imdb doesnt seem to accept pdf and contracts validating uncredited role.

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I have submitted a credit addition with uncredited at the end, along with this letter i obtained by email through the production company responsible for this production:

[Link to Adobe acrobat file redacted since it exposed personal information.]

Also have the release contract i signed for them.

I would simply like to know if that suffices. just trying to get this credit and i contacted them asking for help and they granted me that

I tried to submit this link through the contribution:

190408-221241-742000

but there was no option to do that.

Thank you
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Hi, Mannie:
I would simply like to know if that suffices.
Nope. To receive an (uncredited) cast entry, proving that you were contracted is not enough. You must be featured on screen.

See: I worked on a title but did not receive a screen credit. Can it be listed on IMDb?

Therefore, you must provide a screenshot from the FlashForward episode where you are visible. Fortunately, the episode can be found online easily.

Hope it helps.
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When submitting documentation, screen grabs and so forth, where do i do that in editing and submitting the contribution? it doesnt provide any option when submitting credits so where can we do that?
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wow thanks for telling me to piss off in a very delicate way.

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Hi Jesse -

Thanks for posting the image URL, the episode cast credit you requested has been forwarded to our data editors and, if approved, should appear online with the next available update of our servers. Cheers!

this is how other actors are treated!


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thanks for telling me to piss off in a very delicate way
Wow... I acknowledge my limitations because English is not my first language (sorry for that), but you should have a serious problem of emotional intelligence when you don't comprehend why the person who's trying to help you understand why your credit isn't being accepted (and is explaining the only way you could fix it), decides to give up after hearing you complaining that nobody gives a shit about you and leveling accusations of discrimination.


this is how other actors are treated!
Sorry again, but what you definitely have is a serious problem of reading comprehension. You failed to read (or understand) my first post in its entirety and now you're doing it again to play a false victim card. Why don't you post all the info?



Signing off...
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thanks for telling me to piss off in a very delicate way
Wow... I acknowledge my limitations because English is not my first language (sorry for that), but you should have a serious problem of emotional intelligence when you don't comprehend why the person who's trying to help you understand why your credit isn't being accepted (and is explaining the only way you could fix it), decides to give up after hearing you complaining that nobody gives a shit about you and leveling accusations of discrimination.


this is how other actors are treated!
Sorry again, but what you definitely have is a serious problem of reading comprehension. You failed to read (or understand) my first post in its entirety and now you're doing it again to play a false victim card. Why don't you post all the info?



Signing off...
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I'm done with this chat clearly aside from insulting me and attacking me in all forms, i have for numerous times indicated that i have the documentation necessary to prove it and like many others actors it seems i didnt end up showing up on screen, but they still used me and i signed with a contract, so despite your grammatical attacks calling me emotional which is beyond ridiculou and direspectful.

Anyways its obvious your intentions is to make people in general feel like utter idiots, yet i acknowledge THE IMPORTANT OF SHOWING A SCREEN GRAB OR IMAGE YET i have stated clearly it seems i wasnt shown, happens to many people in general yet i have the contract which AGAIN stated by imdb suffices to prove my association to the episode.

and then i have you coming in insulting and attacking me,when i stated discarding emotional involvement since thats amateur behavior, is stated nobody gives a shit because clearly even presenting documentation imdb still decides to reject me.

OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION AND CONTRACT INVOLVING MY PARTICIPATION
AND ACTORS SOMETIMES DO NOT SHOW UP ON SCREEN.

FINAL CUT in the editing room, HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, at least 3 actors i the last jedi were cut out, tom hardy and the girl from the originals were cut out from the editing room..

So rather than grammatically bullying actors on this forum, have some sense of RESPECT and EDUCATIONAL MORALS to help rather than telling me off and indirectly calling me a child...
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I'm not emotionally involved at all yet simply trying to get what im entitled to yet think as you wish, thankfully im a professional actor who is simply trying to rectify this situation, you are welcome to insult, disrespect me and attack me all you want.

again i was involved in this production:
[links to images file redacted since they contain personal information.]

i was clearly cut out in the editing room, but still paid to act and signed a contract with them and everything is here in the images.

I would appreciate if imdb, considered this documents, note i was clearly cut out of the editing room, happens all the time and i cannot control the editors.

but i have everything official from the company.

so can someone please review this please.
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Can a staffer please edit these posts: #1, #2, #3 to remove personal private info (telephone, address...) that shouldn't be publicly visible?


Mannie, I think you've taken the term emotional intelligence the wrong way (actually the opposite what was intended: identify and manage one’s own emotions, as well as the emotions of others)... If you really believe that I intended to attack you, I sincerely apologize, but you're playing a wrong game when you say things like "maybe because I'm a foreigner" or "southern approach to races" to express a disagreement with a longstanding policy... That's very offensive, and, let me say, a bit childish. In any case, I'm sorry if you felt that way...
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Dr. ljdoncel,

Thank you for identifying links to personal information. I redacted those links and left a note in each of the post to that effect.
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Thank you very much, Dan.
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Dear Sir i was raisedin a multi ethnic region in europe, so for me everyone is the same, well just saying the way you addressed made me feel that way, because im a foreigner maybe you had a problem who knows, i have no idea. it is indeed offensive, im a foreigner from a comnunity of british, americans and portuguese and south americans in europe so i come from an international community and treat others the same way i would want them to treat me.

i mentioned south because its known of the UNFORTUNATE and major SAD racial differences existing over there, mainly in GA where its extremely noticeable but anyways im not here to talk about that because for me everyone is the same, we are all humans.

So mr ljdoncel, since you work for imdb, can you please assist me on this matter, would u be so kind and generous to acknowledge my situation and help me. talk to imdb, again have posted all the sensitive personal information in public and indeed admitted most likely the editors have indeed cut me out in the editing room.

so could you please assist me?

but you have SEEN the contract, and proof of employment and the letter.

in your heart please help me the same way you would want someone to help you if you were in my situation.

thank you
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MC,

For an actor or other performers who appear on screen:

Case 1: Person's name appears in credits for the title and the person's name appears on screen.
IMDb includes name in credits

Case 2: Person has credits for for at least one other title. Person's name DOES NOT appears in credits for the title and the person appears on screen.
IMDb includes name in credits with the attribute "(uncredited)"

Case 3: Person has credits for for at least one other title. Person's name appears in credits for the title and the person DOES NOT appears on screen.
IMDb includes name in credits with the attribute "(credit only)"

Case 4: Person DOES NOT have credits for for at least one other title. Person's name DOES NOT appears in credits for the title and the person appears on screen.
IMDb DOES NOT credit person

Case 5: Person has credits for for at least one other title. Person's name DOES NOT appears in credits for the title and the person's name DOES NOT appear on screen.
IMDb DOES NOT credit person

From what I can tell from reviewing this thread and after reviewing the PDF file you provided:
1. You are credited for other titles.
Mannie De Castro
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4293173/
2. Your name DOES NOT appear in credits for the title
3. You do not appear on screen for
Flashforward (TV Series) Revelation Zero: Part 1 (2010)

It appears that Case 5 applies to you and that IMDb will not credit you for this episode. The contract information you provide is NOT sufficient for you to IMDb to credit you.

Get Satisfaction is a public forum. Everything you post on Get Satisfaction is available via a Google, Bing or other search engine search.

Please consider that you've exposed the phone number for the producer for Flashforward linking to the Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file.

Please note: people with the Champion designation are knowledgeable trusted users. They are not staff members.
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Understood
Thanks for the help
May I request someone to remove the personal information I have exposed in those documents?

Can someone staffer over there remove that info?
The links attached above please
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MC,

Although I am not a staff member, I have limited admin rights.

I edited your original post to remove the link to the Adobe acrobat file. If you are aware of other links that expose personal information, please post in this thread.
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MC,

Dr. ljdoncel identified three of your posts that have links to files with personal information. I redacted the links and left a note to that effect in each post.

If you know of other your posts in this thread or another thread that contains personal information, I would be happy to redact those posts as appropriate.

Staff members and Champions with admin rights can still review the history of this thread and see the links

Get Satisfaction (GS) is a public forum. GS provides a means to help with problems that do not require personal information.

For future reference, when you need to contact staff members privately, please use the contact form:
https://help.imdb.com/contact
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I did contact 5 times and do you know what happened? they completelely ignored me, you have the screengrab up there and see for yourself.

i submitted those documents and instead of talking to me they literally ignored me didnt they?

read their response....nothing regarding my documents at least.

See nothing just ignoring me...no response just throwing me away...

Not much help right?
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Mannie,
they completelely ignored me, you have the screengrab up there and see for yourself.
Not true. The message you've received is clearly telling you what we (three different regular contributors so far) are trying to make you understand: Your FlashForward credit doesn't satisfy IMDb's acceptance criteria...



You're not being ignored... You're having responses... The problem is you don't like them and you keep on refusing to acknowledge that the documents you've provided only confirm Q1, not Q5 (see scheme above).
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Could someone close this thread. thank you
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Could someone close this thread. thank you
Wow, now I see that while I was trying to improve your chances of getting your credit accepted with a better screenshot (see below), you are asking this...

Ok... Good luck.
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Could someone close this thread. thank you
Wow, now I see that while I was trying to improve your chances of getting your credit accepted with a better screenshot (see below), you are asking this...

Ok... Good luck.
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nothing of the sort ljdoncel, Champion
im sorry if you took it in the wrong way, just thanking u deeply from the heart, i thought u had gone and helped other people :)

you are fantasic, bless your heart and soul for your excellence.

thank you deeply
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Nikolay Yeriomin wrote:
ljdoncel, I'd say that the chart is a proof that instruments are far less relevant then the skills: I was not able to guess which program you have used and if that's your "hastily" I'm really curious as to what is your "careful and well-planned", because that ought to be something grandiose. :)
I fully agree!
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Mannie,
ljdoncel and Ed Jones thank you for all the info and help
You're very welcome.

i did as instructed guess have to wait until monday
One of the first things you have to learn when dealing with problems on is to be patient. They have thousands of inquiries every day that ought to be attended by a limited staff, so please stop complaining that you're being ignored... Sooner or later you'll receive an official answer from the Helpdesk (either on Monday or the coming days).

this is all true and i was in fact part of the production

show contracts from the company

they have records of playing the character. letter and contract plus they cut out my dialogue scene since it was a very small budget
Please re-read carefully what we've told you before several times (see the graphic with the blue location marker). Those documents won't change anything. We all already know for sure that you worked in the production (Q1). What matters in the end is if you were featured on screen in the final cut of the film (first requirement). Footage that was left in the cutting room, regardless the length, dialogue or budget, means nothing when it comes to (uncredited) appearances.

Apart from being featured on screen, there's a second requirement: you must be clearly identifiable; again please, re-read the following highlighted text in particular:


That's precisely where you have the real problem. I've been able to watch the film and indeed you're there [first requirement:  ]:


But your actual screentime are 15 frames only (@24fps represent around 60 hundredths of a second)...

...and you're moving, which makes your identification harder, even zooming and speeding down the video...
  • Normal speed:
  • Half-speed:
It's that second requirement which needs to be evaluated by the editors at . So just wait and leave out gathering more documents because mean nothing to take the final decision.
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ljdoncel, Champion no no :) :)

Thank you very much for the help and responses and so generously attentive towards me replies, thank you 

Mr ljdoncel, Champion i had imagined you done everything and all u can to help me, off course i do NOT want to disturb and annoy you. im IMMENSELY grateful for the help and u have invested so much time on me i feel bad but IMMENSELY touched by your generosity.

I just said close down this thread because like the other guy said its a matter of really waiting for a response?

nothing bad or evil on my end. i understand i have to wait to see what happens correct?

and yes that is the frame indeed, thats me :)

ljdoncel, Champion THANK YOU DEEPLY FOR BEING SO AWESOME
SO PROFESSIONAL
SO ELEGANT IN YOUR RESPONSES
SO DIPLOMATIC, CLEAR AND DIRECT
IM DEEPLY GRATEFUL, YOU ARE AWESOME
I SALUTE YOUR EXCELLENCE AND WAIT FOR THEIR RESPONSE

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR ljdoncel, Champion
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Unless someone unfollows a thread (Post) every time anyone replies here we all get an e-mail. So we are all like a bad penny!
We all pay attention. If we have something to say, we reply.
Diligence. Perseverance.
And in the case of ljdoncel, Champion..........Way above and beyond in the creation of graphics.
Confucius always say. "One picture"...... "worth a thousand words".
Images and charts too!
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I personally don’t see a huge issue if this is accepted with the character description like ”Man on a Bike” or similar. When you see a film, you probably see a man on a bike in this scene. I mean there are probably thousands of ”uncredited” credits with background actors and it’s pretty safe to say that many of them are just that - a second or two on the background. Or maybe 15 frames.


Just my 2 cents. IMDb will, of course, make the final call.
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Thanks for the response
I stated Gio character because originally the director asked us to just say 3 words to Matt, he stopped the car asked for directions and I spoke Italian he told me your name is gio for Giovanni.
So that’s why i submitted the credit for gio on lovesick.
And the screengrabsk yet no response From IMDb.

ONE MAJOR QUESTION THOUGH
they automatically declined my credit yet I submitted the screengrab do I have the resubmit the credit again?
Or wait for them to approve the decline one?

What am I supposed to do?
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Like I said, my message above was just my quick thoughts on the subject which IMDb won't necessarily support. But since people of provide screenshots for proof (which, in a way, are just a few frames), then 15 frames is not that all that bad.

But in these type of cases I would suggest using the more informative character description. ”Man on a Bike” (or similar) is something that people can actually see on the screen, when ”Gio” is pretty difficult to identify (if the character name is not mentioned in the film etc). But I can see the reasoning behind the name if it was clearly mentioned by the director.
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He gave it to me.
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The director may have given the name, but he didn’t really followed it through since he (or perhaps the production company, who knows) left it out on the actual credits.

I would now wait for the ”official” reply from IMDb staff to this thread. All the info is there, I believe. We’ll see.
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I have feeling all of you vanishd....all of a sudden everyone disappeared.....not sure why

Thank you but the question for you Eboy or ljdoncel, Champion is they REJECTED my submission declined and then afterwards i submitted the screenbrags thorugh providing evidence, so do i need to re submit the contribution or will they re appprove the decline?

how does this work, please explain

because it was declined.....so whats the situation?

12 April 2019 
#190412-223609-108000


Lovesick (2014)
1 item 
Actor






 


 Declined (1)
ACTORADDITION

De Castro, MannieGio

see they declined so need help... plead advise

Again do i need to re submit my contribution since they rejected it?

i really need someone to helpme, 

 ljdoncel, Champion you diseappeared on me......
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Hi Mannie,

Unfortunately you need to contact staff directly regarding this matter. Please do so by using the Contact Us form selecting IMDb Fan/Contributor questions > Filmography credits > Other credit issues and hitting E-mail.

Regards,
Will
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While Eboy has an "Opinion", along with all the contributors here that are registered users, they are not the final say. Referring to an opinion in order to sway IMDb policy wont work. When IMDb makes a ruling at this level, the decisions are final. You are in communication with IMDb's top supervisors and their final say is irreversible. No amount of "Facts" will change their decision, except if you provide what they ask for.
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understood. thanks
may i ask someone to close this thread, thank u
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You are welcome.
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i give up imdb probably wont ever add anything to me, while these friends of mine, have uncredited roles all over and imdb adds them no problems

bianca mihailov, suzanne lachasse, marianne bourg, max cutler, sully chaudhary, bernard bullen

all these actors have uncredited roles, imdb adds them no problem

with me? NO NO NO NO

screengrbs, shut up actor, NO NO NO slap in the face....

everyone is allowed uncredited roles, i cannot have anything....nothing

i can give u examples of 10 actors who have roles without uncredit but its extra work and they have them.

so why am i the only one without a chance?

perfect example a guy i know has 4 uncredited roles on his imdb:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4317247/

so im not allowed?
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Hi Mannie -

As Will previously mentioned, you will need to contact staff directly to discuss the situation further. You can send an e-mail through our Contact Us form selecting the path:  IMDb Fan/Contributor questions > Filmography credits > Other credit issues and hitting the E-mail button.

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