For a End-of-Year Poll Suggestion: Your Best Discovery of 2017?

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2017 is coming to an end and you've probably watched a few hundred movies this year, my question is: what did you discover in 2017 - that you never saw before - and that you would recommend to other IMDb users, here are the "rules":

- no TV series because it's not about binge-watching and users are likely to know the show anyway
- a set of films you've discovered specifically in 2017
- at least 6 movies
- if it's not related to an actor or a director's work, it's okay if you've already seen a few movies before
- suggest as many options as you want

For instance, mine would be:
- Hayao Miyazaki's movies : all of them
- Michael Apted's "Up" documentary: the eight episodes
- French movies of the 30's: César, Fanny, Marius, La Chienne, Boudu Sauvés des Eaux, La Bandera, Gueule d'Amour, Quai des Brumes, Le Jour se Lèves, Les Bas Fonds, Drôle de Drame, Pépé le Moko, Hôtel du Nord

The "Up" documentary is really a must-see.
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I thought Malle's film was called Elevator to the Gallows, quite a film, right? Did you see it after the passing of Jeanne Moreau?

if you feel like you can put many movies in one category (like 50's French Film Noir or Political Cinema of the 70's) it would be cool, but depending on the replies I get, I might change the 'rules' for that poll :)
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Ah, Elevator to the Gallows - what a film!
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Nice idea, but I think 6 movies is to much. Maybe it’s easier when people can mention one movie. I think you will get more reactions and it makes the poll better (easier to read).
My discovery is: The Best Years of Our Lives (1946).
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I understand but the initial purpose wasn't to ask about the one movie we loved more than any other. Yes, it stands for a 'discovery' but it's not a very original question and what I wanted was to find the closest to binge-watching some of us have done for something else than a TV series.

The way I see it, when you watch like 200 or 300 movies in a year, there's always a moment where you're marathonning through something, you watch your first Herzog movie, you want to see the other, you've always avoided Roger Moore's James Bond movies but after his passing, you saw one and then all the others, you never cared for French movies but then you saw a Gabin movie and start watching French classics of the 50's. Just examples.

And even if you don't go through some Marathon, when you've seen hundreds of movie, you can find a common denominator between at least 5 or 6. I remember when I saw The Best Years of Our Lives, it was a week where I decided to see all the old Best Picture winners.
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ElM,

Off the top of my head: Queen Victoria may have been much more charming and engaging than history would lead you to believe.

Obviously, I will have to give your suggestion a lot more thought
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Huh?
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Elmo, I hope you stay with us in 2018 :)

And I hope I got the answer right this time and the results aren't too skewed.

Louis Malle
: Elevator to the Gallows, The Lovers, Zazie, The Fire Within, Lacombe Lucien, Black Moon, My Dinner With André, Milou in May

Classic (outisde or pre-Nouvelle Vague) French movies, most from the 1930s, or starring Michel Simon, often both: Boudu, Port of Shadows, The Rules of the Game, La Poison, War of the Buttons, The Old Man and the Child.

study-related, the heavily political and didactical "New German cinema" of the 1960s-70s, including movies by Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Margarethe von Trotta, and Alexander Kluge. However, I became more intrested in the Outsiders of that movement, who were marginalized by their contemporaries: Werner Herzog and Roland Klick.

Bette Davis - admittedly she is bigger than most of her movies: Hell's House, Of Human Bondage, Dark Victory, The Letter, Now Voyager, The Bride came C.O.D., Mr. Skeffington, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?, The Nanny
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It's not that I don't want to stay, but it's precisely because of this poll that I realized they screwed up the reviews' sorting system.

I wanted to see the movies I saw this year and I found out the format was totally different than the one we used to have and now you can't even filter reviews in chronological order or with love/hate criteria.

They said they're gonna fix it for 2018, but the harm was done, I just lost the "interest", I'm tired of seeing all IMDb features being removed one by one... I needed to take a few steps back and wait to see what awaits us in 2018, and wishing for the best!
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To be honest, I feel a little similar about losing interest, for slightly different reasons... It's as if the world wanted to show us that our passion, movie-watching, discussing, reviewing, all the experience, is a waste of time. I don't even know if my interests and talents have any value "out there" in real life, but at least for the time being, it felt as if it mattered a little bit on the poll board.

One other little decision made by indifferent authorities, from IMDb, Amazon or whatever, and all the polls or reviews might be gone, and all of us users gone with the wind, with no connection to each other.
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Exactly, I can understand that these decisions make sense from an economical perspective, but they just forgot that there's a core of users who also used IMDb as a source of individual fulfillment and all these analyses on message boards/ polls and/or reviews were also about us wanting to be part of IMDb's history, to make a contribution, something with a modest durability value.

But no, the poll history was gone, then the message boards, now the review system...  we're like the eggs they break to make their omelets... and I'm just tired of reading that word "customer" in every official response.

We used to be users, right? Why are they selling out like this?! 
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I have a feeling that as tight-knit as we are in our poll board or among the users of the former message boards, we're probably a tiny majority, and most people are fine with being customers. I read a post by someone who suggested IMDb could become some sort of extended movie preview which they have for Amazon Prime. Look at the rating and the data, and that's all you need.

It's the spirit of our times, we're not individual people who express their opinions, we're numbers. Here's a recent article by Martin Scorsese in the same vein: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/martin-scorsese-rotten-tomatoes-box-office-obsession-why-moth...

And how fitting My Dinner with André is up there in the list... Some real talk, a real conversation between two human beings, that was something special in 1981 already.
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ElM and Albstein,

I hope you stay, but I fully understand that you feel abandoned by the powers that be at IMDb and Amazon.

I also strongly dislike losing the original IMDb poll history, the message boards and character lists, along with major modifications to the review systems, lists and other features. I hope that IMDb retains the polls, but there is never any guarantee. The loss of the message boards led to a reduction in the participation in polls.
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That was a great read, thanks for sharing this (but the Logan director picture below  gave me the creeps!!!)

You're probably right, it's all about facts and numbers and judgments over these facts and numbers... it's not symptomatic of IMDb but it's a global trend that is integral to our narcissistic and judgmental world. Even one's popularity is defined by the number of likes on Facebook, it's crazy.
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The more stay and contribute here, the more it feels that we still have something to hold on. Most of us regulars have more people to talk to about movies on the internet than in real life, so it's the best compromise.
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You should check a website called Letterboxd. It's perhaps the closest concept to IMDb... that allows you to talk about movies.
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Also, the front page poll stays longer and longer. It used to be there for around 5 days, but the last two have been kept for 7 at least. I suppose they keep it there until they reach certain number of votes. But I have insisted and keep at it, that not changing the poll people sees there, makes people less eager to further explore the sections.

On the old days when front page polls were changed daily, you got at least 10,000 votes on a single day. tThey should aim to get back at that, even if at first the front page polls get less votes than usual.

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Elm I'm having problems understanding what exactly it is that you want. Could you start the list so maybe that would help me "get it"?
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Just like the "Up" series, we've talked about it, it's like binge-watching something that is not a classic TV series but a group of films or documentaries, either from the same director, or belonging to the same category. 

Example: in 2017, I saw for the first time 6 or 7 Italian neo-realist classics
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in 2017, I finally discovered Tarkovsky's work
or 
in 2017, I discovered French cinema of the 30's
or
in 2917, I discovered Louis Malle
or
in 2017, I saw all the Best Picture winners of the 30's


In 2017, I discovered Nashville but it doesn't work, it has to be a "set" of movies, a group you've decided to binge-watch
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Aha. Nothing I watched last year falls under a 6-film connection. Good idea though.
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I can make it down to 5 :)
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I hope I'm giving you what you want for this. If not, let me know and I can come up with something else.

I discovered the work of director Sean Baker. I saw Tangerine first and then went to see The Florida Project, not realizing it was the same director. I fell completely in love with The Florida Project so I watched the following of his films:

The Florida Project (2017) (already mentioned)
Tangerine  (2015) (again) 
Starlet (2012)
Prince of Broadway (2008)

I couldn't access his other films. That's only four and I know you said six but I can't think of another six connected films that I discovered and watched this year. 

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I also saw the Turkish film, Kedi (2017), and I developed a watch-list of modern Turkish cinema but have only seen one, so far. 

'Good idea, by the way, ElMo. I hope you'll be around this year. I would really miss you if you weren't on here anymore. 
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I'll try to be around but with all these recent changes on IMDb, it's getting harder and harder to maintain the same level of dedication... especially when the upgrades affect the work you've done before, which makes you feel like you've just wasted your time. 
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Wind River (2017)
Harold and Maude (1971
The Greatest Showman (2017)
The Room (2003)
Masters of the Universe (1987) 
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I never really binge watched anything or made some kind of festival. I always watch movies in a title for title basis, and I try to see things quite different from each other.

But, looking at the over 160 films I saw last year, I found that three of those that had the bigger impact on Me have a theme in common. They have women fighting against the roles assigned to them by society. So I guess that could be a common theme, which also fits the world events of last year quite well.

Those movies were:

Albert Nobbs (2011), 19th century women forced to pose as men in order to get a work and make a living.

I am Najoom, 10 years old, divorced (2014), a true story of a 10 year old in Yemen who was forcefully married and then fight for her divorce

Una familia de tantas (1949), my favourite, considered to be one of the best Mexican movies of all history, it is about the daughter of a family that faces her father and marries for love with a man he rejects. It was the first film from the country showing a woman outside their traditional roles.

In order to reach the six film requirement (altought they did not had such an impact, I could add

Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (2018), where all the title characters, both Professor Marston and the women fight for the right to live their privacy and sexuality as they please.   

Brave Miss World (2013), Documentary about a former Miss World who denounced the rape she suffered.

Hidden Figures (2016), about the pioneer black women working at NASA


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Just curious to Elm or anyone else... How do you guys get access to so many movies? Like you decide to see any of your examples from above - 30s French cinema, Italian neo-realists, etc... How do you get access to all those titles?
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My sources:
Before I went to France, I could get any movie I wanted in Morocco, I can't tell much about the "how" but at the end I collected no less than 1000 movies and there might be 200 movies in some dusty boxes I still haven't watched
Then in France:
I have a media library next to the house, every week, I can take like 6 DVD, and they all go from old classics to the 2010's
Streaming:
Some movies I couldn't get in the library or in Morocco, so I had to find them on Streaming like Altman's Nashville or the documentary Crumb
And lately, Netflix.
Wth Netflix, you can watch like two classics every day :)
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-My personal DVD collection (for example, all Louis Malle films come from one box)

-Amazon Prime (although that's more for newer movies, they don't have many older ones)

-TV (especially recordings)

-Youtube (seldom of course, but there are some interesting movies in acceptable quality)

There are still many movies that I miss this way. If Elmo says Netflix is good for classics, I may give it a try.
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Elm, did you pick your house based on the location? 

With Netflix, do you have digital or DVDs? 'Cause the Netflix digital I have sucks for older stuff.
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Nah, it's just a small town :)
I think it's digital, but what's wrong with the old stuff? it looks that bad?
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Netflix here in Mexico is so limited in classics, I envy you
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Yeah. Not saying the classics are not good quality, but that they aren't on Netflix. Old movies aren't an option. I think it probably has something to do with licensing in different countries...