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How do I make sure that the most prominent titles in my filmography show up in the "Known for" section?
Right now I have films with not nearly as much popularity showing up in the "Known for" section of my page while a film which has become a media sensation doesn't even show up there. I would imagine the media sensation film is getting a lot more IMDb page hits.
Right now I have films with not nearly as much popularity showing up in the "Known for" section of my page while a film which has become a media sensation doesn't even show up there. I would imagine the media sensation film is getting a lot more IMDb page hits.
Posted 7 years ago
Peter, Champion
Then the parameters of the automatic selection should be changed. It's as easy as setting it to list the top 3 highest imdb rated items on the list.
DavidAH_Ca, Champion
Darla,
There is no need to apologize. There was an error on my part. I forgot to check the User Name, so I replied to your message as if it were form the OP.
The basic information in my reply is still correct, except for the last paragraph, and the tense in the first paragraph. I apologize for any misunderstanding this error caused.
There is no need to apologize. There was an error on my part. I forgot to check the User Name, so I replied to your message as if it were form the OP.
The basic information in my reply is still correct, except for the last paragraph, and the tense in the first paragraph. I apologize for any misunderstanding this error caused.
DavidAH_Ca, Champion
WIlliam:
I am sorry you felt that my reply was hostile; it certainly was not intended that way.
As I noted in a reply to Darla, I missed the fact that her comment was from a different person, not you. Because that reply totally ignored the complex algorithm that is explained in the item I linked, I assumed that you had probably missed the one-word text link to that particular page, and so I supplied the direct link as well as copying the section I was referring to.
The Subject Line of the primary thread is shown at the top of the window as (it seems to me) a title. I was referring to the text :
Since the Known For section was implemented on the base system people have been requesting changes to the items shown in that section, many of them explicitly stating that they don't best show off their latest work. My last paragraph was indicating that while IMDb provides the Resume Servise to allow the person named in the page to promote themselves with both the Resume page and the pictures they can upload, the Known For section is not intended for that, so IMDb will not change the system to allow the person named to choose.
Once again I apologize if my error on the posters or my wording came across as hostile; it was certainly not intended that way.
I am sorry you felt that my reply was hostile; it certainly was not intended that way.
As I noted in a reply to Darla, I missed the fact that her comment was from a different person, not you. Because that reply totally ignored the complex algorithm that is explained in the item I linked, I assumed that you had probably missed the one-word text link to that particular page, and so I supplied the direct link as well as copying the section I was referring to.
The Subject Line of the primary thread is shown at the top of the window as (it seems to me) a title. I was referring to the text :
How to best use the "Known for" section of one's profileI assumed you wished to publicize or promote the items you feel would best show your work. This is neither a put-down nor is it hostile; it is a recognition of the facts of the profession. Virtually every actor and director (superstars excepted) needs to promote themselves in order to get future work; it is part ot the job. (It is also necessary for any professional who works on short-term contracts, rather than as a full-time emplyee.)
Since the Known For section was implemented on the base system people have been requesting changes to the items shown in that section, many of them explicitly stating that they don't best show off their latest work. My last paragraph was indicating that while IMDb provides the Resume Servise to allow the person named in the page to promote themselves with both the Resume page and the pictures they can upload, the Known For section is not intended for that, so IMDb will not change the system to allow the person named to choose.
Once again I apologize if my error on the posters or my wording came across as hostile; it was certainly not intended that way.
(Edited)
David:
Yes, naturally I do wish to publicize the titles which best represent my work in the "Known For" section. I was responding to this comment you made at the end of your initial post where it at first sounded to me (because of the tone of the beginning of the your first reply) like you were accusing me of mentioning the title of my project in the title of the thread. Now I see that you're saying that it is set up as an aid to users, "not as a way to promote your work." Should I note that? Really? Let's be realistic. Everyone knows that having your most popular work for the "highest" (I take issue with this word but I think it gets the meaning across) position in the "Known For" section makes it immediately prominently displayed for anyone seeing your page. Whether it's intended as an aid over promotion is almost nonsensical to me. It is an aid because it is promotion. In this world of incredible media bombardment, people's attention spans are understandably fickle so it naturally helps to have that work in the most easily viewable places (the "Know For" section). As you put it yourself, self-promotion is extremely important in this industry. Won't the user looking at someone's page be aided by seeing the most popular titles for that person's most prominent positions? Do most users initially who are learning about someone care more that James Cameron created visual effects matte paintings on BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS or that he directed ALIENS? I'm fascinated by all of it, but most probably want to know about latter first. Iron Jim might also like movie lovers new to his work to know the latter first as well. If you look at his page, the imdb algorithm seems to agree with me there. This would also be the case for my page: The more prominent projects in bigger crew positions in the "Known For" section please. In other words, the user aid is promotion for whoever's page it is. They're not mutually exclusive.
With regards to your paragraph about imdb not changing the "Known For" system: Again, my point is that I've read about how the system should work, but unfortunately, it does not appear to be working that way for me. I worked on a project in a more prominent position and by fortune it became very popular. It shows up in the "Known For" section on many if not all of my co-workers pages who have it listed. However, it does not show up in mine. Instead, three of the four "Known For" poster slots have much less popular projects for a crew position which would be considered beneath the one I had on the more popular project. In other words, again, maybe the algorithm is not working the way it is supposed to on my page if I'm understanding it correctly/completely. I would love to speak to an imdb employee to whom I could privately (I'm shy) show examples of this.
The reason I misread your last sentence in the first message was that I was frustrated by your tone at the beginning of your post where you are speaking to me/Darla in the tone of "...if you had read..." and "you would have seen that it is far more complex than that." It is a bit hostile and rather condescending isn't it? Now I understand from your message above that you made a mistake and thought what Darla posted was from me. Ok, but what if Darla did read it and didn't understand it, or what if I had not understood? Or what if it was someone else and the person speaking was elderly and new to this? Please do consider that not everyone here has such facility with using the getsatisfaction.com system or imdb as you do. Some people on here, young, middle aged, elderly, don't have facility (yet) with certain technologies or certain applications, so we should all be sensitive to that. After all, they're simply looking for help, as am I. Let's help each other out.
That said, perhaps now someone can delete this entire thread? I'm not sure it's going to be too helpful to anyone else at this point.
I do believe you were trying to help. I appreciate your apology. It sounded sincere.
Peace in the Middle East,
William
Yes, naturally I do wish to publicize the titles which best represent my work in the "Known For" section. I was responding to this comment you made at the end of your initial post where it at first sounded to me (because of the tone of the beginning of the your first reply) like you were accusing me of mentioning the title of my project in the title of the thread. Now I see that you're saying that it is set up as an aid to users, "not as a way to promote your work." Should I note that? Really? Let's be realistic. Everyone knows that having your most popular work for the "highest" (I take issue with this word but I think it gets the meaning across) position in the "Known For" section makes it immediately prominently displayed for anyone seeing your page. Whether it's intended as an aid over promotion is almost nonsensical to me. It is an aid because it is promotion. In this world of incredible media bombardment, people's attention spans are understandably fickle so it naturally helps to have that work in the most easily viewable places (the "Know For" section). As you put it yourself, self-promotion is extremely important in this industry. Won't the user looking at someone's page be aided by seeing the most popular titles for that person's most prominent positions? Do most users initially who are learning about someone care more that James Cameron created visual effects matte paintings on BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS or that he directed ALIENS? I'm fascinated by all of it, but most probably want to know about latter first. Iron Jim might also like movie lovers new to his work to know the latter first as well. If you look at his page, the imdb algorithm seems to agree with me there. This would also be the case for my page: The more prominent projects in bigger crew positions in the "Known For" section please. In other words, the user aid is promotion for whoever's page it is. They're not mutually exclusive.
With regards to your paragraph about imdb not changing the "Known For" system: Again, my point is that I've read about how the system should work, but unfortunately, it does not appear to be working that way for me. I worked on a project in a more prominent position and by fortune it became very popular. It shows up in the "Known For" section on many if not all of my co-workers pages who have it listed. However, it does not show up in mine. Instead, three of the four "Known For" poster slots have much less popular projects for a crew position which would be considered beneath the one I had on the more popular project. In other words, again, maybe the algorithm is not working the way it is supposed to on my page if I'm understanding it correctly/completely. I would love to speak to an imdb employee to whom I could privately (I'm shy) show examples of this.
The reason I misread your last sentence in the first message was that I was frustrated by your tone at the beginning of your post where you are speaking to me/Darla in the tone of "...if you had read..." and "you would have seen that it is far more complex than that." It is a bit hostile and rather condescending isn't it? Now I understand from your message above that you made a mistake and thought what Darla posted was from me. Ok, but what if Darla did read it and didn't understand it, or what if I had not understood? Or what if it was someone else and the person speaking was elderly and new to this? Please do consider that not everyone here has such facility with using the getsatisfaction.com system or imdb as you do. Some people on here, young, middle aged, elderly, don't have facility (yet) with certain technologies or certain applications, so we should all be sensitive to that. After all, they're simply looking for help, as am I. Let's help each other out.
That said, perhaps now someone can delete this entire thread? I'm not sure it's going to be too helpful to anyone else at this point.
I do believe you were trying to help. I appreciate your apology. It sounded sincere.
Peace in the Middle East,
William
(Edited)
Anybody know if the algorithm for 'best known for' can be changed to exclude 'voice' acting? I think that would be a great improvement.
Peter, Champion
Except for people who are known for voice acting.
