imdb doesnt seem to accept pdf and contracts validating uncredited role.

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I have submitted a credit addition with uncredited at the end, along with this letter i obtained by email through the production company responsible for this production:

[Link to Adobe acrobat file redacted since it exposed personal information.]

Also have the release contract i signed for them.

I would simply like to know if that suffices. just trying to get this credit and i contacted them asking for help and they granted me that

I tried to submit this link through the contribution:

190408-221241-742000

but there was no option to do that.

Thank you
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Hi, Mannie:
I would simply like to know if that suffices.
Nope. To receive an (uncredited) cast entry, proving that you were contracted is not enough. You must be featured on screen.

See: I worked on a title but did not receive a screen credit. Can it be listed on IMDb?

Therefore, you must provide a screenshot from the FlashForward episode where you are visible. Fortunately, the episode can be found online easily.

Hope it helps.
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When submitting documentation, screen grabs and so forth, where do i do that in editing and submitting the contribution? it doesnt provide any option when submitting credits so where can we do that?
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ljdoncel,

Great idea to use an animated GIF.
Amazing works as usual.
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Deeply appreciate the response and GIF which indeed is excellent graphics,

yet Clearly everyone here is far more interested in praising each other than actually focusing on this problem which is REALLY PISSING  me off, imdb is deliberately trying to not help me, like enjoying themselves trying to screw me over. and it STATES submit proof of employment on the paragraph they sent me.

I did exactly that submitted to imdb, not a single response from anyone....

so then lets see what your team says since everyone seems to keen on TOTALLY for sure, totally:

If not listed within the end credits of the production verification should include proof of employment - this can come in the form of pay stubs, receipts, call sheets or contracts for the production, any mentions within the media of the role on the production from reputable third-party sources.

so i DID present that to imdb:

[links to image file redacted since they expose personal information.]

i contacted them and they provided me this.

PROOF OF EMPLOYMENT a contract! for this contribution, so what now then?

everyone is allowed to have credits when presenting this, im the only guy who isnt maybe because im a foreigner who knows....
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Mannie,

If you had bothered to read the eligibility criteria which I highlighted in my totally focused first response to you, you would have understood what you are missing...

In short, again. To receive an (uncredited) cast entry...
a) You need to have worked in the production ► Ok, you've proved that already.
b) You need to be featured and identifiable on screen ► Still awaiting proof.

Those are TWO REQUIREMENTS....and you need to fulfill BOTH OF THEM, not just one. That applies to everybody, either foreign or local...
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Do you know what, like it happens with so many actors, i hadnt seen that episode in forever, guess im screwed because from what ive seen they just used my voice and hand or something but apparently i dont show up.....

so you know as well as i do, 85% of people who get uncredited on imdb actually dont show up on screen because its extra work and they receive uncredited.

i worked on this and had a contract and im not eligible?! other people do extra work and dont even show up on screen and they can????

my peer has 5 uncredted and she was an extra who never showed up on screen....

is this fair at all???
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i hadnt seen that episode in forever, guess im screwed because from what ive seen they just used my voice and hand or something but apparently i dont show up.....
I'd watch the episode before assuming.


you know as well as i do, 85% of people who get uncredited on imdb actually dont show up on screen
I disagree with that percentage...


other people do extra work and dont even show up on screen and they can????
You're free to report those false credits and will confront their evidence with yours, and decide if the entries need to be removed.


my peer has 5 uncredted and she was an extra who never showed up on screen....
People inadvertently or purposely send ineligible credits that pass the filter because the system isn't perfect... true. But if some contributor detected and reported these mistakes on your peer's page, the overall accuracy of the person who submitted the credits in the first place would surely be affected, and it'd be much harder for her (or him) to add new credits to the database (i.e. word won't be enough...)
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iI have seen plenty of people here being helped and imdb stating changes have been made and applied, nobody gives a shit about me...it almost feels like discrimination towards me......truly like southern approach to races....

I was the one who reported my manager submitted wrong credits in the past, i was the one who email imdb fixing my page, so now could you please help me with this since i have clearly proven that i have worked on it, got paid for it?

I was the one who submitted that clarification about my page not anyone else, nobody reported me, i submitted that situation.

So now since normally you guys help people here and submit this information.

you have seen these credits are legit:

[link to image files redacted since they contain personal information.]

please can u help me?

If not listed within the end credits of the production verification should include proof of employment - this can come in the form of pay stubs, receipts, call sheets or contracts for the production, any mentions within the media of the role on the production from reputable third-party sources.

imdb states this! right??
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iI have seen plenty of people here being helped and imdb stating changes have been made and applied
...whenever those changes follow the policies, procedures and rules of the site.

imdb states this! right??
...and also states that eligibility needs verification of employment AND being featured on screen.

nobody gives a shit about me...
Ok, I did my part. Good luck...
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wow thanks for telling me to piss off in a very delicate way.

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Hi Jesse -

Thanks for posting the image URL, the episode cast credit you requested has been forwarded to our data editors and, if approved, should appear online with the next available update of our servers. Cheers!

this is how other actors are treated!


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thanks for telling me to piss off in a very delicate way
Wow... I acknowledge my limitations because English is not my first language (sorry for that), but you should have a serious problem of emotional intelligence when you don't comprehend why the person who's trying to help you understand why your credit isn't being accepted (and is explaining the only way you could fix it), decides to give up after hearing you complaining that nobody gives a shit about you and leveling accusations of discrimination.


this is how other actors are treated!
Sorry again, but what you definitely have is a serious problem of reading comprehension. You failed to read (or understand) my first post in its entirety and now you're doing it again to play a false victim card. Why don't you post all the info?



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thanks for telling me to piss off in a very delicate way
Wow... I acknowledge my limitations because English is not my first language (sorry for that), but you should have a serious problem of emotional intelligence when you don't comprehend why the person who's trying to help you understand why your credit isn't being accepted (and is explaining the only way you could fix it), decides to give up after hearing you complaining that nobody gives a shit about you and leveling accusations of discrimination.


this is how other actors are treated!
Sorry again, but what you definitely have is a serious problem of reading comprehension. You failed to read (or understand) my first post in its entirety and now you're doing it again to play a false victim card. Why don't you post all the info?



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I'm done with this chat clearly aside from insulting me and attacking me in all forms, i have for numerous times indicated that i have the documentation necessary to prove it and like many others actors it seems i didnt end up showing up on screen, but they still used me and i signed with a contract, so despite your grammatical attacks calling me emotional which is beyond ridiculou and direspectful.

Anyways its obvious your intentions is to make people in general feel like utter idiots, yet i acknowledge THE IMPORTANT OF SHOWING A SCREEN GRAB OR IMAGE YET i have stated clearly it seems i wasnt shown, happens to many people in general yet i have the contract which AGAIN stated by imdb suffices to prove my association to the episode.

and then i have you coming in insulting and attacking me,when i stated discarding emotional involvement since thats amateur behavior, is stated nobody gives a shit because clearly even presenting documentation imdb still decides to reject me.

OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION AND CONTRACT INVOLVING MY PARTICIPATION
AND ACTORS SOMETIMES DO NOT SHOW UP ON SCREEN.

FINAL CUT in the editing room, HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, at least 3 actors i the last jedi were cut out, tom hardy and the girl from the originals were cut out from the editing room..

So rather than grammatically bullying actors on this forum, have some sense of RESPECT and EDUCATIONAL MORALS to help rather than telling me off and indirectly calling me a child...
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I'm not emotionally involved at all yet simply trying to get what im entitled to yet think as you wish, thankfully im a professional actor who is simply trying to rectify this situation, you are welcome to insult, disrespect me and attack me all you want.

again i was involved in this production:
[links to images file redacted since they contain personal information.]

i was clearly cut out in the editing room, but still paid to act and signed a contract with them and everything is here in the images.

I would appreciate if imdb, considered this documents, note i was clearly cut out of the editing room, happens all the time and i cannot control the editors.

but i have everything official from the company.

so can someone please review this please.
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Can a staffer please edit these posts: #1, #2, #3 to remove personal private info (telephone, address...) that shouldn't be publicly visible?


Mannie, I think you've taken the term emotional intelligence the wrong way (actually the opposite what was intended: identify and manage one’s own emotions, as well as the emotions of others)... If you really believe that I intended to attack you, I sincerely apologize, but you're playing a wrong game when you say things like "maybe because I'm a foreigner" or "southern approach to races" to express a disagreement with a longstanding policy... That's very offensive, and, let me say, a bit childish. In any case, I'm sorry if you felt that way...
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Dr. ljdoncel,

Thank you for identifying links to personal information. I redacted those links and left a note in each of the post to that effect.
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Thank you very much, Dan.
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Dear Sir i was raisedin a multi ethnic region in europe, so for me everyone is the same, well just saying the way you addressed made me feel that way, because im a foreigner maybe you had a problem who knows, i have no idea. it is indeed offensive, im a foreigner from a comnunity of british, americans and portuguese and south americans in europe so i come from an international community and treat others the same way i would want them to treat me.

i mentioned south because its known of the UNFORTUNATE and major SAD racial differences existing over there, mainly in GA where its extremely noticeable but anyways im not here to talk about that because for me everyone is the same, we are all humans.

So mr ljdoncel, since you work for imdb, can you please assist me on this matter, would u be so kind and generous to acknowledge my situation and help me. talk to imdb, again have posted all the sensitive personal information in public and indeed admitted most likely the editors have indeed cut me out in the editing room.

so could you please assist me?

but you have SEEN the contract, and proof of employment and the letter.

in your heart please help me the same way you would want someone to help you if you were in my situation.

thank you
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i was raisedin a multi ethnic region in europe

So mr ljdoncel, since you work for imdb...
As many people around this forum, I don't work for ... I'm a simple contributor who tries to help other less-experienced users solve their issues according to the rules and procedures of the site..., and I actually was born less than 400 km than you, so being subtly accused of discrimination or disdain is not very nice when in fact I'm "another foreigner" caring for other's problem... Let's bury the hatchet, ok?

so could you please assist me?
The rules on (uncredited) cast entries are very clear, so the only way you could have had that credit listed is if you had been featured in the final cut of the episode. I'm sorry but that's how things work on the site. Are there ineligible (uncredited) items in the database that were wrongly overlooked by the data manager? Yes, there are, but you can't fail to stop at a red light in front of a police officer and pretend he doesn't fine you because other drivers passed without penalty when he wasn't looking...

in your heart please help me the same way you would want someone to help you if you were in my situation
Since I'm not part of the staff the only thing I can do is let you know the rules and policies, so for future works you can pay attention to what they're offering you (onscreen credit, featuring...) and decide if you're interested in it or not...

Perhaps you can list your work in FlashForward as an entry in the Other works section of your page, although guides are not totally clear whether uncredited actor jobs can be listed there.

Let's wait for a staffer () and see if they can give another solution, but I wouldn't be very optimistic.

I wish you the best.
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Can i ask this question, imdb states if your name does not show at the end of the credits and you do not have screen grab, proof of employment suffices correct?

contracts its on the guidelines. its there or am i blind?
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In order to be included in the cast listing with no attributes, a person has to appear on screen in the movie as a character (or an ambient figure) and his/her name has to appear on screen as a credit. For a movie that has not yet passed the post-production phase, this may be taken on good faith or often evidence of involvement is expected to be presented. The attribute "(uncredited)" is applied when a person appears but without his/her name appearing as a credit. The attribute "(credit only)" is applied when a person's name appears as a credit but yet his/her character is nowhere to be found. Understand?
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Ok so I did submit the credit through providing evidence about involvement on the production. Sent those two links.

IMDb didn’t even comment or respond to me at all. So am I supposed to at least get the credit only for this episode, and how can I submit documentation if they ignore everything I submit?

Where Am I supposed to send these documents, as you can see I sent contributions, imgur links to IMDb and not a single response, but viagem and nothing for you to see. What am I supposed to do?

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MC,

For an actor or other performers who appear on screen:

Case 1: Person's name appears in credits for the title and the person's name appears on screen.
IMDb includes name in credits

Case 2: Person has credits for for at least one other title. Person's name DOES NOT appears in credits for the title and the person appears on screen.
IMDb includes name in credits with the attribute "(uncredited)"

Case 3: Person has credits for for at least one other title. Person's name appears in credits for the title and the person DOES NOT appears on screen.
IMDb includes name in credits with the attribute "(credit only)"

Case 4: Person DOES NOT have credits for for at least one other title. Person's name DOES NOT appears in credits for the title and the person appears on screen.
IMDb DOES NOT credit person

Case 5: Person has credits for for at least one other title. Person's name DOES NOT appears in credits for the title and the person's name DOES NOT appear on screen.
IMDb DOES NOT credit person

From what I can tell from reviewing this thread and after reviewing the PDF file you provided:
1. You are credited for other titles.
Mannie De Castro
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4293173/
2. Your name DOES NOT appear in credits for the title
3. You do not appear on screen for
Flashforward (TV Series) Revelation Zero: Part 1 (2010)

It appears that Case 5 applies to you and that IMDb will not credit you for this episode. The contract information you provide is NOT sufficient for you to IMDb to credit you.

Get Satisfaction is a public forum. Everything you post on Get Satisfaction is available via a Google, Bing or other search engine search.

Please consider that you've exposed the phone number for the producer for Flashforward linking to the Adobe Acrobat (PDF) file.

Please note: people with the Champion designation are knowledgeable trusted users. They are not staff members.
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Understood
Thanks for the help
May I request someone to remove the personal information I have exposed in those documents?

Can someone staffer over there remove that info?
The links attached above please
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MC,

Although I am not a staff member, I have limited admin rights.

I edited your original post to remove the link to the Adobe acrobat file. If you are aware of other links that expose personal information, please post in this thread.
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MC,

Dr. ljdoncel identified three of your posts that have links to files with personal information. I redacted the links and left a note to that effect in each post.

If you know of other your posts in this thread or another thread that contains personal information, I would be happy to redact those posts as appropriate.

Staff members and Champions with admin rights can still review the history of this thread and see the links

Get Satisfaction (GS) is a public forum. GS provides a means to help with problems that do not require personal information.

For future reference, when you need to contact staff members privately, please use the contact form:
https://help.imdb.com/contact
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I did contact 5 times and do you know what happened? they completelely ignored me, you have the screengrab up there and see for yourself.

i submitted those documents and instead of talking to me they literally ignored me didnt they?

read their response....nothing regarding my documents at least.

See nothing just ignoring me...no response just throwing me away...

Not much help right?
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Mannie,
they completelely ignored me, you have the screengrab up there and see for yourself.
Not true. The message you've received is clearly telling you what we (three different regular contributors so far) are trying to make you understand: Your FlashForward credit doesn't satisfy IMDb's acceptance criteria...



You're not being ignored... You're having responses... The problem is you don't like them and you keep on refusing to acknowledge that the documents you've provided only confirm Q1, not Q5 (see scheme above).
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Thank you this is actually really useful and i understood from the beginning but it only seemed to me that whether or not i sent them screengrabds or something else they keep running away from my question.

appreciate that. 
on your end are you able to see peoples contributions, status and forward screengrabds and info to the editors?
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Thank you this is actually really useful
Thank you very much.

on your end are you able to see peoples contributions, status...
No, sorry, only staff (apart from yourself) are able to do so...
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How come I have seen many people posting things here then Michelle or someone from IMDb requests the screengrab to be posted here, I can show you examples from other threads and once the screen grabs are loaded here they get the credit?

Because providing the evidence contact clearly they are extremely hard to talk to...?
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@ljdoncel,

Did you create this chart or is this on the IMDb help pages.

If you created this chart, I strongly urge IMDb to add this to the help pages with your permission.
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I agree Dan. That is a great flow chart.
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It is a FANTASTIC CHART
thank you for that deeply grateful and saved it yet

Please respond to this.

How come I have seen many people posting things here then Michelle or someone from IMDb requests the screengrab to be posted here, I can show you examples from other threads and once the screen grabs are loaded here they get the credit?

Because providing the evidence contact clearly they are extremely hard to talk to...?
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@Dan :
Did you create this chart or is this on the IMDb help pages
I did it yesterday... I thought that it could clarify the use of the most common attributes. Perhaps I created it too quickly because now I realize that Q14 should have been represented differently, because it may look that the company name must be attached to the person's name rather than to the occupation... I leave a quick fix below...



@Ed: Thank you very much!


@Mannie:
It is a FANTASTIC CHART... thank you for that deeply grateful
You're welcome. Thank you very much.
once the screen grabs are loaded here they get the credit?
The screengrab that would get you the credit is one of you featured on screen. Otherwise, it is not eligible...
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Sorry I mean to ask, when I submit that addition to add the credit, and in my possession I have the screengrab from the movie, where do I include it in my submission?

In the past there were miscellaneous comments. Now there is nothing, where do I submit the screengrab?
Edit page. Add. Credit and where do we include these links or Imgur links?
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Please follow the instructions I gave in my second post (at the top of the page, the one with the animated GIF)...
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ljdoncel,

Your use of an animated GIF is extremely helpful. What software did you use to create the animated GIF?
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ljdoncel, I am really impressed by that chart, even though I'm usually more of a linear text guy. Your approaches and skills in the infographics are superb! :) 
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@Dan:

For this animated GIF I only used Camtasia: Camtasia Record to screencap, and Camtasia Studio to edit the video (crop+effects) and export it directly to GIF.

In other cases I screencap to MP4 with VLC Media Player, edit the video (crop+effects) with OpenShot or Avidemux, and export it to GIF with FFMPEG (offline) or the tools at EzGIF (online).


@Nikolay:

Thank you very much, Nikolay. The chart is just a hastily made Powerpoint slide exported as an image, so it's anything but professional...
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So how about this, i submitted the credit, sent the two screengrabs to imdb, through the providing evidence, through the car windshield and matt leblanc is driving the car and imdb still rejected.

picture of me and my girl right behind me.

now its evident, imdb is purposely and intentioanll screwing me over. i submitted two screengrabs and got rejected.

are you serious?

i mean now whose right about imdb going against me?
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Mannie, are those two screencaps from the actual final cut of the episode?

Can you please post them here on this forum?
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yes they were taken while matt leblanc was driving the car.
my friend filmmaker helped me track the movie and take the screengrabs. the scene actually he stopped the car and asked for directions and i spoke italian just teling him go left and right but then they decided cut  to being a VERY small budget movie but i still showed riding the bike in front of me pretending girlfriend.
little blur due to the sun but its me thats why i told him exactly what the scene was

https://i.imgur.com/S4vAzBn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/saBvsr8.jpg




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they decided cut  to being a VERY small budget movie
When did we stop talking about your FlashForward episode credit? I missed that, sorry.


If this is a completely new topic (another contested credit), you should start a new thread, post the 18-digit contribution number and provide the answer you've received from after sending them both screenshots... Also, if you wish, you can share with us the title for which you're trying to claim the credit.
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sorry i learned my lesson about flashforward. and moved on , since i cannot get my creidt have to move on and fix my other one.
i kept repeating myself, saved all the info you so generously shared so now i need to get the credit for lovesick which i did and went through the entire movie and finally go it.
so lovesick is a movie i did in 2014 was a featured character, they named me Gio and i had one line, they paid me good and those are two screenshots of the movie.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404299/reference

contribution

190412-223609-108000

screengrabds

https://i.imgur.com/S4vAzBn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/saBvsr8.jpg




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That update (190412-223609-108000) was submitted to less than 2 hours ago...

Please check the Data Processing Times page and this Track Contribution link.

Also, it is hard to believe that you've had enough time to send the screengrabs via Contact form and receive a response from the staffers to your mail...

Until you hear from them, in the meantime, it is advisable that you try to get a better quality screenshot. If you're able to do that, I believe the credit for Lovesick (2014) will be listed in your page without any more issues...
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Oh no need to receive the rejection email, I checked the status of my submission and was automatically rejected. So folllowing that I submitted the screengrab by providing evidence option you showed and sent them.

The problem is that unfortunately that is the best possible quality of me cycling around the corner and we were supposed to show up on the screen and talking to Le Blanc for a few seconds but we didn’t.
The sun and the windshield did block the view.
But my submission was automatically declined yet I sent the screengrabs. So what am I supposed to do?
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Give up.
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Excuse me? Give up? I submitted screengrab of me in the scene

Why?
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supposed to show up on the screen and talking to Le Blanc for a few seconds but we didn’t.
IE: No on screen close up showing your speaking face. No credit worthiness there by the above flowchart.

The sun and the windshield did block the view
IE: No clearly defined on screen image of your non speaking face. No credit worthiness there by the above flowchart.

Overall: No credit as defined by the above flowchart.
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Oh no need to receive the rejection email, I checked the status of my submission and was automatically rejected.
You DO need to wait and receive the yet-unknown-rejection email because the automatic rejection (which is mostly based upon the submitter's reliability along time) doesn't take into consideration the screengrabs you've supplied via Contact form, which need to be manually checked by the staffers.

...the best possible quality of me cycling around the corner [...] The sun and the windshield did block the view.
That can really be a problem, because rules for accepting (uncredited) appearances, as you've already learnt (), require you to be featured AND identifiable on screen... So it'll be up to to decide if you're identifiable enough...
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you are one of the only best people here much prefer to talk to you, Mr Ed jones doesnt quite serve the cause in his response so dispense those comments.

this is what i shows:

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Lovesick (2014)






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Just hope they do, would a letter from the production company also help along with the screengrabs? to verify i did play that italian role?






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No. See above flow chart and wait for staff to weigh in.
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Thanks for the response, how will the staff weigh in here, will they be notified by you?
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this is what i shows
That's the Track Contribution status (automatic answer in this case). What you should receive in your mail in the coming days is the human response to your Helpdesk request (the one which included the screenshots), so you should wait before assuming the rejection.
[...] would a letter from the production company also help along with the screengrabs?
Nope. Graphically, this is your current status:

That letter would only confirm Q1, not Q5, which depends on the screenshots from the actual film.
will they be notified by you?
Neither Ed nor myself notify to the staff directly. Don't worry, they monitor these forums actively and, when they have something to say, they do so...
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Thank you well i have submitted the screengrabs to them and no response at all, in fact nothing, they just ignore me, what should i do?
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How long ago?
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Ed thanks for the response, since yesterday morning im also in touch with:

Full Blitz Entertainment [US] – Production company 
Branch: Beverly Hills, CA
fullblitzentertainment.com 
+1 323 244 2709 phone 

Night and Day Pictures [US] – Production company 
Branch: Los Angeles, CA
nightanddaypictures.com 
+1 323 930 2212 phone 
info@nightanddaypictures.com

Because they know i was part of it, they have records of playing the character.
letter and contract plus they cut out my dialogue scene since it was a very small budget.

what should i do?

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It is a weekend. I have done the direct contact before. The initial reply can be 5 days. after that they reply on sustained dialog within 24 hours.
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Also NEVER post e-mails and phone numbers obtained from IMDbPro.
Staff will not call anyone and that information will eventually be removed by a board administrator.
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Oh i didnt intend to post it here so anybody could call just showing to you that im in contact with them because this is all true and i was in fact part of the production

i have submitted the screengrabs through providing evidence.
it says 24 hours after messahe and nothing.

i know they wont call but dont they monitor these chats and see that its a fact?
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ljdoncel, I'd say that the chart is a proof that instruments are far less relevant then the skills: I was not able to guess which program you have used and if that's your "hastily" I'm really curious as to what is your "careful and well-planned", because that ought to be something grandiose. :) 
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Mr Ed so should i wait until monday? 
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Thank you very much, Nikolay. Those words, coming from someone with such a vast experience and knowledge in the arts field, are greatly appreciated .
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ljdoncel and Ed Jones thank you for all the info and help, i did as instructed guess have to wait until monday and also show contracts from the company along side those screengrabs?
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ljdoncel "vast" might be an accurate description... But I always feel like no matter how many years you spend on something, feeling yourself undereducated and not skilled enough is, perhaps, the only way to have a shot at staying relevant. At least in my case, because it takes ages for me to master anything to a level which won't be merely rudimentary. :) 

You, on the other hand, have that quality-plus-speed which utterly amazes me. Hopefully one day I'll figure that out too and will be able to do everything I want on time... 
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Nikolay, during the year or so that you've being around this forum, you've shown yourself VERY far from being undereducated, but I agree with you that the more you know, the more is left to learn (I work in a science field, and that's a lesson I recall daily).

You're under 30, yet currently are the most prolific actor in Ukraine... (and likely the person with most credits in other departments)* so I don't believe it'll take you ages to master the skills you want to achieve more success...

Thank you again.

*Unfortunately, no longer provides countries of origin in the contributor datasets, so I can't give detailed numbers.
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Could someone close this thread. thank you
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Could someone close this thread. thank you
Wow, now I see that while I was trying to improve your chances of getting your credit accepted with a better screenshot (see below), you are asking this...

Ok... Good luck.
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Could someone close this thread. thank you
Wow, now I see that while I was trying to improve your chances of getting your credit accepted with a better screenshot (see below), you are asking this...

Ok... Good luck.
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nothing of the sort ljdoncel, Champion
im sorry if you took it in the wrong way, just thanking u deeply from the heart, i thought u had gone and helped other people :)

you are fantasic, bless your heart and soul for your excellence.

thank you deeply
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Nikolay Yeriomin wrote:
ljdoncel, I'd say that the chart is a proof that instruments are far less relevant then the skills: I was not able to guess which program you have used and if that's your "hastily" I'm really curious as to what is your "careful and well-planned", because that ought to be something grandiose. :)
I fully agree!
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Mannie,
ljdoncel and Ed Jones thank you for all the info and help
You're very welcome.

i did as instructed guess have to wait until monday
One of the first things you have to learn when dealing with problems on is to be patient. They have thousands of inquiries every day that ought to be attended by a limited staff, so please stop complaining that you're being ignored... Sooner or later you'll receive an official answer from the Helpdesk (either on Monday or the coming days).

this is all true and i was in fact part of the production

show contracts from the company

they have records of playing the character. letter and contract plus they cut out my dialogue scene since it was a very small budget
Please re-read carefully what we've told you before several times (see the graphic with the blue location marker). Those documents won't change anything. We all already know for sure that you worked in the production (Q1). What matters in the end is if you were featured on screen in the final cut of the film (first requirement). Footage that was left in the cutting room, regardless the length, dialogue or budget, means nothing when it comes to (uncredited) appearances.

Apart from being featured on screen, there's a second requirement: you must be clearly identifiable; again please, re-read the following highlighted text in particular:


That's precisely where you have the real problem. I've been able to watch the film and indeed you're there [first requirement:  ]:


But your actual screentime are 15 frames only (@24fps represent around 60 hundredths of a second)...

...and you're moving, which makes your identification harder, even zooming and speeding down the video...
  • Normal speed:
  • Half-speed:
It's that second requirement which needs to be evaluated by the editors at . So just wait and leave out gathering more documents because mean nothing to take the final decision.
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ljdoncel, Champion no no :) :)

Thank you very much for the help and responses and so generously attentive towards me replies, thank you 

Mr ljdoncel, Champion i had imagined you done everything and all u can to help me, off course i do NOT want to disturb and annoy you. im IMMENSELY grateful for the help and u have invested so much time on me i feel bad but IMMENSELY touched by your generosity.

I just said close down this thread because like the other guy said its a matter of really waiting for a response?

nothing bad or evil on my end. i understand i have to wait to see what happens correct?

and yes that is the frame indeed, thats me :)

ljdoncel, Champion THANK YOU DEEPLY FOR BEING SO AWESOME
SO PROFESSIONAL
SO ELEGANT IN YOUR RESPONSES
SO DIPLOMATIC, CLEAR AND DIRECT
IM DEEPLY GRATEFUL, YOU ARE AWESOME
I SALUTE YOUR EXCELLENCE AND WAIT FOR THEIR RESPONSE

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR ljdoncel, Champion
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Unless someone unfollows a thread (Post) every time anyone replies here we all get an e-mail. So we are all like a bad penny!
We all pay attention. If we have something to say, we reply.
Diligence. Perseverance.
And in the case of ljdoncel, Champion..........Way above and beyond in the creation of graphics.
Confucius always say. "One picture"...... "worth a thousand words".
Images and charts too!
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I personally don’t see a huge issue if this is accepted with the character description like ”Man on a Bike” or similar. When you see a film, you probably see a man on a bike in this scene. I mean there are probably thousands of ”uncredited” credits with background actors and it’s pretty safe to say that many of them are just that - a second or two on the background. Or maybe 15 frames.


Just my 2 cents. IMDb will, of course, make the final call.
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Thanks for the response
I stated Gio character because originally the director asked us to just say 3 words to Matt, he stopped the car asked for directions and I spoke Italian he told me your name is gio for Giovanni.
So that’s why i submitted the credit for gio on lovesick.
And the screengrabsk yet no response From IMDb.

ONE MAJOR QUESTION THOUGH
they automatically declined my credit yet I submitted the screengrab do I have the resubmit the credit again?
Or wait for them to approve the decline one?

What am I supposed to do?
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Like I said, my message above was just my quick thoughts on the subject which IMDb won't necessarily support. But since people of provide screenshots for proof (which, in a way, are just a few frames), then 15 frames is not that all that bad.

But in these type of cases I would suggest using the more informative character description. ”Man on a Bike” (or similar) is something that people can actually see on the screen, when ”Gio” is pretty difficult to identify (if the character name is not mentioned in the film etc). But I can see the reasoning behind the name if it was clearly mentioned by the director.
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He gave it to me.
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The director may have given the name, but he didn’t really followed it through since he (or perhaps the production company, who knows) left it out on the actual credits.

I would now wait for the ”official” reply from IMDb staff to this thread. All the info is there, I believe. We’ll see.
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I have feeling all of you vanishd....all of a sudden everyone disappeared.....not sure why

Thank you but the question for you Eboy or ljdoncel, Champion is they REJECTED my submission declined and then afterwards i submitted the screenbrags thorugh providing evidence, so do i need to re submit the contribution or will they re appprove the decline?

how does this work, please explain

because it was declined.....so whats the situation?

12 April 2019 
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Lovesick (2014)
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ACTORADDITION

De Castro, MannieGio

see they declined so need help... plead advise

Again do i need to re submit my contribution since they rejected it?

i really need someone to helpme, 

 ljdoncel, Champion you diseappeared on me......
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Hi Mannie,

Unfortunately you need to contact staff directly regarding this matter. Please do so by using the Contact Us form selecting IMDb Fan/Contributor questions > Filmography credits > Other credit issues and hitting E-mail.

Regards,
Will
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I also copying this message to imdb contact form because its me on screen, this is insane, really rejecting everything i submit.

So this is what happened, i received this message from imdb, 

Hi Mannie,

Thank you for your message.

Unfortunately, you are not easily identifiable in the clip and images you provided for our editors to verify the credit.  Unless we have other substantial evidence to help verify your credit (such as a screen grab of your name credited on-screen), the credit is currently ineligible and cannot be listed.

YET before this gentleman on this forum stated:

Eboy


I personally don’t see a huge issue if this is accepted with the character description like ”Man on a Bike” or similar.

Eboy


Like I said, my message above was just my quick thoughts on the subject which IMDb won't necessarily support. But since people of provide screenshots for proof (which, in a way, are just a few frames), then 15 frames is not that all that bad.

actors get uncredited stuff all the time, why am i the only actor maybe in the history of imdb that doesnt get uncredited?

im submitting screenshots and proof am i not?

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While Eboy has an "Opinion", along with all the contributors here that are registered users, they are not the final say. Referring to an opinion in order to sway IMDb policy wont work. When IMDb makes a ruling at this level, the decisions are final. You are in communication with IMDb's top supervisors and their final say is irreversible. No amount of "Facts" will change their decision, except if you provide what they ask for.
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understood. thanks
may i ask someone to close this thread, thank u
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You are welcome.
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i give up imdb probably wont ever add anything to me, while these friends of mine, have uncredited roles all over and imdb adds them no problems

bianca mihailov, suzanne lachasse, marianne bourg, max cutler, sully chaudhary, bernard bullen

all these actors have uncredited roles, imdb adds them no problem

with me? NO NO NO NO

screengrbs, shut up actor, NO NO NO slap in the face....

everyone is allowed uncredited roles, i cannot have anything....nothing

i can give u examples of 10 actors who have roles without uncredit but its extra work and they have them.

so why am i the only one without a chance?

perfect example a guy i know has 4 uncredited roles on his imdb:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4317247/

so im not allowed?
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Hi Mannie -

As Will previously mentioned, you will need to contact staff directly to discuss the situation further. You can send an e-mail through our Contact Us form selecting the path:  IMDb Fan/Contributor questions > Filmography credits > Other credit issues and hitting the E-mail button.

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