Dutch cabaret / stand-up comedy

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Hey I'm adding some stand-up comedy shows, but I'm not sure which format and release date I should use.
Because most, if not all of them, were first broadcasted on TV and later released on DVD.
Sometimes there's even a gap of more than 3 years between TV broadcast and DVD release.
What do I pick?
Thanks in advance.
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Also, some stand-up shows are tagged as 'documentary'. what's up with that?
And a third question since I'm at it, why can't I add genre 'stand-up comedy' or 'cabaret'?
Maybe there should be a top 250 stand-up comedy shows too :)
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Christian,

Please see Tom's reply in an earlier discussion:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/need-help-to-correct-genre-this-movie-21-august-2015#reply_1...

Tom quoted from an IMDb submission guide saying ""[for Documentary] This genre should also be applied to all instances of stand-up comedy and concert performances."

In my subsequent reply, I pointed out some examples where apparently that rule has sometimes not been followed.

(Note:  As his by-line says, Tom is an official representative.
I am not a rep; I am just a user, not affiliated with IMDb.)
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Christian: I agree with the user called Nobody above.

In addition, I am not sure why you are asking about the format for a show that was first broadcast on TV and only released on DVD much later, up to three years later. Normally a title is classified by the way in which it was first distributed to the public. The shows you are talking about were first broadcast on TV, so they should be classified as Made for TV, and specifically as TV specials.

Is there some reason why you would suggest that these shows would be treated as not Made for TV?

I hope this helps.
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Ok I've added them as TV Special, there's a few I added as 'video' before I started this thread.
How do I correct them, I tried to in the edit page but I can't find it, something I'm missing?

Regarding the genres, it would've been so much easier if they simply added 'stand-up comedy' to the genres.

Something completely different: I corrected a music video of Lionel Richie, someone added him twice, now this page is empty and can be deleted:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6528240/?ref_=fn_al_nm_3
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Hi Christian -

Thanks for reporting the empty page, it has now been removed from the site.  Cheers!
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Thanks everyone, now how do I change the format from video to TV special?
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Christian: You would submit a Title Correction. If the title is currently entered into IMDb as a made-for-video production, its official IMDb title will look like this, for example:

The Gromit82 Show (2015) (V)

So you would submit a Title Correction to change it to:

The Gromit82 Show (2015) (TV)

In other words, the same except for having (TV) at the end instead of (V).

During the process, you will get a warning that you are changing the title type, but that is what you want to do, so check the box for "Warning understood, go ahead anyway" and proceed with the submission.

Besides the Title Correction, you should also submit the keyword tv-special to the title to indicate that it is a nonfiction program rather than a TV movie.

I hope this helps. Good luck!
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Ah, that simple.
So when adding tv-special as a keyword it changes it from 'movie' to 'tv-special'?
Great. Thanks. This was what I wanted to know.

What no one mentioned though, is that the artist name should always be in the title too.
As seen here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085474/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3
Good to know..
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Christian: If the title is listed as a movie, it's not just adding tv-special as a keyword to turn it into a TV special. You also have to make a Title Correction so that the designation (TV) will be at the end of the title, after the year in parentheses. 

In other words, a TV special is supposed to
  1. have (TV) in parentheses at the end of the title -- example: The Gromit82 Show (2015) (TV)
  2. have the keyword tv-special
Regarding the artist name, it is true that the comedian's name will usually appear in the title of a stand-up comedy program, but I don't know if we can say that their name will always appear in the title.
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Yes, I know. I'm only adding stand-up shows. I've not added a film yet :) Thanks.

Maybe someone can delete this empty page, I moved the credits of this duplicate artist:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6273126/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
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Christian: If Daniel Arends at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6273126/ is a duplicate entry, what is the other name under which his credits appear? If the two pages refer to the same person, even if one of the pages is empty, they can be merged to eliminate the empty page.
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ok, I'll do that than.
Thanks.
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Hey I have a question, as what should I add a show if a stand-up show was never broadcast on TV but instead putt on the artists' youtube channel?
I'm referring to this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TneD-46rS7k
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Christian -  we currently do list web series on the site.  When submitting this type of title, you will need to submit it under the "Made for TV" type, which includes:
 TV series, TV mini-series, web-series, TV special, and TV movie.
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And then, which one of these? TV special?
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Christian and Michelle: Wouldn't this qualify as an "Online Standalone Video" rather than as part of a web series? (I can't be sure myself.)

If it's an online standalone video, rather than part of a series, it should be classified as a made-for-video title based on the guide at https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/guide/title_formats.
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I don't know man, it's not made for TV, nor for Video.
It's made for Youtube..
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Christian: What I meant was, if it's a single made-for-YouTube program that is not part of a series, then it should be entered as though it were a made-for-video title, because the new titles form doesn't have a specific made-for-Internet category.
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ok, but where do I choose 'Online Standalone Video'?
I can only pick 'Made for Video', and no further options.
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Christian: Sorry for any confusion. The words "online standalone video" do not appear on the new titles form. What they mean is that if a video is first released online, and stands alone without being part of a series, then it should be submitted as Made for Video.

When you submit a Made for Video title, you will be asked to indicate whether it is feature length (45 minutes or longer) or a short subject (44 minutes or shorter). You will then proceed through the form and submit it as a normal title regardless of the fact that it was made for the Internet. The only indication you will need to provide that the video was made for the Internet should be to list the web site where the video premiered as the Distributor. I would recommend indicating in the Distributor section of the form that the distributor's type is "all media" with an attribute of (internet).

If the video you referred to above is the one at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5591556/ which is currently listed as Roel Meijvis: Overruled (2014) (TV), and if it premiered on the Internet and not on television, then I would recommend submitting a Title Correction for it to change it to Roel Meijvis: Overruled (2014) (V) instead.
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Thanks, consider it done!
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Christian: I should also have mentioned that if you are submitting a made-for-YouTube video, please make sure to include a link in the Video Clips section to the video's YouTube page, with the description "YouTube - full video".
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Consider it done!
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Hey can someone please delete this empty duplicate page:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6804029/?ref_=fn_al_nm_3
Thanks.
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Christian: If Maarten van Rossem (III) at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6804029/ is supposed to be a duplication of one of the other two people with the same name, I would recommend doing a "Name Correction or Merge" to correct his name to whichever one of the other two that page is supposed to be for.
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