Live Face-Off Poll: 'Avengers: Infinity War' vs. 'The Dark Knight'

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Avengers: Infinity War (2018) and The Dark Knight (2008) are the two highest rated superhero movies on IMDb for Marvel and DC, respectively. Both films are among the top 25 films in the IMDb Top 250 and can likely be considered by many as the strongest film of each studio to date.

Which of these two legendary movies is your favorite?

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I haven't seen Avengers: Infinity War yet, but if we compare Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy to the Avengers movies, it's like:

-a carefully arranged and nutritious three-course menu, duly cooked, with some good wine
vs.
-a Big Mac with fries and plastic action figures. Then a Big Mac with fries, extra ketchup, and plastic action figures. Then a Big Mac with fries, extra ketchup, and more plastic action figures.

And I have the uneasy feeling that even the Big Mac is made of plastic.
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I really like Happy Meal toys, but I can certainly at least partially agree with that. My favorite of the Nolan trilogy is probably Batman Begins (2005). While The Dark Knight (2008) was received much more positively, it was the first movie that kicked off the "serious reboot" wave we still see today.
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LOL 10/10 comment Alb... and I agree Yeriomin, a good happy meal toy can definitely give you some food food for thought.. so to speak :)
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I actually really like comparing movies and food: in both cases tastes are ought to be subjective and in cases of some people (me included, in both food and film) may range from fast food to exquisite meals, depending on mood.
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Nikolay,

I like that analogy a lot, especially the end of it. Nicely said all around, I'll have to remember that one!
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I like some fast food too, so maybe the analogy isn't so meaningful :P
But I've actually heard a fan compare Marvel movies to Big Macs.

It's not that I actively hate the Avengers - the movies themselves inspire a Great Indifference in me. But I wonder what the many many people who love them see what I don't see.

For me, the Avengers movies, and more or less the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe (some of the early stuff being a tad more distinct), is like this:

The fights make no creative use of the character's strengths and weaknesses, or of space. Neither are they emotionally involving because they are hardly an organic part of the story (what story?), and no character is really in danger (even if they die, we can be absolutely sure they'll be back in the next installment next summer). And it's also an emotional difference if we see a real actor doing real stunts, or if it's (mostly) CGI figures that punch each other like in a video game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PCtIaM_GQ

The music is (deliberately) generic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs

And no director of the MCU has managed or been allowed to try out anything remotely fresh and unconventional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaQC-S8de8&t=4m47s

(by the way, Every Frame a Painting is a real good channel)

And I find the typical wisecrack-in-an-unappropriate-situation rather lame and annoying than funny, but that's just, like, my opinion.

The attractions of new Marvel movies, as cited by fans, is usually something like, "we will finally see this superhero!" (for thirty seconds), or, "these two beloved superheroes will be in the same frame for three scenes!", where they will exchange wisecracks, punch each other in the stomach once, and forgive each other for destroying whole city blocks. No time for more, because we have 6 or so main heroes and 15 other characters that need some screentime.

And on a subjective level... the Marvel superheroes just don't seem cool to me. My idea of coolness is a character who stays calm and reserved, who is usually the underdog but has some kind of stoic resistance, an emotional upper hand. Someone who doesn't have the biggest magic hammer in the universe, but a car, or maybe a gun with one last shot, or their wits or bare hands. These cool characters are embodied by Bogart to Mifune/McQueen/Eastwood to Harrison Ford, Sigourney Weaver, ... even someone like Isabelle Huppert or Tilda Swinton or Julianne Moore is cool in a way. And Batman, at least as The Dark Knight, is up there, too.

Cool means: less is more. Small subtle gestures, a smirk, a dry remark. Compared to them, the Avengers look like oversized toddlers who sit in a gigantic sandbox and destroy each others' sand castles with plastic excavators... but with lots of greenscreen.

And of course I like many movies that are not nearly as ambitious on an intellectual level as what Christopher Nolan tries to do. But usually, their production costs match the cheapness of their stories, they have a certain individual charm to them and I can root for them like an underdog. See the Jackie Chan movies (mentioned in video no. 1) - they have relatively low budgets, but they are made with care and a sense for the greatest possible effect. With the vast sums of money that Marvel invests, it never goes into a little more time and care to get more out of a scene. The Matrix or Mad Max: Fury Road would be 'big' examples where money isn't a hindrance but a push for creativity when it comes to action.

Whenever there's talk of Marvel, I get the sense that there's tons of stuff that is more suspenseful, funny, surprising, aesthetic, inspiring, original, emotional, or cool.
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Avengers IW
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You're just saying that because you know you'd be on the living side of the postThanos universe. ;-)
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And so will all the rest. If anyone thinks Marvel is going to kill off it’s cash cows like Spider-Man or Black Panther, especially after all the money “The Black Panther” movie just made, (I’ll admit it made feel for the characters, especially the little sister, and it’s villain too), they got to be crazy. Besides, anyone who knows just a little bit of Marvel Comics publishing history, knows that the comic book group fallowed “The Inifinity War” crossover* with the “Infinity gauntlet” and “Infinity Crusade” crossovers. It appears Marvel studios is following, as best as they can with some their characters’ film right still being held by 20th Century Fox and Sony/Columbia, the story arc of the crossovers. Thanos will be back and all the superheroes will return with maybe help from the Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider, the X-Men (including Wolverine), and the Punisher next time as their rights are set to return back to Marvel Studios soon.

* For those who don’t know what a comic book crossover is, it is a sales trick which both DC and Marvel pull every year, especially during the summer, in which they have an epic story, involving thier most popular hero’s, that starts with a special comic and then goes through all their comic book magazines before a 2nd or 3rd special comic tying up the story. So in order to keep track of the story after 1st comic book, you would have to buy a spider-Man comic, then an Iron Man comic and so forth before you buy the final special comic which ends the story. IMHO, The “Avengers: Infinity War” should be considered as a movie Crossover since it did involve Marvel heroes who were not a part of the Avengers team.
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When can we see Prince Namor (Submariner) on big screen with Avengers,or stand alone??
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Soon. Very soon. Since DC and Warner Brothers pulled Aquaman out for Justice Leaque and he is getting his own movie too. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477834/... And https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477834/...
Marvel studios is not going to let that go unanswered. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436803/... He is coming.
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Finally, have yet to even see DC Aquaman & JL.
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No one has seen the Aquaman movie yet since it’s release date is coming this December.
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No question, the dark knight is the better film.
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I've seen Infinity War once and The Dark Knight, a dozen or so times.  Need to see the Avengers movie at least once more before voting.  But for now?  Looks like The Dark Knight will likely keep my faithful vote.

Every time I watch it, I still get goose bumps.
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"The dark knight" will always be the best superhero movie.
I haven't seen Avengers: Infinity War yet, but from the last movies i've seen from the marvel i don't think that will be on the level of "Batman".

For example, people liked Avengers [2012] and Captain America: Civil war [2016] but for me it was a regular movie, i didn't like to much 
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For sure, it'll be interesting to see how the view remains on Infinity War with the passage of time. TDK has certainly stood that test of time.
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From the financial point of view will be the one that gave more profit, from the content point of view never be better than TDK. That's a fact.

Maybe it's because more of a DC fan than a Marvel fan, but that's what I think.
It does not mean that I like all the DC movies, for example I disliked "Man of Steel". I only watched 30 minutes and i was done.
From Marvel i liked "Iron Man 1","Incredible Hulk" and the older "Spider-Man" trilogy.
From DC i liked Watchmen and the "TDK" trilogy, and also V for Vendetta that is not quite the typical superhero movie.
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Dark Knight is a better movie, but I like Infinity War more
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Interesting.. I'd probably go with TDK but IW truly lived up to the gigantic hype IMO; the 2 could very well battle it out for best superhero film ever made so far..
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But TDK is nothing like a superhero film, on the contrary, it's great in the way it deconstructs all the archetypes of the genre, you have a hideous figure who's the one the town deserves and the mastermind out of his mind and the hero who must be hated to give a meaning to his fight, I'm not sure Avengers plays in the same league, well, maybe it's the best superhero film ever, but TDK isn't a superhero film IMO
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You're right that calling it a "superhero" defined film would be a little wrong (it's like the 4th genre I'd classify it as; it's a crime thriller, part neo-noir, part morality tale.. it's just so many things!)
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It's a league of its own but something I've learned recently and also after watching The Thing (John Carpenter's) is that many movies that are panned by the critics get a real afterlife after their release and even their flop and became revered classics in the following decades. 

Same can go for movies that meet with immediate success, I noticed that every good superhero film is enthusiastically praised and considered one of the best of its genre, which is fine for me, but there are so many that fit in this category that I wonder if there's enough room for all these movies to be still remembered say in 20 years, I mean will Wonder Woman, Avengers, Black Panther or even Deadpool be considered as classics or just products of their era?

Success is all relative, if we mean money then yeah, these movies ARE successful but if you look at the highest grossing movies of the 50's, 60's and even the 70's, you'll find many movies that sunk into oblivion or are only known by a few buffs, it's all relative. 
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I think Wonder Woman and Black Panther will stay on top or raise above the other two because they had deeper stories, deeper characters, and definitely served some brain food by going into subjects one can think about like: (Wonder Woman) The Nature Of Man, the difference of how we’re fought from modern times to ancient times (Wonder Woman was wrong there because the generals often stayed in the rear before engaging in the battle and sent the troops on before them), the suffergate movement (the vote). Truth, and fighting for a cause. (Black Panther) morality, tradition, black history (yes, I do remember that part about many jumping off of the slave ship rather than living their lives as slaves), How groups attempt to destroy a conquered society’s culture (I relate that to that Hitler and the Nazis and Goering were doing in Monuments Men When they were stealing the art), greed, and social duty.
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I got to do shorter posts.
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I think, Infinity War rating will come down eventually, while The Dark Night is proved against time. 
I'll go with The Dark Night because I think its better.
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I agree Sil, it's too early to tell if IW will stand the test of time as well as TDK, it'd be hard to do.

Thanks for your input.
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My vote: The Dark Knight

Infinity war will not stay at top for long... It's the over hype that is keeping it at top 10 for now.
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I agree that it's rating will fall, I'd go with TDK as well. Thanks for the input!
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The Dark Knight
(I guess theres no need for explanations)
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Nice, thanks for the vote!
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Avengers: Infinity War (2018) and The Dark Knight (2008)
are the two highest rated superhero movies on IMDb
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You want to update the ratings each week ?

May 9 2018

Avengers: Infinity War  (2018)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4154756/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4154756/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4154756/reviews 2,156 Reviews
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4154756/ratings
277,908 IMDb users have given a weighted average vote of 8.9 / 10

Box Office
Opening Weekend United States $257,698,183, 29 Apr 2018 
Gross United States $461,390,925, 07 May 2018 
Cumulative Worldwide Gross $1,167,710,610, 06 May 2018 
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The Dark Knight  (2008)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/reviews 5,319 Reviews
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/ratings
1,921,848 IMDb users have given a weighted average vote of 9.0 / 10

Box Office
Budget $185,000,000 (estimated) 
Opening Weekend United States $158,411,483, 20 Jul 2008 
Gross United States $534,858,444, 19 Jul 2012 
Cumulative Worldwide Gross $1,004,558,444, 19 Jul 2012



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ACT,

What I will do is hopefully wait until the Infinity War #'s have reached a sufficiently high amount of votes so that the rating/box office numbers have basically plateaued. 
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Not sure about it, both are superhero movies but so different.  Actually i am more a Batman fan but also love Space Sci-Fi and the last movies, Thor: Ragnarok, Balck Panther and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1 & 2 were excellent.  

Nolans Dark Knight ist great without question but many things i dont like in Nolans Batman movies, e.g. how Gotham City looks like, the Batsuit, the plot. The best on Nolans Batman movies were the villains.  

Infinity was a fantastic encounter with a perfect balance of humour, seriousness and sadness.


So my vote goes to Infinity.

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Hey, that city is my city Chicago, Il, USA, with CGI modifications!
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OK, Pete's got the key to the emoji treasure chest..

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ACT_1,
I've had similar problems copying an emoji from Planet Smiles. They disappear after I save the edit.

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ACT_1,
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The fact that two movies are being compared, one with one hero while another containing around 20 major characters which has a universe built from like 15 previous films lasting 10 years old answers the question for me. 
Infinity war is an amazing film no doubt about it, but the Dark knight had only Batman and did not need all the other dc characters to make it a great movie. Christopher Nolan changed the game with The Dark Knight through storytelling, soundtrack, dialogue, and meaning while Infinity war is just an epic movie with every marvel character you can name thrown in.
The Dark knight will never be beaten.
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