IMDb Top 250 TV(beta) List Released!

  • 26
  • Announcement
  • Updated 5 years ago
Today we are happy to announce the release of the Top 250 TV (beta) list on IMDb!  Similar to the Top 250 Movies list, the Top 250 TV (beta) list ranks TV shows as rated by regular users.  Check out the list, vote on your favorites, and let us know what you think of the release.  The list can be seen here on your desktop:  http://www.imdb.com/chart/toptv , and under the 'TV' menu on IMDb apps and mobile browsers.  

Thanks, and we hope you enjoy the new list!
Photo of Paul K

Paul K

  • 3 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes

Posted 5 years ago

  • 26
Photo of Nobody

Nobody

  • 1455 Posts
  • 707 Reply Likes
Here is one example of a very good but very old show that is almost forgotten by most,
and therefore will never make the Top 250, even if it deserves a place on the list:

   "The Defenders"  (1961-65)
  
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054531/reviews

Consider these typical excerpts from viewers' reviews:
This landmark TV series (1961-65) was years ahead of its time. It [dealt with] many contemporary stories from the headlines and did so with uncompromising depth. ...
This was an amazing show -- tackling issues headfirst
that other shows wouldn't even mention. ...
... This was one of those shows that broke [every] taboo with subjects that were too rowdy for television back then. This show was the [forerunner of] other successful courtroom shows to follow. ...
... Incredibly groundbreaking ....
Was this the best dramatic TV series ever? ...
... This was the most socially conscious show ever.
... The bottom line is that this show was incredibly groundbreaking because if was one of the first TV shows to deal with contemporary controversial social issues, something no other show before or on on at the same time did, making it one of the most realistic shows of its time. it also paved the way for socially conscious shows that came after it. ...
THE WIRE, DEADWOOD, MAD MEN, OZ, BREAKING BAD and THE SOPRANOS are all good shows. Put in the context of their eras, not one compares to what THE DEFENDERS achieved. It still has the power to enrage. ... THE DEFENDERS was a top-30 show when there were only three channels. It won 13 Emmies .... There's a reason both MAD MEN and BOSTON LEGAL paid tribute to THE DEFENDERS ....
(I apologize for the length of these excerpts that I chose to include here.  All credit attribution goes to the authors, whose user names can be found on the review page at the link above.)

The aforementioned series is just one example (among others) of a good show that seems to be too old for the Top 250.  (The show has only 232 user rating votes!)

I previously suggested the idea of a "Top Classic TV" list -- or, I'm now thinking, multiple lists by decade -- preferably curated by volunteers.  Of course, such lists would naturally begin with the most famous golden oldies -- but the "curated" sections of such lists could also include unjustly neglected classics that have low vote counts but deserve to be honored.
(Edited)
Photo of John Webb

John Webb

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Don't see ' Waking The Dead ' here at all,Brilliant series with a great cast,top ratings everywhere
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
It is not rated highly enough by users and does not have enough votes even, to qualify for inclusion.

Both of these, or one or the other, are why individual titles are not on the list.
Photo of Hampus Eriksson

Hampus Eriksson

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Nice!! But can you remove mini series!! I mean its not nice that planet earth is number 2!
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
You can create your own version by using  "advanced title search" and including/excluding anything you want.
Photo of Avenzel

Avenzel

  • 8 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
Where on that page is Advanced Title Search?
Photo of Avenzel

Avenzel

  • 8 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
Thanks, got it. But it's not Top 250 TV based so it doesn't really help.
Photo of Thomas Ford

Thomas Ford

  • 10 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
You are right, or wrong, but in all fairness the "Planet Earth" should be ranked #1, and all others ranked at #2, as all the rest are but a small part of the Planet. In fact it should be ranked number #1 based on merit alone.
Photo of Daniel Morawitz

Daniel Morawitz

  • 3 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
Remove mini series?! Why? Its not like tv is only limited to tv shows. A mini series is also a kind of show
Photo of john johnson

john johnson

  • 1 Post
  • 1 Reply Like
I thought perhaps, because of production values and very good acting performances, series like The Borgias and The Tudors could have been included.
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
They both have enough votes but probably are not rated highly enough by regular users. They both seem close and might be on the list from time to time, based on ratings for them and for other shows. It's not a one time, make it or don't list. It'll change over time as votes are cast.
Photo of Jahr

Jahr

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Where is the Turkish TV show Leyla ile Mecnun? With its score it should've been in the top 20 so where is it?
Photo of Alex Hamm

Alex Hamm

  • 2 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
I think the rating system shouldn't be similar to the way the Top 250 movies are rated (couldn't find exact equation) because people rate TV by episode, season and overall. Whilst I love Dr. Horrible I find it hard to believe it's actually in people's top 250 list, especially as it was web based only and compared to TV had a smaller viewership.
This algorithm needs to be more precise and factor in a lot more variables for it to be more accurate. 
In my opinion at least.
Photo of Abdul Salam

Abdul Salam

  • 2 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
i have a great suggestion i think , first thank you IMDB , you're great as usual.my suggestion is make it possible to rate the tv series by seasons because some shows are great in their first seasons and then they decline, such as prison break , true detective , justified, lost...etc so when i see true detective rated 9.2 i am sure that's for the first season not the second one which was terrible...i don't know i hope you got my point...allow us to rate each season apart and then let the result take in consideration the average rating of all seasons ..
Photo of Abdul Salam

Abdul Salam

  • 2 Posts
  • 1 Reply Like
thank you Sir for replying, i m glad some one ( at least ) agrees with me.
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
If you search "rate series by season" there are existing suggestion threads. You shoud post there and vote to support the idea rather than comment here about that different topic.
Photo of Raj

Raj

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
This list mixes 'television series' like Breaking Bad and The Wire, with 'mini-series' like Band of Brothers. Even though both are television programming, there still quite different in nature and unfair to compare side by side. They should be separated out, or this list should at least give us the option to sort by such categories, as well by genres. 
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
You can always do that yourself with advanced search. There's no need for duplication.
Photo of Buse Balkan

Buse Balkan

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Maybe you'd like to exclude documentaries.
Photo of Dvir Ben Asuli

Dvir Ben Asuli

  • 5 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
It's a great idea, Iv'e been wanting you to do this for years. And the list itself is very nice. Just one very important thing- keep the documentary shows away from theis list, they have no place in it, just like documentary movies don't have a place in the movies Top 250.
Photo of Bryce Shinohara

Bryce Shinohara

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
The scores seen on list are different than each show's individual page usually with deviations by like 0.1 or 0.2. The same goes for IMDb Top 250 Movies. It doesn't sound like much but it changes the order drastically. 
Photo of John Wayne Pilgrim

John Wayne Pilgrim

  • 3 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
I've never even heard of 90% of the shows on this list.  There are great classics not even in the Top-250....while mediocrity (at least the ones I recognize) fills-up the top spots.
(Edited)
Photo of PJ

PJ

  • 5 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
It's a good list, but Doctor Who is ranked way too low on it. The overall idea, feeling and message of Doctor Who is what makes it amazing. Doctor Who should be higher on the list because of the wide range of audience and tone that it captivates, and also the thought evoking episodes that leave you reeling in front of the TV like Family of Blood, Listen, Forest of the Dead and Blink.
Photo of Chester McGurdy

Chester McGurdy

  • 4 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
What about The Honeymooners? 8.7 rating but not on the list. 
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
Honeymooners does not have enough votes to be on the list.
Photo of Chester McGurdy

Chester McGurdy

  • 4 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
I realize it doesn't have enough votes but it still should be here regardless.  Dr. Horrible's Sing-a-Long Blog is on here and that was an internet release and not even a series. They should use a little common sense compiling this list.
Photo of Pencho15

Pencho15

  • 2069 Posts
  • 2464 Reply Likes

I love to see this new top 250. Personally I don't think the minimum votes should be increased. I check and out of all the tv series in the database only a little above 1000 have 5,000 votes, so we are watching at over 20% of all eligible titles. The lower minimum compared to movies allows for lesser known but respectable tv series to find their place in the list and to be dicovered by more curious people, otherwirse it would only be a list of most popular series.

Also I don't join my voice to those who want to separate documentaries, if fantastic series have convinced so many people of their value in a way that four of them are in the top 10, then its perfect for them to get the recognition and extra exposure win by those fantastic places. I know documentaries are not allowed in the regular top 250, but that's something I personally don't share, congratulations to cosmos and Planet Earth for their fantastic showing. And if there are vote manipulators giving it one, then shame on them, but it should be known by know that this rating only picks regular voters precisely to avoid that gross manipulation to take effect, if there are thousands of new #1 votes for Planet Life after the release of the top 250 then it has not worked cause the series is still going strong, and now I'm interested in watching it and eventually will.

Photo of Thomas Ford

Thomas Ford

  • 10 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
In all fairness the "Planet Earth" should be ranked #1, and all others ranked at #2, as all the rest are but a small part of the Planet. In fact it should be ranked number #1 based on merit alone.
Photo of Daniel Chung

Daniel Chung

  • 19 Posts
  • 5 Reply Likes

Great post. If we currently applied the same 25,000 benchmark as for movies, the 250th best show would be rated 7.2, and there would only be 281 eligible shows. Sure, you could cut down that list but to me that defeats the purpose. If your top movies list can have 250, then TV can and should as well. If anything, I would lower the benchmark even more, but I'm willing to accept 5,000 as a compromise.

As for documentaries, I 100% agree. What I do find surprising is that no news shows made it onto the list. (I count stuff like The Daily Show or John Oliver's show as talk shows) Yet so many people watch the news every day. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. From many of the comments here, that seems to be in line with so many people wanting to have some sort of separation between their entertainment and their learning/news/non-fiction/documentary-watching. At least, I hope it's a case of wanting separation rather than simple disinterest in the various documentary/news/whatever programs.

Photo of Hailey Shannon

Hailey Shannon

  • 20 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes
When are you going to do a Bottom 100, I need some shows to ridicule!
Photo of Beverly Dancy

Beverly Dancy

  • 3 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled There are a lot of great shows missing from this list. The Buffy fans are alread....

There are a lot of great shows missing from this list. The Buffy fans are already up in arms. No Dark Shadows? No Outer Limits? Why are only a select few cartoons listed - No Scooby Doo of Looney Tunes? My Favorite Martian, Mr. Ed and 100 others. It would have been wise to consult your base before releasing this list.
Photo of Justin Scarelli

Justin Scarelli

  • 6 Posts
  • 0 Reply Likes
Where is Gilmore Girls, The Good Wife?
Photo of Brianna Lazar

Brianna Lazar

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Just curious why the Originals is nowhere on there. It has more that 5000 votes, has an 8.5 rating, and has aired more than 5 episodes.
Photo of vignesh mj

vignesh mj

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
Where Is person of interest .It has around 100000 votes for 8.5 .It is not in the list but The knick is in the list which has 8.5 from 15000 votes.Cant understand your rating
(Edited)
Photo of Vishakan Vasudevan

Vishakan Vasudevan

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes
List is too long. Trim to 100. Increase the minimum votes. If possible set a criteria for number of episodes aired. Also create a list for Top 25 current running TV series.
Photo of John Wayne Pilgrim

John Wayne Pilgrim

  • 3 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
There NEEDS to be a separate list for each decade.  This grading method is NOT FAIR to the older classic shows.  This list is a complete and utter joke, as I'm sure everyone agrees.
(Edited)
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
You can create such a list on your own with advanced search. Not all search results need to be pre-made and placed on the page. There would literally be millions.
Photo of John Wayne Pilgrim

John Wayne Pilgrim

  • 3 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
There are many garbage shows in the Top-50 simply because they're currently on the air.  And there are shows that deserve to be in the Top-10 that aren't even in the Top-250.  What a joke!
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
If you don't like it, don't use it. Create your own with advanced search.
Photo of Alex Jowski

Alex Jowski

  • 1 Post
  • 3 Reply Likes
I feel there should be a separation between TELEVISION series and INTERNET series.  Some shows, like Orange is the New Black or House of Cards are still technically TV since stations can and do buy up syndication rights to broadcast them.  But then there's things on this list like Angry Video Game Nerd which isn't a television show at all. 
Photo of Daniel Chung

Daniel Chung

  • 19 Posts
  • 5 Reply Likes
While you have a point, I think we've passed the point of no return on being able to draw a line in the sand between the two. This grey area will only become more messy in the coming years as more and more people watch stuff online and as the industry changes. I say, if a web series is popular and highly rated enough to make the list, then more power to them.
Photo of Eduard Borisov

Eduard Borisov

  • 1 Post
  • 0 Reply Likes

The list is ok, but the bulgarian series Под Прикритие Pod Prikritie are missing:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1909015/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

It has very high rating from over 22 000 users and should be in top 50.

Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
The list only uses rating from "regular" users. To combat ballot stuffing, they do not reveal what makes one a regular user.
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
Ramuel,

How do you know what "regular" users voted?
Photo of bluesmanSF

bluesmanSF, Champion

  • 10815 Posts
  • 6434 Reply Likes
Since the site doesn't say, on purpose, how can you say:

one account with above 100 titles  is called regular voter

re:
And to be a Top1000 voters must have 1.000+ titlles . Now depends on Top1000 voters , now it requires more then 1000 titles
This is also not true. The top 1,000 is the top 1,000. There are probably hundreds of thousands with over 1,000 ratings. They cannot all be in the top 1,000. I have thousands but am not a top 1,000 voter.

And, of course, top 1,000 also has nothing to do with the top 250 lists and has nothing to do with this discussion.

You also don't know if something was "banned from the list" which makes no sense anyway, so maybe you should stop posting things as fact when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies.