Trans people’s deadnames aren’t information that people are entitled to see. It’s equivalent to posting someone’s home address. Just because it’s true, doesn’t mean people should see it. It is information that can and will be used against them. This needs to stop.
Also Governmental agency's and Birth Records are never changed. You are what you are at birth. From this you cannot hide.
John Wayne was Marion Michael Morrison
Cary Grant was Archibald Leach
Kirk Douglas was Issur Danielovitch
Karl Malden was Mladen Sekulovich
There are thousands in the database that have their birth name listed right along with their stage names.
It is interesting trivia.
IMDb is a database of Hard and Trivial Facts about Actors.
No one has "Special" Status.
If so, it's pretty difficult to retroactively change how you're credited in a film, show, etc. that many people likely have a copy of. Therefore, regardless of why you may have later changed your name, your credits need to match how you were credited in said work. (This policy applies to everyone, even if they may personally want to become disassociated with their past work - including for example former porn stars.)
If your IMDb history is entirely after you (socially) transitioned, and the issue is IMDb putting your birth name in the biography section, you probably have a better defense (especially if you're not out to the public, since this runs contrary to IMDb prohibiting mentioning medical information on their pages - and in most cases a transperson's birth name effectively gives away their history). However, if there is a pragmatic reason for mentioning the birth name (like matching up work history that is under that name) then you are less likely to be successful.
If you look at Wikipedia's policy on handling transpeople's birth names it follows a similar spirit as my opinion - if you were notable under the old name and mentioning it is necessary to meaningfully identify what you're known for then they list the name, otherwise they typically don't (or at least not mention it in the first sentence like they generally do).
That and even if fully deleted attributes will be reinstated on short notice by users who casually re-check the credits for differences.
You need to understand that there is a difference between people in the present (and post-coming-out past) refusing to acknowledge your gender identity, and asking that references in credits that were accurate at the time (and practically impossible to change in said works) be altered.
Why are we discussing this anyway.
The topic is pure nonsense as is the supposition of harm to anyone ever happening.
Guide dog example is hogwash.
This is a non issue. It is an issue perceived only. Lets put up a traffic light on every corner. It Maybe Might save a life.
I want a change in my name to protect me from transgendered people. I need it so that they will be fooled into thinking I'm one of them. That way they wont be in a situation that leads to my early demise. I need that protection now. See how silly that sounds!
Please leave Kati alone.
If there is nothing any further said, Kati can type to no one about nothing.
It will live forever. Un-eraseable for eternity.
This is a public forum.
It is out there.
And it actually makes trans people reluctant to work in the film industry: https://twitter.com/maemorrigan/status/1133462355202007040
Updated: May 26, 2019
It's tough when your parents or other family members don't accept you or other people for being transgender. Whether you’ve come out to them or you feel passionately about standing up for the rights of all people, dealing with your parent’s transphobia can be difficult. As difficult as it seems, try and be understanding of their emotions and reactions and give your parents space to experience them. Reach out for support outside of your home by making supportive friends, meeting allies, and joining a support group. Be patient and stay hopeful.
- For example, say, “I think it’s important to stand up for trans people. Many trans people already feel marginalized, so it’s important to me to be there and support them.”
- You can also say, “I don’t know what it feels like to feel unsafe, but they do. I want to help trans people feel safe.”
- If you can’t talk about trans issues without getting upset or blowing up at each other, you might want to drop it. You can’t change their minds, and you may have to agree to disagree.
- Your goal should be to allow both you and your parents to make yourselves heard, not to change each other's opinions.
- For example, say, “I know you disagree with me on some big things, but I still need to feel like your kid. Please don’t leave me out of family get-togethers or stop giving me hugs.”
- It’s inappropriate to demand your parents to pay for reassignment surgery. However, you may ask them to see if insurance will cover other procedures.
- You’ve had some time to sit with it and realize that you’re transgender, but they have not. They might feel shocked, hurt, disappointed, or confused. Give them some time to process and accept what you tell them.
- The hurt caused by not feeling accepted by your parents may be confused by the fact that you love them and want them in your life. At some point, your parents may soften and realize they want a good relationship with you, too.
IMDb did not Deadname.
Contributors made the contribution. Not IMDb.
The submitter of the credit did the deed.
IMDb accepted the contribution, for which there was no objection. The submissions and the on screen credits match.
Got any further problems?
Seek out the contributor.
Seek out the production Company that listed the credit.
IMDb is only reproducing what it sees.
Now that you have the "Facts" there is nothing to discuss.
Seek out those that this should be addressed to.
This forum is not the place for a political grandstanding.
Staying "UNTIL" you get action is a rather presumptuous act on your part.
You will not get anywhere.
You have the intelligence to see that your efforts are going to be fruitless.
The challenge at the lowest level of "scrutiny" would be: Was the policy created with discriminatory intent or not? Or, with the issue of deadnames specifically: Do they deadname transpeople but don't mention old/real names when talking about non-transgender people who've changed their name or who go by a different name than their legal name? IMDb would certainly win on that point.
The next question would be: Is there an important reason for the policy? This is where IMDb's two areas of deadnaming concerns (in the biography section and in the credits) would likely diverge.
With the former, the trans community has a reasonable shot at winning, since publishing birth names* as part of one's biography (when one has no relevant history under it) is not important in IMDb's mission. *Publishing "real names" when one uses a different one professionally (e.g. stage names) would be more defensible from IMDb's perspective than publishing one's birth name when it has been changed for personal reasons not related to their career (including but not limited to trans people) - this is why if IMDb does not want to give "special treatment" to trans people my suggestion would be to institute a "professional vs. personal" distinction in how birth names are treated in biographies.
With the latter, IMDb is more likely to prevail, since mentioning all (qualifying) credits that one has is an important function for IMDb's mission, and mentioning the name(s) that said credits are under is important for properly identifying them (otherwise, as I've said, when someone sees the name in the credits in the work and on IMDb there would be practical confusion).
The final question that would be asked in a legal challenge would be: Are there any alternatives that could achieve the goal that would have less of an impact on the group? The trans community prevailing even here would be iffy, since like I've said you can't go back and retroactively change your name in works that have already been released. In the more marginal cases, like trans people who are credited with their birth name only in some obscure school project that the general public likely wouldn't have copies of, there might be a defense in redacting the name there - but that is not likely to apply when one has used the name professionally in movies/shows/etc. that have been made public at large. I know that's unfair to transgender people who've transitioned at later points in their life, but this issue is about pragmatic identification and not mentioning old wrong-gender names for the purpose of erasing one's gender identity.
Finally, here's an analogy I thought of when comparing the two deadnaming situations: There has been a push by many for schools to get rid of early start times in the morning. Sometimes schools start early because of the preferences of teachers, coaches, etc. while other times it's for reasons like there aren't enough buses and bus drivers to have everyone in the district start at the same time. The former is analogous to publishing birth names out of standard practice without being a true necessity (a "cultural change" that would be easy to implement in practice), while with the latter you have practical obstacles that you can't just change by decree alone (at least not without likely shifting the issues elsewhere).
This post is fruitless and will remain so until the 22nd century or therabouts
You are believing that .6% of a population should get special treatment that no one else can get.
That's why this is going N O W H E R E.
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