How do I delete a credit if I don't have proof that it isn't factual?

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I am trying to delete a few credits of films that were wrongfully added to my page for years, with the request being denied every time. I understand you need proof that the credit isn't factual, but if I did not appear in these films then how am I to have proof that I wasn't in them? I have gotten credits removed in the past, so I don't understand why these few are giving me a problem. 
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Screengrabs of the titles end credits in question sans your participation is all that is required. Unless they are uncredited. Then it is almost impossible.
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What if I don't have access to the films?
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They have me listed as credited so I figured I would be able to use my word as a personal, factual source to tell IMDb that I was not in them.
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By the way Ed Jones, I never vandalized your page, and anyone who has the power to look at my contribution history can verify that. So please, whoever here can see my contribution history, please do something about this, as I don't appreciate Ed Jones accusing me of something which I did not do, and which can be proven that I did not do.
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That Ed Jones (XXI) page is clearly a vandalized page. Let's take a look at his credits.
1. Hong Kong Taxi
Here's the link on IMDb that shows "Hong Kong Taxi":
https://vimeo.com/32726207
If you look under the video it says music and images by Ed Jones / AFP. I looked him up and found two pictures of him.

This picture is taken from this article that he wrote about Hong Kong Taxi:
https://www.newsshooter.com/2012/06/26/a-timelapse-taxi-ride-through-hong-kong-shot-with-gopro-and-5...

Here's another picture of him:

You see? Ed Jones / AFP. This ED Jones is CLEARLY not the person who made the "Cosby Speaks by Cliff E" youtube video. That was an African-American man.

Also, another credit on this Ed Jones (XXI) page lists the title "Walking. Here's the link on IMDb that shows "Walking":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZZSm-DdOJA
And here's a picture of this particular Ed Jones:


This Ed Jones is a singer and he also has music on Spotify which can be found here:
https://open.spotify.com/album/4T6K5ZJXNQcrtB4xvc3N7z

Here's another picture of this Ed Jones singer:


Here's the "Ed Jones" who apparently created the video called "Cosby Speaks by Cliff E"


Obviously all three credits on Ed Jones (XXI's) IMDb are NOT from the same Ed Jones. One of them is a young white guy, another is an old African-American man, and another is a younger African-American man. There is no way that "Cosby Speaks by Cliff E" was created by a man named Ed Jones, UNLESS it is Ed Jones (XLIX) on these forums. They are both named Ed Jones, and according to IMDb Cliff E is actually named Ed Jones. And the Ed Jones on these forums also goes by the name E Cliff Jonz which you can see in his bio here:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8529286/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

So if Ed Jones (XLIX), who is the Ed Jones who posts on these forums, is not the Cliff E from youtube, then he or someone he knows is vandalizing the Ed Jones (XXI) page. I think the most likely scenario is that someone has a vendetta against the Ed Jones from these boards and added a couple credits to his page to mess with him, and once Ed Jones found out about it, he moved them to a different Ed Jones page. And I think this other Ed Jones really did create a video called "Hong Kong Taxi" but then Ed Jones (XLIX) moved two other credits to that guy's page, which is clearly VANDALIZING an innocent person's page.
IMDb should so something about this. All it took was a few minutes of research and I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the Ed Jones (XXI) IMDb page has been messed with. Regardless of which Ed Jones the Ed Jones (XXI) belongs to, all three of those titles were created by different people.

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Good research. Incomplete research. I did not move the credit. An Employee did it.
My contention was the same as yours. A falsely created video was made by someone who was having an issue removing a credit, and thought that they would be smart and put a bogus credit on my page to make me go through the frustration of try to remove it to teach me some false lesson. As you can see if a request to remove a false credit is swift, not delayed by months or years, it is quickly removed. IMDb made the decision to move it. I just said OK. Makes NO sense to argue with the decision made by staff. I always defer to their wisdom.
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/an-attempt-to-vandalize-gs-user-imdb-page-with-a-title-addit...



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Moving those credits to another Ed Jones page makes no sense. Why would they belong to another Ed Jones? The guy's name is Cliff E. The only thing that makes sense would be to make a page called Cliff E and add the Cosby video to it. The fact that you are fine with another Ed Jones page being vandalized is just as bad as your own page being vandalized. Why on earth would anyone think that Cliff E from YouTube is also named Ed Jones? Don't you think it's too much of a coincidence that both you and that guy are named Ed Jones while having the alternate name of Cliff E or E Cliff? There are only two possibilities:

1: You are the Cliff E from YouTube and didn't want that Cosby video listed to your page. Or...
2: You requested that the Cosby video be deleted or moved and it was moved to another Ed Jones page that already existed. There is no evidence whatsoever that Cliff E from YouTube is also known as Ed Jones.

That Cosby Cliff E video wasn't a falsely made video in order to mess with your page. That video was uploaded in 2015. According to the link that MAthePA gave above, a disgruntled person added those credits to your page two months ago, proving that the video wasn't created for the purpose of messing with your page.

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proving that the video wasn't created for the purpose of messing with your page.

No but it was used to.

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Bobby, IMDb is cautious when deleting credits. Sometimes there’s a person with the same (or very similar name) and the credits should be moved under a new name. Then there are cases where people want to remove ”unwanted” credits and can be rather vague about the reasons.


Sometimes (note: generally speaking) people don’t even want to admit that, in fact, they’re credited (which, for IMDb, makes the credits ”factual”), so they use the terms like ”I was not actually on the film” or ”I was mistakenly added to the credits” or ”I was on the set, but didn’t do any work”. That may very well be true, but if the name is on the actual credits, it can be difficult to remove it from IMDb.


My advice is to explain very clearly about the history of every credit (that people would like remove). If people don’t want to post certain info to this (public) forum, they can use the IMDb help desk:

https://help.imdb.com/contact
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