Films that are based on book - should we add the title of the book?

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Hi.

This is one of those "let's clarify" questions. If a film is based on a book, should we always add the name of that book? Or is the name of the book only added when the book title is included in the actual credits (with many films, the author of the book is usually added, but not necessarily the name of the actual book)?

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Yes, like in Miracle in Soho (1957)
Emeric Pressburger ... (novel "The Miracle of St. Anthony's Lane")

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So yes to "both" cases (the title of the book is always mentioned, even when it's not added to the actual credits)? One reason why I ask is that recently I added the name (non-English language) of the book, but it was removed by the data editors (the name of the author is now listed with the plain "book" attribute).
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I've always thought that it depends on whether the name of the novel/book/source material is seen in the credits. 
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Hi All -

Just to clarify, we want to capture what is credited in the on-screen credits, so as Nikolay mentioned above, listing the title in the attribute field is dependent on whether or not the book title was displayed in the on-screen credit.  So if the book title was not displayed with the credit, it should not be listed as an attribute.

If you see any instances for titles on the site where a book title is incorrectly displayed as an attribute, please submit the credit correction request to remove the attribute and our staff will take a look.

I hope this helps!
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The writers guide seems to imply it should only be included if the source material is named differently than the Film/TV Show/Whatever.

If the title of the source material is different from the title of the production, that should also be specified. 

I'm with Nikolay in that it really should reflect what is seen on the screen. I recently changed the credit on The Breaking Point (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042281/

from: Ernest Hemingway (novel "To Have and Have Not")

to the actual onscreen credit: Ernest Hemingway (based on the story by)

In general, IMDb seems to want credits to reflect what is onscreen so this would seem like an exception and I have no idea why it would be an exception.
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How do you understand the last part of that paragraph in the guide?

"Note that we have changed the convention for new credits to quote the title."

I was under the impression that they always wanted the title included in new credits.

If not, perhaps that line could be removed.

https://help.imdb.com/article/contrib...
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Peter, 

I take it that at one point, putting the title in quotes was not acceptable, even if it were displayed on screen that way. From the example, from the writers guide, I would expect previously you would list it as:

Anne Fine  (novel Alias Madame Doubtfire)

But now you listed it as:

Anne Fine (novel "Alias Madame Doubtfire")

Again, I think now it would go to what is actually showed onscreen (and I don't have Mrs. Doubtfire to watch.) I bring this up because I just edited T2 Trainspotting and the titles were not in quotes, so I didn't add them. For that movie:

old: Irvine Welsh (novels)
new: Irvine Welsh (based on the books Porno and Trainspotting by)

Neither title was encased in quotes, so I duplicated what was onscreen. (This, of course, still gave a warning because of the presence of the word "and" but that could be dismissed.)
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Hi Peter -

Concerning the line in the guide you pointed out, what Adrian posted above is correct, the title should now be included in quotes when listed in the attribute field.
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Perhaps the phrasing in the guide could be clarified since I find it unclear.
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”from: Ernest Hemingway (novel "To Have and Have Not")

to the actual onscreen credit: Ernest Hemingway (based on the story by)”

How Hemingway is credited in the actual credits? Does it says ”based on...”?

If it says ”novel”, then ”(based on the story)” is probably not the ideal way. It should be simply ”(novel)” or ”(book)”.

Writing credits can be tricky. That’s why we should be extra careful how to add them.
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It's interesting that you quoted me where I actually said how the credit was on screen but still had a question of how it was credited on screen:

to the actual onscreen credit: Ernest Hemingway (based on the story by)

I never thought this section was very difficult until I started reading this thread. :D
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Yes, I should’ve read your post again before posting, sorry. But I usually comment more at a general level anyway.