpfulness (least first) requires several Load More's, but it's there too.
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"Permalink" should be on bob the moo's list ?
https://www.imdb.com/review/rw4191593/

1 out of 3 found this helpful. Was this review helpful? Yes No | Report this
https://contribute.imdb.com/review/tt2406566/rw4191593/report....

Change
https://contribute.imdb.com/review/tt2406566/rw4191593/
to
https://www.imdb.com/review/rw4191593/

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Yes I can search for bob the moo
Sort by:
Helpfulness
Review Date
Total Votes
Prolific Reviewer  <--
Review Rating
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2406566/reviews?sort=reviewVolume&dir=desc&ratingFilter=0

as I know he is (Bob had a list but stopped updating it)http://www.freewebs.com/bobthemoo/

But I do not know how to sort by for other Users - Date Could be many on a date
and it might take a while to Search thru Many Reviews - even with "Windows Find"

with a cupola dozen Load Mores

Atomic Blonde  (2017)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2406566/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2406566/reviews - 529 Reviews
vs.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi  (2017)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/reviews - 5,242 Reviews

Anyway...
this Permalink is an IMDb Problem and should be fixed ?
No staff is reading this recently

Why WE all need to start again with a less confuzin thread
by a much more better writer than me

Permalinks and Page numbers etc

 ? ? ?

This is  flagged as  Question   Answered



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Yes, it is worth noting that you can hover over the "Report this" hyperlink, right-click and then select "Copy Link Location"; and then pick out the part that contains the individual review identifier. I should've mentioned that before. I'm glad you pointed out something to that effect.
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I just realized the bookmarklet script code is missing an important assignment operation. Bummer, as I don't like posting incomplete algorithms.
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Hi Will,
This was an attempt by me to move some responses away from another thread that had gone off-topic. I didn't want to just delete them. I see these as a preliminary discussion on how to post a new idea/problem, and both ACT_1 and I felt we'd gone off the topic of the thread where the first 3 posts were created.

I don't think classifying this thread as a Problem is correct. Eventually, a thread might be created about Load More on certain IMDb pages being a problem. That is not this thread, and I wasn't expecting IMDb staff to respond.

As ACT_1 suggested, this is eventually going to get deleted. But without a private messaging system, this is an attempted substitute.
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No worries, thanks for letting me know. I've marked this as question answered, that way you guys can continue your conversation without it requiring staff intervention.

Regards,
Will
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ACT_1, Do you want to take a stab at drafting a new Idea or Problem for Load More, post it here, and have me give feedback on your draft? What you have above doesn't have enough explanation yet.

BTW, I have provided TMI recently. On this post,
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/runtime-lost-horizon-1937
I thought I was being helpful to provide all the different screens/info, but clearly Michelle's response showed it was too long, didn't read.
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I could start a new [LoadMore] thread
but IMDb may not be able to Fix that anyway

The Problem with Pages v. [LoadMore] is the different ways of sorting Reviews
Sort by:
Helpfulness
Review Date
Total Votes
Prolific Reviewer
Review Rating

a Review on "Page 14" on Helpfulness may be a Review on "Page 2" on Prolific Reviewer ??

I don't know how that would work

So, IMDb just counts to 25 and adds a [LoadMore]

How many visitors get past the first 25 anyway

Perhaps this is why there are no Page Numbers to refer back to at a later date

Adding page numbers to all the Reviews lists could be too much work for the busy Staff doing ...
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Question I have had for a long time...

Are all IMDb pages created manually and saved
or created on demand when some one looks at it

Each page is a collection of info from many different databases

Now:
More than 8,333,000 Title pages
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8333000/

More than 9,795,000 Name pages
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9795000/

with all their sub pages for Reviews yada yada yada

Plus all the Help and other pages:

Home, Top Rated Movies, Box Office, TV, Coming Soon, Site Index, Search, In Theaters,
Contact Us, Account, News, Press Room, Advertising, Jobs,
IMDbPro, Box Office Mojo, Withoutabox,
Conditions of Use, Privacy Policy, Interest-Based Ads ...

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Sorry but I'm also struggling to understand this thread, do you mind clarifying?
by  Will, Employee

Will will get email and stop by for another visit to read my reply
about the 2 problems WE are chatting about here ??



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Will (the Employee) might not monitor this after saying this above:
No worries, thanks for letting me know. I've marked this as question answered, that way you guys can continue your conversation without it requiring staff intervention.
I'm sure that something like displaying reviews is an automated dynamic process, so that if a new review is posted (and accepted) it is included immediately. I can certainly vouch for that being the case for Trivia, Soundtracks, and even Cast changes, having submitted some.

I agree that because of that dynamism, page number will not mean the same every time someone visits Reviews for the same title. (Hence the need for a permalink when I want a friend to read review X on IMDb without my having to copy/paste it for them.) But I think page number can still have value. It should still get you to the right neighborhood. But you might miss a review that is newly moved up into the territory you skip.

If I were someone who looked at lots of reviews, Load More would be a problem for me. On a Chromebook, I have limited hardware resources, and I have 12 tabs open at the moment. So more and more reviews on a page will start to fail eventually. That alone means Pages would be better, even if the page number is not an exact future reference point.
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/reviews - 4,972 Reviews

Do not know why there has to be so many Reviews
Either the visitor reads it as a good movie or ... something else
in the first 25

Newspapers and TV news each have one (or two) reviewer(s) for the latest titles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ebert
a film critic for the Chicago Sun-Times from 1967 until his death in 2013

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Siskel
an American film critic and journalist for the Chicago Tribune.
Along with colleague Roger Ebert,
he hosted a series of popular review shows on television from 1975 to 1999.

Some folks just have to voice their opinion
Hmmm, like I am doing here

Will shudda got my entire reply in email - no need to read it here
and he gets email for all else we are doing here ? (maybe turned that off !?!)

Bob the Moo kept a list of prolific Reviewers as he was
back when the Boards were active
I saved some of that list

and now with 87,740,000 Users
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur87740000/
More will be writing more Reviews