IMDB: Which State is it Incorporated In?

  • 1
  • Question
  • Updated 2 years ago
  • Answered
  • (Edited)
I have been patient with a request to have creative material that I (and only I) own removed from this site. I am weary of having to state that I and only I own this material, that no film was made that could allow IMDB legally to include it on its site (and no film ever will be made), and that this "community board" has patronized me by saying its staff is "working on [the issue]." IMDB has no right to continue to attribute for even a single day ownership, partnership, affiliation of any sort to parties between whom no partnership or affiliation exists or ever existed. This is piracy.

I will end my account when the theft IMDB has not addressed is addressed. I'd appreciate knowing which state's intellectual property laws IMDB is bound to respect.

Thank you.
Photo of hilary

hilary

  • 32 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes

Posted 2 years ago

  • 1
Photo of gromit82

gromit82, Champion

  • 7029 Posts
  • 8407 Reply Likes
Hilary: If you need to report copyright infringement to IMDb, the contact information for the legal department can be found at https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution-information/how-do-i-report-copyrighted-mate...#.
Photo of hilary

hilary

  • 32 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes
As I am not a lawyer, I do not know if uploading my name and material to IMDB as a film "in development" constitutes copyright infringement. I know 1) no film is or ever will be in development; 2) pursuant to my IMDB request to respect my request for removal, the [sic] producer sent me a boiler-plate agreement form which I refused to sign; 3) the "producer's" citizenship status is not U.S.; and 4) every day that goes by with IMDB not removing my name and work, the inference that IMDB thereby colludes with intellectual property theft is increasingly valid.

At the end of the year and again this week, I have requested (by email) this [sic] production company remove my name and material. Interestingly, no IMDB "investigation" has included me.

Thank you for your response.
Photo of Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin)

Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion

  • 2451 Posts
  • 3076 Reply Likes
Hello, Hilary. 

What do you mean by "1) no film is or ever will be in development"? 

Adressing other features, if you were not associated with production and were not credited on it and you can prove that you can delete your credit. The problem is that if you are credited on it, then it will be reinstated by people who will see your name in the end credits an rightfully so.  

As for the geographical location of IMDb I believe it is located in United Kingdom, so not in the Unites States whatsoever.  
(Edited)
Photo of hilary

hilary

  • 32 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes
Thank you. The previous responder let me learn for the first time that Amazon owns IMDB and that it is located for legal purposes in Seattle, Washington.

I'm afraid I'm having difficulty understanding what you mean by "if you were not associated with production and were not credited on it and you can prove that you can delete your credit." I think this is merely a typo. Did you mean to say, "If you were not associated with production and were credited on it and you can prove that you can delete your credit?" This is precisely what happened.

A producer whom I had never met or entered into an agreement with got hold of my material from a third party (not an agent). Sometime last summer, I became aware, just by looking up IMDB credits of the third party (who is an IMDB Pro member, if it counts), that this producer even existed. When I went to this producer's page to see what else was included within his/her credits, what do I find but my name, a thumbnail of my work, and a logline I did not create--for my work. My work is 1) registered with the WGA; 2) registered with the U.S. Copyright Office; and 3) the recipient of an arts fellowship by my state government.

Approximately two-and-a-half weeks have passed, with various IMDB (or Get Satisfaction) representatives claiming some vague "staff" is "working on it." NO ONE HAS CONTACTED ME. No one.

The IMDB page on who is allowed to upload credits states (among other issues germane to my case) that people who create IMDB pages for "dubious" ventures--no financial backing, nothing on the horizon remotely resembling financial backing, etc.--are not welcome. This assumes that those individuals associated with such "dubious" claims have ACTIVELY SOUGHT AND DESIRE a presence on IMDB.

I do not. I did not. I will not. I don't know what else to say. I added that the [sic] producer is a foreign national not because I harbor an animus against foreign nationals who don't co-opt U.S. citizens' work or acquire it with their consent. I harbor an animus, grounded in U.S. copyright law, against anyone who co-opts work without first securing the permission of its creator.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.
(Edited)
Photo of Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin)

Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion

  • 2451 Posts
  • 3076 Reply Likes
Yes, it was a typing error on my part indeed, sorry. 

If there is information on IMDb about your work which is not factual, for example a title which is said to be in production while it is an unproduced script, I believe that could be deleted if you will adress the issue specifically as a separate problem. 

Despite having a lot of employees IMDb has a lot of issues to address, which sometimes might be challenging.  
Photo of hilary

hilary

  • 32 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes
I have addressed the issue. If the time spent by employees in responding here and telling me that they were "working on it" had been spent instead on hitting a Delete key, I wouldn't be up in the small hours of January 14 posting.

Your response was kind. Again, thanks!
(Edited)
Photo of hilary

hilary

  • 32 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Does IMDB Require that the Washington State Attorney General Be Cc'd?.

Does IMDB require that the Washington State Attorney General be CC'd in addition to the Copyright Office about legal as well as moral rights deprived someone whose material was uploaded without consent to this database? Thank you.
(Edited)
Photo of The Idiot Savant

The Idiot Savant

  • 17 Posts
  • 21 Reply Likes
Hi Hilary, as others have said, IMDb is attached to Amazon.com as a subsidiary, private company.  However, Amazon is incorporated in Delaware. 

For removal of copyrighted material, your best route is to send a DMCA Take Down Notice by fax (for quickest response) or courier to Amazon's legal dept in Washington.  Keep in mind that the DMCA is an American law, which bodes well for your request, providing the IMDb computer servers are on American soil (which in this case is clearly true).  There's really no need to CC the Attorney General.  Simply submitting a DMCA notice will do the trick (usually within 24-48 hours).

IMDb's Help section gives detailed information on what you can do.  In my experience with similar issues, I have found that patience and understanding is the best route to go when dealing with large companies.  There's a lot of red tape that sometimes front-line employees can't cut through (ie, there's a chain of command and quite often those who respond to client issues are at the bottom of said chain). Try this link to IMDb's Help Center for Copyright Issues:

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution-information/how-do-i-report-copyrighted-material/GQGQXYTN68GCEGS2?ref_=helpsrall#

Also, before IMDb adds a title to their database there must be an outside reference to the title:

"For a work to be eligible for inclusion in the database it must be of general public interest and should be available to the public or have been available in the past." - IMDb

In other words, somewhere out there in internet land your material is being seen/sold elsewhere on other websites, and that was a reference point for IMDb / the producer / some random guy to add a title to IMDb's database.  As a producer myself (this is my nom de plume), I can advise that you can't get a title added to IMDb's database until you're able to prove its public release - like a known film festival or a DVD sale on Amazon, for example.

More information on how to add titles and names can be found here:

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/adding-a-new-title/GNXTSSVTJTFCRZGN?ref_=helpsrall#eligibility 

It may behoove you to send a DMCA notice to the source's ISP as well, and have your material removed from that producer's (the original offender) webpage.  That's what I would do.  I've sent hundreds of DMCA notices out and I've only ever had one complication.  That required my retaining a lawyer in the target's city and have my counsel send a letter right to the target's home.  Nothing makes people act quicker than a legal letter being sent to their home.  No one is untouchable.

Good luck with everything.
Photo of hilary

hilary

  • 32 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes
Sincere thanks. The mental distress of this piracy (by the alleged producer) has worsened a physical condition. In the absence of help from IMDB, I can't thank you enough. Three times a charm: *thank you.* I will contact appropriate parties beginning today.

As my knowledge of tangible telecommunications is severely lacking, I don't understand what you meant by the conscientious suggestion to contact the "server" of the person doing the pirating. I would assume IMDB's servers, particularly if owned by Mr. Bezos, would be one-and-the-same with IMDB. This "producer" does have outside sites which also advertise my work, but to my knowledge, these are password-protected--frankly a perfect storm type of set-up for naive artists overly invested in the entertainment industry. This is why IMDB's lack of respect for this problem is so dangerous: for a flim-flam "producer" to have the right to upload/steal material to IMDB, while simultaneously building password-protected sites that make all sorts of claims that are untrue, might ever so easily mislead a naive person to perceive the producer as legitimate.

I never cease to be appalled by Amazon.

I like to be able to sleep at night, something that apparently doesn't require from everyone a clean conscience.
Photo of The Idiot Savant

The Idiot Savant

  • 17 Posts
  • 21 Reply Likes
It sounds like you're pretty stressed from this, I would be too if someone was stealing my property!  As artists we're a different breed of character others find difficult to understand and relate to.  But do know there's a whole community of people here to support you!
Photo of hilary

hilary

  • 32 Posts
  • 10 Reply Likes
Thank you.