IMDB approved fake credit and keeps declining to remove it even if the movie and credits are out as proof

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I worked on the movie Once upon a time in Hollywood as background so I know 100 percent this girl was hired as background not principal. My friend has submitted this explanation to IMDB and they keep ignoring it and keep fake credit on their site for no reasons with no explanation. The movie is out and IMDB still keeps declining to remove this credit why is IMDB approving fake credits for random people and refuses to remove it even when proof is out? This is for Elizabeth Ferarra on Once upon a time in Hollywood movie. Submitting proof of their response with no explanation. In fact half of the people on that IMDB page are uncredited the movie is out so how long will it take for IMDB to remove all the fake credits and mark as uncredited???
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Just use "uncredited" only attribute. Leave out "featured background". For the character name it is best to use a description that is as short as possible that says what she was doing.
Example: Woman at Party. Woman at Pool. Woman on Sidewalk. Woman in Diner. Woman Dancing.
If you read those submission guidelines it may help you to understand better. Featured background is definitely the cause for the rejection.
Resubmit the credit and it should go through if you follow the guidelines advice.
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Ok so everyone here lets start posting your ideas to solution to this :) they want proof. Anyone has idea how to proof her name is not in final credits? I saw the movie so I know it but do we need to take photos of all cast credits to prove it? Dont u think IMDB should be the one doing this? It is their job to be accurate
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I'm right there with you. In one profile alone (someone Ive known very near and dear for 35 years+, has a massive amount of (deliberately) incorrect info of the same exact things, and all though there is full and absolute proof that its incorrect they will not correct it. This looks like a definite Class Action suit candidate if you ask me. They cant be aloud to continue this. I'm sure that there are many of you out there that know of good attorneys and litigators that would be happy to take this on. Pass this on, and hopefully the right person will come across it and do the right thing, seeing as IMDB obviously isnt about to. All of the dishonesty that goes on in this town is bad enough as it is, it's about time to start getting some of the respect back to those that deserve it!
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I did. I submitted all options and they keep ignoring and declining it. Plus Im not sure if your understanding it. I am trying to remove this fake credit, as well as I tried to submit it as uncredited background and still declined
Anyone knows how to reach to IMDB to do their job? What guidelines do you mean exactly? If I submit something for being fake what guidelines are there for it?
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A. It's not fake. You alluded to it above.
B. I submitted all options and they keep ignoring and declining it. What all options.
C. Doing this here or by direct contact gets you in contact with the same employees.

Now to facilitate this matter, take a screenshot of your last submission and post it here with that submission number.

You can find that 18 digit number and the original submission image by selecting it for viewing at,

https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/history/?ref_=helpms_ch_ci_history
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Ed you need to unfollow this post. You are no help you just keep steering the conversation somewhere else away from the problem and you seem to have a lot of personal issues.
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What do u mean by "it is not fake I alluded it here"? R u saying someone working as background should get credited as principal with credit? As far as I know background people do not get any credits or are uncredited. So why is this credit there at all? The question was what guidelines. You did not respond to that. All options meaning uncredited, background, remove... why do I need to be posting tracking numbers? I posted screenshot. It clearly says it was declined. Do u work for IMDB ? Or why do u need this tracking number? Also interestingly the screenshot in my 1st post is no longer in my history so they are obviously reading this yet not doing their jobs. Do these people who get these fake credits approved pay them off or how does this work I wonder. How does employee decide based on no proof he will apporove this made up credit? And than decides to decline when someone submits correction? Based on what? Their current mood?
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According to your submission pictured above you were trying to ADD or amend her credit. She is credited as being in the cast "without" a character name, which happens when the production staff submits it and the character is not given one. Now you may have been hired as she was, as a "Featured Background". This is a reference to your status as an extra. It is not an acceptable "Character", for your submission to be accepted you must name the character that IMDb deems acceptable in accordance to guidelines.

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/cast-acting-credits-guidelines/GH3JZC...#

F. Character Names

Wherever possible, we list character names as they appear in the on-screen credits. We make occasional exceptions when character names are not listed on-screen or when the character descriptions in the end titles include spoilers, but as a rule we try to stick to credits as closely as possible. If you don't know what is the on-screen character name or one isn't listed, here are some guidelines to help with character name submissions and corrections:


Names are usually enough and character name shouldn't be descriptive, unless absolutely necessary to identify the actor (i.e., if a role doesn't have a name, someone may be identified as "Man in Van" or "Woman with Umbrella").


A name is not your status as a "Featured Background Extra"


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No unfortunately she was not hired as cast and no productions submitted credit for her :) where r u getting these ideas? I have clearly said this movie is put and her name is not in final credits. That was submitted to IMDB numerous times and ignored. Now movie is out so they need to do their job and remove it :) do you know why they are not doing that? Why were they ignoring the requests before when they had no proof?
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Dear Ed Jones. There were several submission all of which mentioned all problems I meantioned. They keep declining. Doesnt matter I say she was background, featured, undredited, remove credit, nothing ever happens. Now the proof is out so why is the credit still there? SHE DOES NOT HAVE CREDIT IN FINAL CREDITS.
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Please read this topic below.......
She does NOT have to be in the final credits.
By my quick visit to the page there are over 30 uncredited credits that are NOT on screen.



Cast attributes: Uncredited

The (uncredited) attribute is used to indicate that a person's name does not appear in the main or end titles of a title. A typical example is when a famous actor has an unbilled cameo appearance in a movie.

Uncredited appearances in a movie or show can be extremely difficult to verify, as they do not conform to IMDb's general principle for cast; we always follow the onscreen credits. Likewise, none of the following have any bearing on whether they were, by our definition, credited: pay stubs, call sheets, agent listings, press mentions, resumes, and their visibility on screen. The only thing that matters is the actual, onscreen credits. If their name was not on screen, but they were in the movie or show, they were uncredited.

Uncredited submissions require more work than other types of credits, and are often a particularly contentious area. Ideally we would like to be able to verify every individual submission, but this is not realistic so we apply a number of criteria when assessing uncredited attributes, the tenets of which are captured below.

Please note that a cast member needs to have at least one credited entry in the database before we will list their uncredited work. If we have accepted uncredited entries, these will automatically go live upon acceptance of credited entries. We may make an exception in very rare/specific circumstances (i.e. on movies released before 1990, episodes released before 2000 and/or for high-profile credits, such as an uncredited cameo appearance by a celebrity), but in most cases we will not list an uncredited credit unless you have a pre-existing credited filmography.

The principle of how to submit cast credit attributes is captured in the following table:



Do they Appear in the Title?
Are they listed in the Credits?
Attribute
Yes No (uncredited) Yes Yes Credit with no attribute No No Do not credit at all No Yes (credit only)

General Rules

The following credits are likely to be discarded:

    Submissions with an empty character field or with descriptions such as "lead", "supporting" or "featured". We will accept "background" or "extra" if that's how the credit appears on screen, but "background", "extra" or "bit-part" will not be accepted as a character name on the title if the role does not receive an on-screen credit. If that is the case the character name should include a description of the part - Woman with Dog, for instance - and (uncredited) in the 'attribute' box. But see below - they must be recognizable. It is not enough to have just worked on a production: Their scenes must be included in the final cut and it must be possible to easily identify their appearance. Background/extra work as a crowd member (or a similar role where it's impossible to recognize the subject)

    We will usually discard credited submissions where, in the vast majority of cases the character/role name would be uncredited, such as "waiter", "bus driver", "pedestrian", "bar patron", "party goer" etc. If they are credited with such a character or role name, you are able to provide evidence and the credit does not appear on the site within 10 days, please contact our team using the form below with verifiable proof of the credit.

    Please also note that we place a lot of weight on submitter history, so submitters who have previously attempted to submit false information, such as listing an uncredited role as credited, will find it extremely difficult to get future submissions accepted. Please see the Contributors Charter for more information.

    Please also note:

    We reserve the right to remove uncredited work at any time. We periodically revise and adapt these criteria and reserve the right to retroactively restrict our eligibility rules for uncredited work.

    We do not add additional uncredited roles to titles with a cast that has already been locked. Existing listings should not be taken as an indication that similar entries are automatically eligible. Please do not assume that the presence of a similar credit automatically implies that your entry should and will be accepted.

    Please also keep in mind that, on new and/or yet-unreleased titles, all credits we list are not final and are subject to change, especially until they can be checked against an actual film print. It's fairly common, for example, for uncredited roles to be removed from the site when final credits become available to us, or when/if a scene has ended up on the cutting room floor.


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    Please don't take a meaning out of context in the topic above to prove a point.

    She is eligible. You said so in your description. Was it a lie? Or was it Fact?

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    Your submissions so far have not met contribution guidelines.
    Tell me what she did in the movie (Bit Part Description) and I will submit and screenshot it so you know how a correct one looks like.
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    How did my submission of she was bacgkround did not meet the guidelines? What she did was she was background I have mentioned it over and over. Is there anything that is not clear about this??? Do you people not know what background is on movie?
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    You said she is eligable? Eligable for what? I am really confused how are you not understanding of what background is. Are you saying bacgkround people are eligable to get credits? They are not :) the problem here is the submission of her credit is not eligable. That is the problem. It is made up and fake :) why was it approved? As I said many times she was bacgkround if you are not understanding this I am not sure how to explain it to you but the very screenshot of what I wrote that u reposted clearly said she was bacgkround :) background people do not get credits as principals :)
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    So if she is not in final credits why does she still have credit? Why doesnt it say uncredited? Why was it approved before the movie was out? Without any kind of proof? When I clearly submitted back than that she was hired as background :)
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    Hi Nena, 

    As Ed has stated, uncredited entries must be listed with a specific character name for them to be identifiable on screen. Therefore modifications to change the character to 'Background' and the attribute of 'uncredited' will not be approved. If you are able to confirm what role she can be identified as, please resubmit with this in the character field and the attribute of 'uncredited' and our data editors will review this further. 

    Thanks
    Meredith
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    The situation does not make sense, though.
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    Makes sense to me.
    Makes sense to Meredith.
    What don't you see Jeorj?
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    Nina her name needs to be removed from that page as she is not credited at all. Since you are an employee you should be able to do that right? It is cery strange what you said because I have seen a lot of uncredited background on IMDB :) she had no character and therefore her name should be removed does that make sense to you? Why have you approved her credit by the way? Based on what?
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    So Meredith are you going to remove that fake credit or will you keep asking about questions that do not matter ? I have said over and over this girl was not hired as principal so why is she credited? Does IMDB approve fake credits based on no facts? Based on emoployees moods?
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    Ed how does it make sense to you that IMDB approves made up credits with no proof? She was hired as background pedestrain if youd like to submit it :)
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    You do not have a true understanding of credits in movies I'm sorry to say.
    These stars were in the movie without any character name. "Stars" Not Extras.





    Now these are just a couple of Extras without a character name that need updating. Not removal. Stick to being an Actress. How would you like it if someone decided like yourself that your credits needed removal based on the same uninformed theories that you have.

    Also notice how the roles are listed by what they were. (NO CHARACTER NAME)




    Now the uncrediteds.

    See how their character says what they were. Not their character name.

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    So are you saying she should be credited as principal when she was background?
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    She is not "Background anything" She is a "Pedestrian"
    But Pedestrian where? Where was she a pedestrian?
    That is how it needs to read to be accepted.
    Was she a pedestrian outside the Playboy Mansion?
    Was she a pedestrian on a subway platform?
    Was she a pedestrian outside the Courthouse?
    Was she a pedestrian at the docks of the Marina?
    Was she a pedestrian at Dodger Stadium?
    Was she a pedestrian in the Parking Lot?

    Get my drift?
    Accuracy!
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    And you let me handle the submission.
    She will be listed as uncredited.
    But I need to know exactly where she was a pedestrian!
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    Are you joking right now?
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    What I really want to know is why does IMDB keep approving fake credits without any proof... anyone knows? Because I have submitted to them long ago that this girl was not principal so they knew it yet kept it there anyway? Without proof? Very bizzare the way they work I must say...
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    Ed she was street pedestrian on Hollywood blvd does that help? Also why does it matter where she was when she was hired as pedestrian only? Do u know why she is credited as principal actress? That is the true problem here not where she walked as background pedestrian :) if anyone cared about accuracy here her credit would be changed to background after my first post. Instead some IMDB employees here try to find bizzare excuses why they approved fake credit.... unbelievable
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    Also are you guys saying that if someone has fake principal credit IMDB will not remove it till they know the category of background? They will keep this person as principal even if they know she was background? How bizzare..without any proof? Makes no sense...
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    Last time.
    Do not care if you saw it as a listed credit somewhere because it should have been disallowed or rejected.
    There is no such thing in IMDb as "Background". It is a job description. Not a Role.
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    By your theory Michael Madsen should be removed! How bizarre!!!!!!!!!!!!!! without any proof? Makes no sense...!!!!!!!!!!!
    He was in it. I saw him. He had no character name. Your statement of things as YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM is Bizarre.
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    Well great I am waiting to see if this is finally corrected. Thank you fo your help. Isnt it dissapointing to know that IMDB approves fake pricnipal credits without any proof?
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    I reas other problems people have and I find it dissappointing producer can submit fake credit yet sctor cant get it removed.. yes another part of business where actors are the ones abused.. what happend to quality? Thats why there is so many complaints about IMDB is it abusive towards actors. Why does actor have burden of proof that he was not in movie as oppose to producer who submitted it that he was? Producers shouldnt be able to get credits for actors they didnt pay or hire... something very wrong with this. They obviously do it to get exposure... without paying the actor... and IMDB supports them in this
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    Ok so by your theory anyone can get principal credit until the movie is out? Anyone can make it up? Hm.... that is very bizzare theory
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    How about I ll submit my mom and friends as principal actors until the movie is out.. is that how IMDB works? :)
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    You have no idea who submitted the credit.
    It was most likely done by production staff.
    Quit speculating.
    Quit acting offended.
    It falls short of sincerity.
    Do you not realize that this is public.
    Your whining will not look well to other people in the industry.
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    Ed Jones by your theory people who u see in movie should have credits correct? So why was this girls credit approved before the movie was out?
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    I do know who submitted the credit :) it was not production they do not submit credits for background :) u should stop being rude because it does not look good for contributor to be rude u do know this is public right? U should stop defending IMDB since u have to answer to why they approve fake credits without proof and decline when someone submits true information :)
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    You have no idea who submitted the credit.
    It was most likely done by production staff.
    Quit speculating.
    Quit acting offended.
    It falls short of sincerity.
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    If you know who submitted it, NAME THEM.
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    Why do I need to name them? Why r u so interested?
    Does the "who submitted it" make a difference between someone hired as main cast and someone hired as background? I do not see that connection...:) big budget productions never submit credits for background as principals I know that much :)
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    So Meredith will you remove the credit as her name does not appear in final credits or you will leave this fake credit there?
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    Nena, you're suggesting that somebody did this on purpose, but you will not explain how or why. We don't know who you are and we do not know if what you claim is the closest thing to accurate as can possibly be.
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    We dont know who you are either :) I have seen the movie you are welcome to do so as well. So yes I have explained how. Why would someone lie about something that anyone can check on? :) I also posted about who submitted it and why.
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    No you have not posted here who and why.
    Who is you..........Anonymous Nena.
    Your how explanation was you and her were hired as featured background extras.
    If Jeorj asks a question be forthright with an answer. And make sure your answer does not contradict yourself as you have done here so as to obfuscate on purpose.
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    Ed let me see what spelling ur talking about... perharps u ment typos? Never seen typos before? So ur trying to stear the real conversation about IMDB inaccuracy to spelling now? How bizzare... Im stadting to think u work for them but ur here pretedning to be contributor because u do keep defending them for no reason knowing they approve fake credits based on 0 facts :)

    1. I do know exactly who submitted it thats how I know its fake
    2. You assume too much if u think Im an actor... stick to being contributor :) many background people do background as a job without being actual actors :)
    3. Dont be rude when ur frustrated :) anger management?
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    I'm not frustrated.
    Enjoying the diatribe you spew out.
    Cheers
    Keep it up please.
    Your very entertaining.
    But you are now conversing by yourself.
    No need to reply further to you as you have become dull.

    Oh and you have assumed wrong again (Frustrated and Angry)
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    Nena, you screenshot was caught in the spam filter here on GS, likely because it was a picture with no description. I fished it out. 
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    Ed ur very dull and u keep trying to converse about unrelated stuff. Perhaprs u r bored... u need to find different hobby :)
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    Nena, this one was also caught in the spam filter. Perhaps due to grammar. 
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    Nikolay, I already received the posts you are "unsticking". Now I'm getting them a second time. Not sure why it's showing as caught in a filter, since it was already forwarded.
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    I only see 1 screenshot... not sure what ur reffering to as this one also.. is there 2nd one?
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    It's here once on GS, but via email the same posts came through twice, likely because Nikolay "unstuck" them.
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    The reason it does not make sense is because the role field is blank despite the occurrence of which contravening guidelines. Such should not have happened in the first place.
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    It does if the Production Company added it. Is IMDb gonna deny/reject a submission from Anyone associated with a Quentin Tarantino project.
    And I don't mean an individual credit by an actor. IMDb rarely accepts those without Call sheets and pay stubs. And that's on a low profile Movie. Getting a credit approved on this movie unless it was submitted by a P.A. working for these 4 listed below would be impossible.


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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    Jeorj, if you looked at the cast screenshots above ther are BIG NAME actors with no character names. And they may have never had one either.
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    I've rarely encountered it outside of the scenarios explained by Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin). Regardless, it does not seem proper, as neglect is probable. The excuse for stuff like that being added in the first place either does not exist or is very weak. If the jet lag between movie publication and updates to corresponding filmographies found on IMDb is too long, then serious problems may arise. When a production status is updated to "released", it is time to see to it that, no more cast listing items have empty role fields.
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    Jeorj, this is an unusual circumstance. Look at the enormity of the cast list. It will probably be 18-36 months before every last one of those credits is finalized. Lets hope that this example serves to warn off those that would take away a valid acting credit based on IMDb's arbitrary rules, or a misinterpretation by a contributor like this one. (Nena) This cast list should be protected from any deletions that were added prior to it's premier date.
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    It is not unusual at all. I see people submitting fake credits all the time and IMDB approving them. They approve based on no facts, give more value to productions over actors often. Cheap productions want exposure without paying actor so they submit fake credit. Actor cant remove it. Abusive
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    Ed in my opinion the cast list can not be approved unless verified 1st. It is easy to google who was really cast in this movie as for the small actors they shouldnt be approved unless submitted by production or unless movie is out and credits verified.
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    You've not explained how you know whether or not a submission was approved without evidence being supplied, Nena. The system is not nearly transparent enough for IMDb non-staff to know these things, apart from the contributors who are actually submitting these inaccurate pieces of information.
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    Ed posted the reply he got. I thought you read it. Ok here is screenshot of the reply I got. So they want explanation which I provided. What proof can there be that person is not in movie?
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    So I reported problem with IMDB approving fake credits and some contributor here is concerned with spelling and background category instead the the fact that IMDB approved made up credits with no proof... attention disorder or employee pretending to be contributor?
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    Nena

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    Anyone who reads this forum and problems people complain about knows that IMDB has too many problems and is too abusive towards actors :)
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    You just said your not an actor
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    You just said your not an actor
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    Nena

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    I did? Where? When I said IMDB is abusive towards actors it means Im an actor? Since when? :) I think u do have ADD
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    Or u assume too much?
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    U know this is public forum and it does not look good for contributor to be rude instead of helpful. U should find different hobby :)
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    If you know who submitted it, NAME THEM.

    You have no idea who submitted the credit.
    It was most likely done by production staff.
    Quit speculating.
    Quit acting offended.
    It falls short of sincerity.
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    Nena

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    Why would I need to name them? Quit your abusive mentality towards actors it is no longer accepted in the world. U assumed I was actor so u started mocking me.. thats the IMDB employee mentality as well that is why I think u work for them but r here pretending to be "contributor" :)
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    Nena

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    Quit assuming and speculating... :) ur making excuses for IMDB to approve fake credits and decline to correct them :)
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    I had the same negative experience with this chap recently on an unrelated topic. Good luck with him! First in with the answer, which is correct because he says so. As you say, the experience doesn't make me want to submit a question to IMDb Community again in a hurry.
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    Ed Jones is a 'wannabe' he wants to be an IMDb employee but can't. He plays at being someone important who knows everything and has to have the final say. Take no notice of him he likes to play this game.
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    Oh I see thanks for info. Well he did help but why he has need for personal attacks after that is a mystery... perharps it is because he assumed Im an actor. Even if I was does not make ok for personal attacks and why is he abusive towards actors is a mystery too :) Hollywood mentality?
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    Nena

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    Jim perharps he assumed u were an actor too thats why u had that experience? Why do contributors think it is ok to mock actors here?
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    He is an actor, he should spend the time and effort getting his acting career on track instead of coming on here and mocking people. I mean who would employ him as an actor after reading pages and pages of personal attacks by him on here.
    He does himself no favors in Hollywood at all by being on here.
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    Nena, I’m no actor and like I said, my post was on a completely different subject , but my experience of Big ‘ed as I mockingly termed him, was very negative. So superior and dismissive. Not at all what I expected from the IMDb “community”.
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    As well as his acting page this is his public face. Not what you would expect from an aspiring actor looking for roles.
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    I'm an Acerbic Comedian.
    Would be great as a grumpy old man in pictures.
    Like my audition so far!
    You see, unlike you all here pretending to have a grasp on the big picture, you are just barely able to fill up a 22" Toshiba.
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    Oh Ed is an actor? Than he should stick to his own advice of "stick to acting" and "be careful this is public forum so anyone in industry can read it" instead of posting here :)
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    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8529286/
    If he keeps this up his Hollywood career will be in tatters.
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    I have already been contacted "Because of my work here"
    Scooby why don't you go post another post like you did under the last 4 Sockpuppet accounts you used.
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    Thanks for posting my name page. That actually helps.
    Keeps my STARmeter numbers up.
    This is precisely why I use a real name instead of hiding behind an psedonim.
    Both of you would not be posting like this if you used a real name? Now would you?
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    Put your efforts into becoming a great actor. It's a real shame to see you wasting your time on here abusing people when you could be putting your talents into furthering your career..
    There could be hidden talents there but your not showing them here.
    Build up your portfolio, there could be important contacts here that you are abusing.
    You never know who is reading this.
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    Thanks for your concern.
    I own a business.
    Don't particularly care if I make it as an actor. I'm a Comedian and voice artist mainly.
    Do not think you actually care sir.
    Put up your real name with proof and I might take it to heart.
    Otherwise.......................................................

    P.S. I have a face made for radio.
    I can only expect to get work out of Central Casting as an extra.
    I'm a realist, not a dreamer. Not afraid to say what is on my mind using MY NAME.
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    If success equates to one step forward, and failure equates to nine steps back, then a 90% success rate is merely breaking even, despite 95% signifying getting somewhere at a little more than double pace. Let us try to tune it up a bit, please.
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    Nena it's you who are a) assuming b) speculating and c) keep mocking an actress, demanding her IMDb listing (NOT credit, IMDb listing) being removed. 

    That and you also keep claiming that you were a background performer on the movie too, strategically not revealing your own name and affiliation. Until there's a transcript of end credits of the movie your claims are as unsubstantiated and "fake" (using your own terminology for anything that doesn't fit you very specific criteria) as what you are trying to suggest.
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    No I was not speculating or assuming. Seems you are and Ed as well :) this is about IMDB being negligent about credits they approve not about how to submit correction. Point is they shouldnt have approved it at 1st place :) so ur saying removing fake credits is mocking so in your opinion people should be submitting fake credits ? Well what would be the point of IMDB than? If alll was made up? Have u used any logic?
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    So Nikola now we all know IMDB didnt decline it because my contribution was not correct. Ed posted they want proof. What do u suggest to resolve this? What kind of proof can someone submit to confirm someone is not in movie? Dont u think it is ridiculous? Or do u think fake credits should stay as they are on IMDB?
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    Nena, I'm on GS and IMDb practically daily. I'm correcting cast additions rather often and I can tell you that fake credits are a rarity. What usually happens are misplaced credits and/or IMDb listings, which you tend to confuse with credits. For some reason you are very enthusiastic over a fact that someone is missing an attribute which for now cannot be added properly (yet). Your behaviour looks a lot like a grudge towards one specific person, something which I've seen a few times on IMDb and been on receiving end of, as well. Yet, again, I'm not saying that is what's going on, but I always doubt cases like that to a point and in this case point is far from being there. Moreover just because you can't see someone on the first viewing, it's not a guarantee that person is not in the film. Since recognizing extras and cameos is one of my hobbies I can tell you from experience that sometimes it takes three to ten views to actually catch someone in the crowd. Despite one might be visible, and even for a significant amount of time. 

    You also keep adressing mockery of actors but you keep asking questions which look like mockery on your part, like continuously asking people whether they are actors or not. Your grammar and what seems to be trying to be on the short leg with everyone ("u" instead of "you" and  which I guess is just shorter to type but instantly makes you look like you're not serious while talking with everyone) here is entirely another thing, but they're not helping either. Half the time I can't tell if you're sarcastic, serious, demanding, joking or everything at once.  

    As for IMDb's negligence... In 2011-2012 adding one single credit to a big budget movie was taking up to a month. I know that, because my voice credit for The Dark Knight Rises (2012) took that time. Back in the day, it seems, studios were way more involved and each credit was actually re-checked in the documents and official notes (in which I was, I guess). The fact that process is faster nowadays does not mean that process is somehow less controllable. Moreover we're talking about a film which is currently in theatres. Making a full transcript of end credits is virtually impossible (and yes, I tried). 

    P.S. Since judging by your previous comments you will likely ask whether I'm an actor - no, I'm not. I do have 141 acting credits, but professionally I'm not an actor, I'm just a filmmaker who rarely refuses lending a hand to no budget productions (which always have difficulties with casting). That and I usually appear in a walk-on or something like that in everything I do, as well. 
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    Nikolay no I am not interested if ur an actor if u read properly ud know that was reference to Ed mocking and attacking actors. You seem to be preoccupied with something else just like Ed not with resolving this like Gromit is. Focus your attention on the problem which is this fake credit :) This person is never seen in this movie it is several people who confirmed it with me who watched it. Your speculations are pointless. U r someone who is posting here with no help or resolution just like Ed only for personal attacks perharps out of boredom. If ur here daily u should have had this resolved already otherwise ur wasting your time. Credit is fake u can go watch movie for yrself.. Im posting about this 1 person because I know her credit is fake. Why r u bothered about this? If I happen to work with her and know her credit is fake why should I be posting about anyone else here?
    If it is your hobby why havent u gone to see this movie yet and resolve this? And since u agree making transcript of all credits is impossible what do u think needs to be done here?
    The problem here is not if shes seen as extra, the problem is she is not main cast, is not seen as main cast, is not in final credits as main cast therefore should have no credit as main cast on IMDB.
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    Nena why on Earth are you trying to prove that with one particular person you know, though? Why not go further and try and delete everyone in this title with no clearly defined role? Especially, you know, well known actors who still don't have any specified role, like Zoë Bell, Leslie BegaMartin KoveClu GulagerMarco RodríguezCraig Stark? The fact that you haven't noticed someone in the movie and your friends also haven't noticed her is not exactly a valid point in the movie with cast of hundreds including extras, which likely has at least 5 dozens of cast credits. Especially since it's a Quentin Tarantino movie where, you know, this can happen: 

    This is a credit for extras of a scene in Kill Bill Vol.1 (2003) where virtually everyone is masked and making out who ended up in which shot is virtually impossible. If there is a similar scenario for how Playboy Bunnies are credited in the movie it's rather possible that both credit and appearance could've slipped past you. 
       
    Main cast is a term from television credits which has a well-known and clearly defined meaning: people who have season-wide contracts and are usually credited in each and single episode even if they do not appear. "Main cast" is not a term which is in use for movies, because movies are not episodic. As I've sad earlier, I'm not sure about "principal cast". Anyhow, on IMDb there are listings, not credits. There are listings for credited actors and uncredited actors and in case of movies which are still in cinemas or not yet, there are also credits with no attributes, because no one did a comprehensive word-for-word transcript of end credits.
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    How do u know SS fight team are extras? Do u have any proof they werent hired as stunts? Fight teams r usually stunts.. Nothing has slipped past me. The girl said herself her manager submitted it for exposure. I was there with her as an extra. I have seen the movie so I know for fact she has no credit nor is she seen. I am encouraging u to go see this for yourself since it is your hobby. Than post suggestion here how to prove to IMDB this credit is made up lie. Principal/main cast is cast who is hired on principal contract as an actor. Than there are extras who are hired as extras.
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    Nena, these are indeed considered stunt credits by IMDb standards. I used that as an example that credits on Tarantino movies differ from usual ones, a consistent trait I've seen in most of his movies regarding stunts and cast. 

    Essentially, let's break down what you're saying here: 
    1) You were on the set of this very movie with Elisabeth Ferrara and seen her working as an extra. 
    2) You've heard that her manager put her credit there and also that it was "for exposure", which could've just meant that mere fact of involvement is good exposure. You might argue that you've heard it right, but you keep missing points in this very discussion when repeated numerous times, so I'm not sure on this one. No offence, just an observation.  
    3) Despite you were on set you offer no proof whatsoever that you've been there, so your claim is not exactly substantiated. Actress herself has an IMDb Pro account which is backed by a solid agency in LA. Who has more say in that: essentially anonymous figure claiming that her role is fake or agency which have definitely seen the contract?  
    4) What you're trying to say is that "principal cast" and extras are two very different contract types with SAG-AFTRA?  I won't pretend I'm an expert, but as far as I know SAG-AFTRA contracts are very specific and usually mention smaller parts as bit players on high budget productions if there are spoken lines. However I've never seen a SAG-AFTRA contract which said that bit players are indeed a part of principal cast. I've also never seen the latter term used in such contracts, for that matter. 
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    Nikolay stunts are hired on principal contracts just as actors are. They get residuals as well. They are not extras so their credits should never be compared to extras.
    What I have posted here is that the movie is out, the proof is out. There is no need to speculate if I saw her on set or what she said. There is a fact that she is not in final credits, proof that she was never hired as principal cast / as an actor. So what proof do u think IMDB wants/should get to correct this?
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    Nena, just my five cents on this one: while most background performers know for certain they won't be credited, adding oneself with no role or status is okay in cases when you don't know what is the larger context of a scene and whether will you be credited. Considering that we have a few recent worrying cases of extras credited in stunts for little to no reason, it might be just precautions to not list anything about status and role. 

    Cases like that happen A LOT on major productions (a case from 2012 which was particularly memorable), so your enthusiasm over this particular cases looks like overracting and/or grudge with this particular person. I'm not saying that this is what's going on, but it looks like it, anyway. 

    Also, I'm not exactly sure on what you mean by "principal" cast. If that term includes all credited entries in SAG-AFTRA terminology it's fine but I mostly heard that as another term for main cast in the TV series and/or people in the opening credits. It's worrying to hear that used by one background performer for his work on a TV series recently and then by you because of that: I'm always open to possibility of the fact that it's fault in my knowledge, but I'm not sure on this one case. 
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    Wow...
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    IMDB is declining to remove it again because they want proof. All this talk about contribution rules was waste as I knew it :) how can we mark this conversation as unresolved? Now you guys all know how IMDB works. Keeps fake credits for people :)
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    Nikolaj you are missing the point of this whole conversation. Why is IMDB approving credits for bacgkroung people without any proof?
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    The IMDb site authorities could investigate that if informed of the 18-digit reference number of the submission in which the allegedly fake credit was introduced into the system in the first place.
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    How do we get this IMDB number from the person who submitted this fake credit?
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    gromit82, Champion

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    Jeorj: I am not sure what you mean, because usually only the submitter and the IMDb staff would know the 18-digit reference number of the submission. The rest of us can sometimes determine that a credit listed on IMDb is incorrect, but usually not who submitted the incorrect information, much less the submission reference number.
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    Well this credit has been there for long time. As I said earlier Elizabeth told my friend her manager submitted it for her to get exposure. That is the big question here what proof do they want that someone is not in a movie?
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    That's my point, gromit82! We've been given the impression that a certain somebody was practically standing over the shoulder of the supposed confidence artist responsible for this fiasco.
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    Jeorj ur assuming and speculating too much. Go see the movie and u will have proof for yrself. Than submit it to IMDB :) and than wonder what kind of proof can u provide this person is not in the movie at all :) All I said is I saw the movie so I know this as a fact this person is not credited in final credits nor seen at all :)
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    Speculating is better than making an outright accusation of fraud.
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    What is the fraud here? The movie is out. Are you joking right now?
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    Principal cast mean she had speaking role and credit. Background means no speaking role no credit. Adding oneself as principal as oppose to background when u know u were background is never ok. It is lie. It is the difference between being credited and uncredited :)
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    Nena, IMDb lists different Cast credits. Speaking role or not, credited or not. Whatever the credit or the role is, ”featured background”, ”background actor”, etc type of character names are not accepted.

    So: if you want your credit to be approved on IMDb, you have to take these issues in consideration:
    1) Is your name credited in the actual credits? If not...
    2) ...you should add your name with the attribute ”uncredited” AND you should add a proper character description like ”Woman in the nightclub”, ”Woman in the street”, ”Woman at the party”. Even when the actor only appears in the background and doesn’t have any real lines, she/he is in certain location/place/scene in the film/story.
    3) With ”uncredited” roles, you should probably first confirm that you’re visible (e.g. on the background etc) on the scene in the final cut of the film. Pay stubs and contracts can prove that you worked for the film, but not necessarily prove that you actual appear (on-screen) in the film.
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    Eboy IMDB replied to Ed they want proof. My submission was not the problem :) how do u think spmeone can proof to IMDB that someones credit is fake and they r not in the movie?
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    IMDB DID NOT reply to me. They replied to you.
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    Nena

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    Really? Because u posted here that u will handle the submission and asked for category. So u did that for what purpose?
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    Nena

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    Than u were listing some rules here for why they declined it... ur really not here to help r u?
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    Get real.
    As Nikolay Yerioman pointed out you are focused on this one person.
    There are 50 or so other credits that you do not care about that have the same credit status.
    You are Cyber Bullying all persons here with you single minded attack on Ms. Ferrera.
    Shame on you. You dont care if the database is accurate.
    You are obviously out to do harm to her.
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    Yes as I said this is the only person I know of who submitted fake credit. Why would I possibly be focused on anyone else? Have u used any logic? So now fake credit is attack on person who has fake credit? In what world ? Ed u r just making less and less sense...
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    So say You.
    Your credibility has proven to be unreliable.
    Bye
    Bye
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    My credibility is based on a fact that the movie is out yet ur not willing to go see for yourself because u know I am correct and u will not admit it because u r here to bicker with people not to contribute truthful facts to IMDB :) bye!
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    Ed Jones(XLIX)

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    Thank God
    See ya
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    Yes but this conversation is about removing someone elses fake credit and IMDB declining to remove it based on no facts. Girl is hired as background. Gets approved for real credit for no reason. Person submits this false credit to IMDB and they decline to remove it even though they have the information this person was not hired as main cast actor but as background. Why do they keep credit for this girl once they know she was background and is not credited in movie? Shouldnt they logically remove it once they know she is not credited in the movie? No matter if she was seen as background or was background at all or what category background she was.. who cares. Point is she is not part of credited main cast so they have no business appproving her credit as main cast.
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    Seems that anyone can submit any credit on IMDB and just hope it ll get approved doesnt matter if they actually worked on that movie or not. IMDB employees approve without any facts most likely based on their moods :)
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    No, that's not how it works. Ideally you provide some backing for your credit: call sheet, SAG-AFTRA agreement, etc. That is especially relevant in cases when there are not much of credits. 
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    That is how it works. Call sheet will not help u get credit. The only way to get credit is to have your name listed in final credits :) do your research. Lets say u book a part on project but they forget to put your name in final credits on screen. IMDB will not approve it. The only proof they go by is screenshot of final credits if u do bit research in this page u will find this out :)

    Also why are you defending IMDB approving fake credits? It is very strange. Are you saying IMDB should keep fake credits?
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    It depends upon whether the production status is correctly set to "released" or not. There really should be something in the IMDb Help articles to clarify this.
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    No to first post for removal. No one has provided proof that it does not belong.

    IMDB requires proof that a removal is warranted. Not just some say so by a contributor. Exception is the original submitter of the title page.

    Your attempt to correct without reading the rules first is your fault.

    Second post is a fabrication and a lie

    Seems that anyone can submit any credit on IMDB and just hope it ll get approved doesnt matter if they actually worked on that movie or not.
    True then/and False 
    Anyone can contribute. Hope is not in play. It actually matters if they worked on it.
    IMDB employees approve without any facts most likely based on their moods :)
     LIE
    Approval on Moods? Please! 

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    No one has provided proof that it does belong :)
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    So are you saying they declined your request to remove it? Now who wants to go to theater and send photos of her name "not in final credits" meaning u take photo of all credits? How ridiculous is that
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    #190727-163104-647000



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    I watched the movie. Shes not seen at all and no credit as I said :)
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    So Ed since u r experience contributor how will u resolve this? Are u going to movie theater to take photos of final credits? Or nothing anyone can do and IMDB says inaccurate ? Does it bother u they approve fake credits?
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    61 Posts........... 2 Likes
    3 or 4 Submissions............ 3 or 4 Rejections
    See the pattern?
    IMDb's sandbox..........IMDb's Rules.
    Play by the rules as explained............Or Don't.
    Don't play by the rules...............Suspension from the school.
    You have basically been temporarily suspended/rejected.


    Please move along.
    You're not swaying anyone's opinion.
    Your attempt to now reverse your original statement that she was in the movie as featured background and are now claiming that she is not in the movie because you went to see it and did not see her is now made your credibility questionable or shall we say not trustworthy.

    Your attempts to disrupt other posts and threads in this community has not gone unnoticed either.

    I would ask that you respect others posts and not SPAM them with your comments.
    I would ask that you respect the staff at IMDb and not question their "Moods" as a means by which they make decisions.
    I would ask that you respect others that are here to help you and all that come here to do so.
    I would ask that you not use swearwords in your posts.
    I would ask that you stop replying further to every single person in attempt to just be disruptive.
    Please accept these requests.
    Thank you.
    :)
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    Who has been suspended from what? What school? Do u have solution on how to remove this fake credit? Otherwise everything else u post is useless :) so u r not bothered by the fact IMDB approves fake credits than :) I see :) why do u post here than?
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    Metaphorically speaking.
    You are not getting the point.
    You have no point.
    A Solution is NOT needed.

    By the way............It is why do you post here then, not than.
    If you cannot wrap your brain around the concept of common sense, THEN there is no hope of you understanding the rules in play here.
    Please stop SPAMMING your own post.
    Thanks
    :)
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    U need to post resolutions here not personal attacks :) do u have any? If not stop posting :) no one cares about your frustrations and psychological issues :) This girls manager submitted fake credit for her to get exposure. That is what she told my friend. So of u have any resolution to how to remove this fake credit feel free to post. Do not post any personal attacks here no one is interested. IMDB is wrong in doing what they did and continue doing. Employees are negligent, lazy and require people to post ridiculous proof as for example proof u r not in movie. Meaning send photo of all credits. How difficult is it to crop someone name out from screenshot? Not at all so what kind of proof is that? Ridiculous :) I have seen this ridiculous request in numerous posts here in this forum:) The manager who submitted this fake credit should be banned from contributing in future and IMDB need to change their policies and employee training. They need to not approve any credits until
    proof is submitted. Not the other way around :)
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    Also Ed stop spamming my posts with yr nonsense :) u have no resolution to remove this fake credit so no need for u to say another word here :) u r rude and unhelpful. Others already said same about u from previous experiences.
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    Nena, again, please see the ”General rules” part from the IMDb guide for ”uncredited” credits. If certain conditions are met, ”uncredited” credits for so-called background/extra actors are accepted. Important part is that the actor actually appears on the screen and is identifiable.

    I’m just stating the general facts here, obviously it’s case-by-case what are actually accepted etc. Uncredited credits can be tricky in some cases (as it probably should be).

    ”General Rules =

    The following credits are likely to be discarded:

    * Submissions with an empty character field or with descriptions such as "lead", "supporting" or "featured".

    * We will accept "background" or "extra" if that's how the credit appears on screen, but "background", "extra" or "bit-part" will not be accepted as a character name on the title if the role does not receive an on-screen credit. If that is the case the character name should include a description of the part - Woman with Dog, for instance - and (uncredited) in the 'attribute' box. But see below - they must be recognizable.

    * It is not enough to have just worked on a production: Their scenes must be included in the final cut and it must be possible to easily identify their appearance.
    Background/extra work as a crowd member (or a similar role where it's impossible to recognize the subject)

    ( https://help.imdb.com/article/contrib... )
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    Ok so look. U posted that submissions with empty character will be discarted. So her credit right now has empty character. Why was it approved? What rules do they actually go by?
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    That's the thing. The items are not necessarily declined. If the production status is "production unknown", "announced", "pre-production", "abandoned", "filming", "post-production" or "completed", then there is a strong chance that there will be some cast listing items that have empty role fields, perhaps added as part of the same submission as the title page creation process. Anyway, IMDb's policies are not always candid, clear and consistent, so sometimes we run into these "paradoxes", for lack of a better word. The policies are also subject to change, and whenever it does happen, data articles are not always updated to meet the newer guidelines. Also, sometimes updates are incorrectly approved or incorrectly declined, as it can go both ways. On occasion, there are updates that will be approved yet still do not go live, due to some kind of glitch. IMDb is a work-in-progress.
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    They do not want the truth Jeorj.
    They want people that agree with them
    You are now the 6rh person that has explained it as it is done.
    Thank you.
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    This movie has been released. Proof is out. IMDB doenst want truth? Wow ok so I hope all actors here start submitting their made up credits good luck everyone :)
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    The treaty in the park has failed!
    This has happened before and............................

    Image result for battlestar galactica all of this has happened before and will happen again
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    The fact that IMDB approves fake credits is wrong. Ed is rude he should be banned from this forum. Why are people here concerned about anything else other than the fact that this fake credit is still there?
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    I agree. Anyone knows if it is possible to block rude people here like Ed?
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    When IMDB approves fake credit based on no actual proof they are being disrespectful towards the real actors and towards this whole industry. It is plain wrong.
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    Dear John.
    You asked that IMDb remove all your posts.
    They complied.
    Yet here you are.
    Shall I broach the subject with IMDb of your posting on topics just because you feel the need to contribute what.
    You have made no direct constructive help here.
    I'm am direct.
    I have not called anyone any names, nor have I violated any policy.
    Contribute please.
    Attacking any Individual just because you have a perceived concept of rude is inappropriate and you should discontinue.

    Dear Nena.
    Pretty much the same thing applies for you also.
    You lost Your argument, so you see fit to attack the messengers.
    Me and IMDb staff. You have stated that they make approvals based on their moods.
    You have said this twice. Once here and once while spamming another post.

    Conclusion for both of you please.

    I will not reply further on this post because you have been given the same answer here by 5 sources.

    If either of you reply here, it is because of the need to have the last word.
    Have at it.
    This is not mine nor your playground. (IMDb's database)
    Their rules are all that matter or apply.
    Accept them.
    I do.
    The other 3 do.
    And the employee Meredith is only doing her job applying those rules made by the founder of the website.

    Stop attacking the messengers.

    Cheers
    Thanks for giving your opinions
    :):)
    Ed
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    Dear Ed once again you are no help to anyone just keep wasting time here on posting nonsense and no resolution. :) please unfollow this post :)
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    Ed have good day. No one is interested in personal attacks and yet again you are no help :)
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    Nena: Please clarify for me the following: Is Elisabeth Ferrera clearly visible on screen in the movie Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood?

    Is her name listed in the on-screen credits?

    If she is visible, but her name is NOT listed in the on-screen credits, then her IMDb listing should be corrected to (1) add a character description and (2) add the attribute (uncredited).

    If she is visible, but her name IS listed in the on-screen credits, then her IMDb listing should be corrected to add her character name as listed in the credits, or if there is no character name listed for her in the credits despite her name being listed, to add a character description.

    If she is not visible, and her name is NOT listed in the on-screen credits, then her IMDB cast listing for this film should be deleted.

    If she is not visible (nor audible), but her name IS listed in the on-screen credits, then her IMDb cast listing should be corrected to add the attribute (scenes deleted) because you say that she did work on the film, and if she has a character name, that should be added as well.

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    Hello Gromit thank you for help. Answer is no shes not visible, not audible, no credit in final credits. I have watched the movie as well. It is one big NO to all. Her IMDB should be deleted.
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    Nena: Thank you for giving me a clear answer to my questions. However, by contrast, Ed has written above and in the other related thread that Elisabeth is seen in the uncredited role of a Hollywood Blvd. pedestrian. So I suspect that we will have to wait for the IMDb staff to settle this dispute.
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    Yes but the problem is Ed submitted a lie. She is never seen. Ed only submitted what he heard which was she worked as background category as pedestrian. Not that she was seen as one :) Ed shouldnt be submitting untrue statements if that is what he said.
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    If Elisabeth Ferrera neither is credited in nor appears in Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood, then her name will eventually be removed from the cast listing on IMDb for this movie.

    To whom it may concern, please be mindful of the following policy:
    IMDb tracks each contributor's accuracy over time and if any contributor repeatedly submits data which is inaccurate or which violates our policies, their contributions will require increasing levels of additional proof in order to be processed.
    (https://contribute.imdb.com/charter)
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    Eventually based on what do u think? What proof do u think they want? Transcript of all final credits?
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    Nena, yes, transcript of end credits is practically a standard procedure when adding a new title or updating one which recently had a video release. In many cases enthusiasts mange to piece together a nearly complete cast over a few screenings and/or it also gets submitted by someone from the crew. 
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    I see. Well actors can really score with these fake credits than good to know :) IMDB policy and practice is very dissapointing and disrespectful towards real actors who earn their credits.
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    Nena, for the time being, we (you, Ed, Nikolay, gromit82 and I) have done all that we can do, short of posting a URL to a copy of the entire movie here. We will see, sooner or later, if ljdoncel or JamesMMM, who usually could elucidate these matters, has anything to add. Just to note, Meredith would not have responded the way she has if she believed what you've told us.
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    Well Meredith needs to go watch the movie than and get the facts. She has 1 job to do. This is what I am saying. They go by what they believe not facts? Are they playing psychics here? That is why they r so inaccurate and have so many complaints. Joerj will u go see the movie and than care to ask them to remove it since u r probably very credible to them? I was wondering what they approve this on.. so it is on what they believe which is basically same as their mood. Not facts. Dissappointing. I have heard from many people how inaccurate IMDB is but now Im just shocked . I will make sure to let all my actor friends know about this. That IMDB goes by what the employee believes not by facts :)
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    Ed is back. Ed I have posted a decline on that submission. They stated they need proof or explanation. Explanation was provided. Would u care to go see movie and since u r so credible to them submit it? It seems they go by "who submits it" rather than facts.
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    To be fair, Meredith was never informed of the reference number for the submission that would unlink the name entry from the title entry. Maybe it would help for that to be presented, on the notion that the actress in question does not appear in the movie at all.
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    There is a lot of maybes and speculations but the FACT is out. SHE HAS NO CREDIT IN FINAL CREDITS AND SHES NOT SEEN IN THE MOVIE. So once again u guys need to stop speculating together with Meredith and all IMDB employees. To me u guyr all joke because Im here to help IMDB be accurate and u r doing the opposite? That is insane :)
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    A JOKE!
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    Ed is back. Ed I have posted a decline on that submission

    NO SUCH THING

    But you did post a topic.
    Feeling your ghost
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    Nena, in that case, please submit a deletion and disclose the reference number of the submission here. If there is a prior submission to that effect, then instead just share the reference number of that one instead.
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    Nena has deleted her profile but sent this to me is this what you wanted?
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    Hi, John J. Thanks for sharing the reference number (#190727-040952-210000). This should be useful to the IMDb site authorities as far as rectifying the issue at hand. Just to note, Nena may have been removed from here against her will, on account of her behavior on the forum. I believe if I'm correct that it's possible for her account to be reinstated at a later time.
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    Also here it continues. So they want proof. If any of you contributors are going to see this movie woohoo problem solved. No one needs to insult one another anymore! The fact is why would anyone lie about movie that is out and anyone can verify that information? Makes no sense. Simple logic can be used often when things are not clear. But not many people are able to use it ...
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    Jeorj Nena wasnt removed. She deleted her account herself would u like a screenshot of that as well?
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    Nena sent this which clearly says user request
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    That won't be necessary, John J.
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    I encourage the contributors to go see this movie so IMDB has credible sources for this.
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    The fact is why would anyone lie about movie that is out

    You mean as Nena has done. This was an attack on one actress. She did not care about any of the other like credited (Over 30) that have the same credit status.
    An IMDb employee already rejected His/Her submission. What makes Him/Her think a new submission is gonna do?

    And Him/Her deleted the account? Not likely. It was probably suspended as She/He got entangled with an IMDb Get Satisfaction Champion. A very Nice Champion.
    A very calm collected Champion. That does not go unnoticed here.

    John, your motives as stated is to expose IMDb's negligence............................Not to help the accuracy. You are plain and simply here to agitate only.
    Please discontinue. To act on another's behalf would make you a sockpuppet account de-facto for Nena. You are not the poster of this post. You made no submission.

    Here is your earlier reply and your real intentions
    Please discontinue to act in this manner.
    Thanks
    Cheers
    :):)

    I Am Here To Expose IMDb's Negligence


    Your Words
    Your Post
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    But "USER_REQUEST: USER REQUESTED" does not indicate which user. Where is the mechanism is provided for a non-admin user to suspend his or her own privileges? The only options is for a person to delete his or her entire GS account, which removes the account from all communities hosted through GS.
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    No Ed. I mean as Nena hasnt done. You did not get the point? Why would she lie about movie that is out and anyone can verify that information? That means she did not lie. U can verify that information as well instead of constantly attacking her. Spend yor time on this in wiser way. You continue to attack. There is no point of lying about movie that is out and you can go watch yourself you just need to use little logic to get to that conclusion. Im sorry you have problem to admit she is credible and you are not willing to get the fact yourself just so you can continue to bicker here. I have posted a screenshot as proof that Nena has requested to be removed not an administrator or anyone. Sorry to dissapoint you. You are just not helping IMDB to be accurate at all.
    Ed are you saying that reporting fake credits are attacks on actors? You are just not making sense here.
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    Request by user means it was not requested by administrator. Users can not remove other users. You guys are once again bickering about unrelared staff.
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    So everyone. Ed is saying that request to remove fake credit is "attack on actor". Does this make sense to anyone here?
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    No need for questioning anyones credibility when you have proof in theaters. I question your logics here as well as employees of IMDB.
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    I guess I'm the User Request, along with Nikolay Yerioman. He sent me a direct e-mail that said he talked with the community managers about Nenad's behavior. They acted.
    They suspended him.
    You can't spin that any other way John.

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    Ed you are contributor. Sorry to dissapoint but I was with her so I saw her do it. You are instigator who is here to bicker and bicker. Just unpleasent person to deal with.
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    thanks
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    Care to state your real name, or shall I.
    I did archive your posts.
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    If you saw her do it, so state your name and provide proof.
    This is the same thing you could or would not supply to IMDb the last time.
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    Ed you keep harassing users here. I do not need to prove anything to you. I know the truth and I know how you lie here. I know the facts you dont and you are angry about it and keep harassing people about it. YET! THE MOVIE IS OUT SO YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF. Stop harassing people who try to remove fake credits here. Saying removing fake credit is attack on actor. You have no sense of logic. You should not be contributor. I am not the first one who said it nor the last one I bet.
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    So Ed instead of harassing users here are you going to see this movie and than post here what you saw? Instead of speculating here and wasting everyones time?
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    See below
    Bye
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    Ed Jones (XLIX) I'm actually not sure on what happened, but it's rather likely he deleted himself because he said something about that. 
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    The red sign above says community managers.
    That looks like a get satisfaction managers action, not IMDb Manager action.
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    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Wait so u work for IMDB or how do u get to warn people here?.

    Wait so u work for IMDB or how do u get to warn people here? I am confused... if u r so close to IMDB why are u not able to remove fake credit?

    Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: proofs aka screenshots of cast list sent to IMDB yet they don't want to remove th....
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    Ed. As Gromit stated she is not seen in the movie therefore her credit should be deleted all together. No one cares if she was pedestrian and where or not. As long as you keep acting as sockpuppet to IMDB I will act as one for anyone I please. You are just so unpleasent.
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    She/he is suspended. She/he are not credible. You are here to disrupt.
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    I Am Here To Expose IMDb's Negligence
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    The are your words above
    Please discontinue as your only purpose is to argue and disrupt.
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    That is correct Ed. I know the truth as I have watched the movie and you do not know the truth as you havent. So I can say that IMDB is very negligent based on the fact that I have watched this movie. You, IMDB employees and all contributors on the other hand can not say anything as you have not watched the movie. You are here to bicker and speculate and annoy.
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    There is words of other users about you being rude I read it. You are just so unpleasent. Unbelievable. Just bicker bicker speculate instigate assume.
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    Yeah 13,000 posts and 20-30 of them have people that wont listen to reason such as you. Most of them were suspended. They had the same agenda as you. Disruption of operations. If I was as you say I am then my likes ratio would be like yours. Less than posts. Mine exceed my posts. Any other non valid points you'd like to bring up.
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    Oh and post away. That was my last. Wasting time on you is not a priority.
    
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    Yes Ed. But are you finally going to post about the real problem here? Consider that the FACTS are out and it doesnt matter how many likes your profile has it wont change the FACTS? How to remove fake credit? Care perharps go watch the movie? Because no one here is interested in your other "conspiracy theories" or whatever the heck is it that your posting. Personal attacks, likes, speculations, accusations, assumptions. Care about FACTS?
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    NO
    Cant you read
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    Well if you dont than you should not post here and be a contributor. Why are you here? Are you here to harass users who complain about IMDB?
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    Bye everyone discontinuing to avoid constant harassment from Ed. Posted enough information for contributors to verify the facts good luck contributing and keeping IMDB accurate! Lets get these fake submissions cleaned out! :)
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    The above was John J. Now may he rest in Period.
    His new name became       "  .  "
    Alas poor period, I knew him well, John J a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times, and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! For he hath abandoned us in our time of need. I miss him already. Come back sweet John J.

    https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/kat_p_jcofh5jrwf662



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