Face-Off: Best Al Pacino Mob Movie

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With his prevalent New York accent, Al Pacino, just fits right in, in any organized crime movie.

So this poll asks you, what's your favorite Al Pacino Mob Movie?

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls095979419/
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He played everything :

The heir to an old-school Don
A ruthless Mafia Don  with political ties
A corrupt politician with Mafia ties
A comical mobster
A disrespected underboss
A Hispanic druglord incarnating the pervert side of the American Dream

and even a Hispanic ex-gangster whose dream is to find peace and redemption in Carlito's Way
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No Typecasting there!!!!!
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FYC

Heat (1995)
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he is not playing a mob but he is playing in the movie, I don't know if it is eligible.
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It's not a Mob Movie.
Thanks though!
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Not a mob movie ?!!!!!, I considered it a mob movie. 
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Storyline

Hunters and their prey--Neil and his professional criminal crew hunt to score big money targets (banks, vaults, armored cars) and are, in turn, hunted by Lt. Vincent Hanna and his team of cops in the Robbery/Homicide police division. A botched job puts Hanna onto their trail while they regroup and try to put together one last big 'retirement' score. Neil and Vincent are similar in many ways, including their troubled personal lives. At a crucial moment in his life, Neil disobeys the dictum taught to him long ago by his criminal mentor--'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner'--as he falls in love. Thus the stage is set for the suspenseful ending.... Written by Tad Dibbern <DIBBERN_D@a1.mscf.upenn.edu>


Cops and Robbers Movie
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Heat is considered an Organized Crime movie: https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?keywords=organized+crime it is the #33 on the list

For your consideration here are all the Al Pacino Organized Crime movies: https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&keywords=organized+crime&role=nm0000199
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Not going on the list
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I do not care if it is categorized by genre
I dont care if it is on a list.

This is the definition of organized crime
HEAT DOES NOT QUALIFY

Organized crime is a category of transnational, national, or local groupings of highly centralized enterprises run by criminals who intend to engage in illegal activity, most commonly for profit. Some criminal organizations, such as terrorist groups, are politically motivated. Sometimes criminal organizations force people to do business with them, such as when a gang extorts money from shopkeepers for "protection".[1] Gangs may become disciplined enough to be considered organized. A criminal organization or gang can also be referred to as a mafia, mob,[2][3] ring,[4] or syndicate;[5] the network, subculture and community of criminals may be referred to as the underworld. European sociologists (e.g. Diego Gambetta) define the mafia as a type of organized crime group that specializes in the supply of extra-legal protection and quasi law enforcement. Gambetta's classic work on the Sicilian Mafia[6] generates an economic study of the mafia, which exerts great influence on studies of the Russian Mafia,[7] the Chinese Mafia,[8] Hong Kong Triads[9] and the Japanese Yakuza.[10]


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So DO NOT tell me what is or is not something. I'm 64 years old and have lived in Boston. I drove a Cab right there in Southie. I have been in a Mob Controlled Bar in Boston. I Know What MOB is. You sir DO NOT. It was Whitey Bulger's Bar, The Triple O's
Image result for whitey bulger bar
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Differences of opinion do not have to get personal. Let's try to keep reactions measured so this board remains a civil place. 
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Sorry for the duplicate message: that's been happening to me a lot lately and I can't seem to delete the copy. 
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Nikolay Yerioman (Champion) knows how to delete duplicates. Ask him. I'm sure he can explain how.
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Ed,

Nikolay and I have admin rights. Ruby does not.
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Ed Jones(XLIX)

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Oh, I thought all Champions had them.
Thanks.
Me DUMB!
You SMART!
Where's Cheeta?
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FFOB
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How about 'Carlito's Way'?
My choice here is Scarface
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Carlitos Way is not an organized crime movie per se.
:):)
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But I pulled the Irishman ad put it in with a notation. That way it has a chance now
If it does not go live before the Irishman is released, I'm puttin it back the way it was.
Cool?

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Seem right :)
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Thanks Joe
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Just wanted to ask about. ;D
It's still not o the list.
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MOB FFO Bump ED Off
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bump
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If 'Carlito's Way' is on the list, it seems that 'Heat' should definitely be on the list. And it seems that 'Irishman' should either be on the list or mentioned in the intro. since it will be released so soon. 

Although 'Godfather' is almost universally considered to be a masterpiece, I have a special place in my heart for 'Donnie Brasco.' And 'Carlito's Way' boasts Sean Penn, as well as being a really good movie, so this is a tough choice. 
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Not a Mob Movie. A group of professional bank robbers in not a mob.
Carlito's pulled. The Irishman added.
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Ohhh, that's right. They were bank robbers. It's probably on the border because they were pretty organized but it could probably go either way and it's your poll. 
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I've seen Heat about 5 times, so my recollection is pretty good on it's content.
Ruby, my employment history for the last 30 years is self employ. So this affords me the opportunity have Sat TV in my business, I watch approximately 15 hours a day of TV and Movies, between home and work. Mostly DVR'd, so I can skip commercials. So I can watch 17-18 episodes of a series in a day. Plus I have Hulu, Prime, and N-Flix.
I have 25,000 titles under my belt. About 2/3 are TV.
So, when I opine, it is based on first hand knowledge, plus life experiences.
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As it is probably with most people. I prefer empirical evidence but there are some things that are indeed subjective and don't lend themselves to empirical evidence. In those areas, we all have to be able to tolerate opinions that are different than our own. I think you see this as a memory issue but I see it as a difference in the use of the word "mob." Both are reasonable. Either way, you do not have to give me your resume: I take you at your word. Also, I didn't even make a suggestion: I said that it could go either way and that it's your poll. I'm not sure how to sound less invested. 
There's no tug of war here. 
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Mobump
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Funny!
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Hey Ed, I just realized you have the characters' names under the films, except not under The Irishman.

May I also suggest one tiny edit? (no comma between Pacino and just)

With his prevalent New York accent, Al Pacino just fits right in, in any organized crime movie.

Are you the one who said, hmmm... I can't remember now but something about punctuation and I admitted to being a punctuation nerd. : )
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Yeah that's me. I'm a nerd in other areas!!
Fixing the boo boos.
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I thought so. I mean I thought it was you that commented on my preoccupation with punctuation, lol  -- not I thought that you were a nerd in other areas, lol. 
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I never owned a pocket protector though! But I was in the AV Club!
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A link to your actor page is not really relevant, and a link to other suggestions that have not gone live is also not something we usually include in polls.
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Peter. You have a link to my user page on every poll. So you usually include my user info. This is acceptable. I'm just narrowing it down to my lists, which is what polls are all about. So your saying that "We don't usually include" statement is at best misleading in the truth.  Also I listed the link to Dan's Blogspot that directs the poll taker to my other live polls. That helps poll totals. Finally I have a link on my user page that I previously mentioned, that you list on every poll, that directs people to my name page. I am again satisfying the curiosity of the poll taker and eliminating another step required in making a poll taker feel informed.
Relevancy is subjective. Informing the public who I am is good for relations.
It's sort of like trivia.

So please explain the harm. Promoting myself within the confines of IMDb is what? Bad?
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And by the way if you read Get Satisfactions T.O.S. and Community Guidelines, posting these kinds of items is encouraged. Not just allowed.

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So I ask you, Is harm being done?
Or is it a form of promoting not just myself but all poll makers.
That link that goes to Dan's Blogspot on a redirect has ALL the polls on it. Not just mine.
I see this as a Win Win Win.
Please come up with one item that makes this bad.
Please
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I have removed it for this poll.
But I would like an answer.
Thanks.
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The issue for me is whether the links are relevant to the poll subject, and if not then it's better not to distract from the poll.

As you say, there are automatic links to the poll author's profile, which includes lists, so more links in that direction are not necessary, and the lists can't be voted on. I didn't actually mention the link to your other polls, but usually we only include links to polls on related subjects.
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You have given an opinion. Not a definitive answer.
You say it is a distraction.
Have you ANY data supporting this?
And as far as , "and the lists can't be voted on" portion of your statement, while that may be true, suggestions can be made and interest generated.
And this statement, "but usually we only include links to polls on related subjects", maybe needs a rethink.

I came up with a clever idea and it harms no one. It promotes the polls. The links are related. They are related to the poll maker, the polls themselves and the creation of new polls. It's not that any of these links go outside to my own private website, like facebook, twitter, or anything else. They go directly in house. IMDb links.

Peter I asked you for just on thing that is harmful. Just one.
You have failed to provide any negative here.

Peter, I asked for an answer please.

Are you stating that policy says no?
Are you stating that if I use these internal IMDB links for promotion that those polls will be discarded and never used?
Please advise. Not opine.

I would hate to think that this would be nixed.
I do not want this to escalate to the next level.

Thanks
Ed.


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