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Ever since the search engine was updated I always get the titles in the search results and randomly in some title pages in Portuguese (I live in a portuguese speaking country), even if I'm logged in and change the settings in the site preferences to "Title display country: United States" and "Title display language: English". Other people from other countries reported this problem on the "IMDb Information" board and got no answer. I tried changing the "Title display country" to any other country, and the results still show the titles in Portuguese anyway. I'm used (like most film buffs) to know movies by their english titles, so the fact that now I can't change the language the titles are displayed to any other than the country I live in makes the site very frustrating to use.
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I have the same problem. Obviously, IMDb staff have changed again their site behavior. In my account's site preferences I selected "Title display country: United States" and "Title display language: English". It had been working for the past months, but lately it doesn't work anymore. Now the titles are being displayed in the country's language of the originating IP. This is very annoying. I want the titles getting displayed according to my site preferences instead of getting imposed a title based on the originatin IP. Did the IMDb staff ever think about people living abroad? Or that some people use a VPN, thus not having an IP of their home country?

Titles should always default to the international English title anway when being on the international site, IMDb.com (if not logged in and no site preferences are being applied). If I want German titles, I go to IMDb.de, if I want Spanish titles I go to IMDb.es, etc.

Why does IMDb think they can patronize their users?
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> Why does IMDb think they can patronize their users?

I was wondering the same thing... If I want titles in portuguese, I go to imdb.com.br ... But I go to imdb.com because I want the United States titles (as in my configurations)... People on IMDB don't agree with this, and so our IP takes precedence even over our personal configurations ... Go figure. :-(

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Just to clarify and make sure we're on the same page -- are you referring to the information displayed at the top of a page or in search results, or both?

When looking at title pages, your title display preferences should affect the title shown at the top of a page. For example if you go to

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073582/

and your title display country preferences are to 'Original,' the tile at the top of the page should be:



But if you change the country to "France" you should see this:



And you change it to 'United States', the title will be displayed as:



Likewise, search results are displayed differently based on your title display preferences. Searching for 'Deep Red' with your country set to United States:



Setting your country to "France":



And setting your display default to 'Original':



If you are getting different results/behavior, can you please give some examples (e.g. which titles did you look up, or searched for, what did you select in your title display preferences, and where are you located) so we can try to reproduce the problem? In some cases the issue might be with the data rather than with the search/display logic (i.e. maybe we have an incorrect or missing alternate title for a film/country).
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No problem, I’ll explain.

I’m referring to both the information displayed at the top of a page and the information displayed in the search results. The problem seems to affect random titles; I’d say about 25% of the titles I tried searching.

I’m from Portugal but I don’t want to see the titles in Portuguese, so I always had my country set to United States in the title display country preferences. It worked fine before, but now it malfunctions.

Examples:

Right now I have my preferences set as “Title display country: United States” and “Title display language: English”. And I will keep it that way for all the following experiences.

I search for “And Now for Something Completely Different” and I get this:



As you can see the title shows up in Portuguese in the search results. And if I open the title page I get this:



Title in Portuguese, with country preferences set as “United States”.

Another weird thing happens when I try to see the movie references of Django Unchained. If you take a look at the list below, some of the titles have their English titles, others their Portuguese title:





As you can see films like Seven Samurai and Gone With the Wind have their English title, as they are supposed to, others like Son of a Gunfighter and A Clockwork Orange show up as “O Filho do Pistoleiro” and “Laranja Mecânica”, which are, respectively, their Portuguese titles.

If I open the title page for Seven Samurai I’ll get the English title with the original title under it, as I specified in the account settings:



But when I open the title page for A Clockwork Orange, I’ll get the Portuguese title:



All this started happening right after the search engine upgrade, and even if I change the "Title display country" to any other option, I always get some of the titles in Portuguese.

That's it. Let me know if I could be helpful in any other way.
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By the way, I also tried it with the movie you used to exemplify - Deep Red. It also malfunctions with the country preferences set to "United States":



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How do I view titles on imdb in their original language?

When I use akas in the url, it dosnt work anymore? For example:
http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0289043/
Shows me "28 dagar senare" (swedish).

As I've understood it, it's possible by loging in, but I do not wish to do that at my current location.

Best Regards. John

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View imdb titles in their original language.
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I'm pretty sure that most of the swedes would like to have the titles in english instead of swedish.
For me imdb is useless if I can't see the titles in english even if I speak swedish fluently.
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I'm in Brazil and an annoying bug in IMDB Search feature has got me crazy ... Whenever I do a search for a title on the IMDB website, the first item returned (and only the first item) is wrongly in Portuguese language, instead of bringing the original title in English as I configured. The IMDB Search engine ignores my personal preferences, where I configured to use only the English language. It's annoying... Can you guys (on IMDB) fix this?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
BUG in Search Engine.
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Same here :(
In the settings, I put everything in English, but I get the results in French :(

But it's the same thing with the Android app. It'll only give me the titles in French, which is completly useless to me.

As a result I don't use the app, but if even on the site the titles are now in French, I'll have to go somewhere else :(

If I go on imdb.com it's because I want the titles in English. If I wanted the French titles I would go on imdb.fr !!!!
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Any development on this, staff?
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I find this bug extremely frustrating, too.

I am in Germany, but I have set Title display country to 'United States' and Title display language to 'English'. Unfortunately, this setting is only partially honored. For instance, if I search for "Harry Potter", a third of the results are properly shown with the original title and the rest of the titles are in German.

Those movies that are incorrectly listed with the German title in the search results, also incorrectly show the German title on the individual movie page.

Please fix this bug soon!
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I have just registered just to post here

PLEASE fix this mess!!!!

i visit 50 times a day imdb site and i need this fix
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I'm in Germany, but i want English titles, IMDB should just display the language according to the users' own settings, as simple as that, and this should be very easy to fix, how come it is still hasn't been fixed by now???
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This is so annoying! I've searched through these forums now, gone through a bunch of threads and still can't find an answer from anyone about this problem! Its quite a big problem too, I can't use Imdb when it shows titles in Polish, which I don't even speak... FIX THIS!
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Same problem here. I have my settings on England and English, but got Historien om Pi when i searched for Life of Pi. This is so annoying!!! Will they ever fix this???
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Another poor soul. I live in Poland and all of the sudden all titles started to display in Polish (with sub in English). I have set Title display country to "Original" and Title display language to English. This behaviour manifests on search as well as movie page. Interestingly enough - if I log out I get correct English titles (I have English as preferred language in browsers). Please fix this as this renders IMDB kinda useless :|
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Same problem and getting really annoyed by it. I live in Italy and when I look up Die Hard I want it to say Die Hard not "Trappola di Cristallo" (which actually means crystal trap, not sure how that's a good translation, but whatever). I have pretty much stopped using imdb because of this problem.
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Just to clarify: what you see is not supposed to be a translation, but the title that was actually user for the film when it was released in your country. The translation might not be literal and the title may sound silly in some case, but that's how the film was known in that country.

And yes, 'Die Hard' was originally released in italy under the title 'Trappola di cristallo' back in 1989 (see for example: http://mr.comingsoon.it/imgdb/locandi... ).
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"Die Hard not "Trappola di Cristallo""

Same problem in Polish - we have "Szklana pułapka" (a trap made of glass, I guess it's the aftermath of the first instalment which doesn't just quite fit with the rest of the series) and as you can see - 'creative translators' can ruin good movie experience!
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Nothing is "translated." The titles should be as released, from the original to any AKA's. No one at IMDb translates them into something they are not. If you don't like the title, you'd need to contact the film makers involved.
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It's been a month since someone from staff addressed this issue. I don't see this problem in the "problems being worked on" section, even though it is the most complained about problem among IMDb users here on the Getsatisfaction boards and in the (now extinct) help board. Any reason why the staff isn't looking into it/giving feedback to users? Wasn't the shift to these boards supposed to bring the staff closer to the users needs? I don't want to sound too entitled, but knowing that IMDb is a business that makes money off its users, shouldn't that business at least show some courtesy to its users? Especially when this problem affects ALL foreign users, which I imagine represent an important share of IMDb's traffic...
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We are aware of the problem and it is being worked on, but unfortunately I'm not able to provide an estimate for when it will be addressed. As soon as I have more information, I will provide an update.

Thank you all for your patience.
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Thank you. It's all I wanted to know. Much appreciated.
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At least some news.
Great to know you're working on the problem :)

I hope you'll fix the Android app as well.
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man, how hard can it be??? why would it take so long???? just stop pretend you are smart or so by cutting all the links you are trying to establish between the content you provide and the IP that we have, obviously you are basing what language it displays according to what countries we are in by looking into our IPs
just remove this and make sure the language displayed is the one we chose, it is that simple!!!
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The system is already designed to display titles based on the selection entered by the user in his/her account settings, and should default to the language of the country of the user (based on the IP address) only if the user is not logged in or has not selected a different language choice. The reason why this doesn't happen in some cases is hard to pinpoint, and only affect some users/titles which is why it's not an easy fix.

To anyone who is still experiencing this problem: please change your title language display preference to 'Original' (not 'English') in your user setting and let us know if you are still seeing titles of US films in your local language regardless of this setting. If so, please give us some examples of titles that are affected so we can try to reproduce the problem.
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Yeah, it makes sense that the fact that it only affects some titles makes it harder to correct.

There is no "Original" in my Title display language menu, only in the Title display country. Did you mean that?
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Ok I tried "original" in the settings for the title display and it's no good :(

If it's an American or an English movie (though American and English titles differ sometimes), it could be OK but it won't work with "foreign" movies.

For instance, for the movie "The girl who leapt through time" if I leave the settings to "United States" I get "La traversée du temps" (I'm French) and if I put "original" I get "Toki o kakeru shôjo" :(

Weird thing is for "Downfall" (German movie). I don't get the French title (La chute) and it's properly displayed in English when the title language display preference is set to "United States". If I choose "original" I will get "Der Untergang" which is not useful at all for me :p

Does the problem come from the settings, because why is there a setting for "Title display country" and another one for "Title display language" (which doesn't seem to be of any use)?
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Actually setting it to original does the trick for me, haven't tried foreign films though

@Neo, according to what you describe, the site is displaying what it is told to as "The girl who leapt through time" is a Japanese moview and "the Downfall" is a German movie

to me, the only problem now is that the title display language doesn't really determine the language
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I had Original before, set it to English the other day (but the issue persisted). I've just checked the same "The girl who leapt through time" and with the English setting in the Search and Movie page it was displayed "O dziewczynie skaczacej przez czas (2006) Toki o kakeru shôjo (original title)". I've updated setting to Original and now:
- http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=The+...:
Toki o kakeru shôjo (2006)
aka "The Girl Who Leapt Through Time"

- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808506/?...
Toki o kakeru shôjo (2006)

(i.e. on the movie page only original title is shown, still - better than having Polish titles =,=)
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Ok just an update, the problem is partially fixed for me. I used to have the "Title display country" set to "United Kingdom" but now that I set it to "United States" the English titles are displayed in English, yippie!!!

But there is still a problem with the "foreign" movies, the titles are still displayed in French for me for those movies :(

@Francis Li
For me the "Title display language" setting doesn't do anything. I tried to change it for another language but nothing happened :-O
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The 'title display language' is intended primarily for cases where there is more than one possible title/language in the same country -- a typical example would be Canada, where films are released with English-language titles and french-language titles depending on the region.

One thing worth keeping in mind is that if you select a specific country but we don't have a release title for that country, you might get unexpected results. Selecting 'United Kingdom' will not necessarily always display English-language titles, if we don't have a specific UK release title for a film. This be a bit counter-intuitive, but there are probably cases where we have a US release title for a film but not a UK release, even though the film might have been released under the same title in both countries.

If you want to see English-language titles most of the time (including for non-English language titles), your best bet is to set the title display country to the United States.
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Giancarlo Cairella, at least you've read all the posts on this topic, before commenting ? We're talking about a *bug* in IMDB.COM software that starts after the search engine was updated, and not a problem in our (the users) configuration.

For example, I am in Brazil. In my account's site preferences I selected "Title display country: UNITED STATES" and "Title display language: ENGLISH". Still, whenever I do a search for an american movie title, always typing the original English title (of an American film!!!), sometimes IMDB returns the located title in Portuguese (from Brazil) in response to my research. And it's AN AMERICAN MOVIE for Christ's sake!!!! This is an annoying bug!

At least you guys admit that IMDB.COM has an bug and is not able to honor the user's configuration. You already took the absurd decision to put the movie titles in the language of the IP from where people access, even when they choose to type "IMDB.COM" (and not IMDB.COM.BR, IMDB.COM.AU, etc.). The least you can do is honor the user's configuration for language and country.

Sorry for my bad English.

Rubens,
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Rubens:

I didn't say that this was a problem in the user configuration -- I was trying to explain why it happens and how you can work around it (by setting Title Display Country to "Original").

As for the behavior you describe, I can't be specific without knowing which title you looked up but if you have selected US/English and you still get a title in Portuguese, chances are that it's a data problem rather than a software problem, i.e. we don't have a title marked as 'US/English' for that particular title (even if it's an american movie!).

You have to understand that when you select a particular country/setting, you are asking the site to display only titles matching that country/language combination. There could be cases where, due to lack of data or incorrect data, we don't actually have a title matching those conditions so the display falls back on the localized version.

We are working on ways to improve fall back logic for these conditions (e.g. if we don't have a US english title but there is a UK english title we display that before reverting to the local language) so that this occurs less frequently. But the other /better way to fix the problem is to improve the quality of the data, e.g. if you notice an incorrect title for your country, please submit a correction; if we don't have a title/language combination, add one etc.

If you have specific examples of titles that exhibit an incorrect behavior that is not caused by underlying data issues, we would love to hear about them.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060196/

Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo. (1966)

i have Title display country original and Title display language English

where is english there?

and now with

title display country united states and Title display language English

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo. (original title)

why does it show original title?

and then with these settings i go to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089847/

i have title display country united states and Title display language English

and

El protector (1985)
The Protector (original title)

COME ON, fix that
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You see above that they are trying to locate the problem (what they need to do before fixing it) right?

Yelling doesn't make it happen faster.
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i was not yelling, i was writing
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Ah, caps lock stuck. Got it.
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The behavior you describe is correct. When you set the Title Display Country to 'original, the language selection has no effect because the title will always be displayed as the original title (defined as the title used for release in the original country of production, which is almost always in the primary language of that country). So if you have 'original' set as the main preferences, you'll get English titles for films made in the USA, French titles for films produced in France, Italian titles for films made in Italy etc.

When you choose 'USA' as the country, you get the title used for release in the USA and, since the film is not a USA production, you also get the original title.

Re: The Protector, as explanied elsewhere in this thread, your preferences are set to display the title that has USA associated as the country of release. Since the film doesn't actually have an title/country combination matching USA (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089847/r...) you get the localized title by default, followed by the 'original' title.

In order to see 'The Protector' displayed as the main title with your preference setting someone needs to add that title as a valid USA title (which I've just submitted, so within a few days the display will change accordingly).
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It seems that the problem was fixed (at least for me/Portugal) for the two titles I mentioned previously: A Clockwork Orange & And Now for Something Completely Different.

They now show up correctly with the title country set to United States:





But the problem persists with other titles:











etc...

Does this mean that you couldn’t find the criteria for the bug and fixed it manually for these two titles because of my post? Will the only solution for this problem be fixing title-by-title? Because if so, I don’t mind helping out by creating a list of titles that malfunction (in my country...I don’t know if they are the same as other countries), if you let me know how/where I can send it to. It will probably only help solve a small percentage of titles, since I can only provide the titles I happen to stumble upon while visiting IMDb, but it’s a start...

At least until you find the criteria. And there should be one, because it seems unlikely that this would start happening for absolutely no reason to completely random titles.
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Yes, the first two titles now have a specific USA title so when you set your country to 'United States' you get the title associated with that country
The other films don't have a specific USA title but they have a Portuguese one, so that's what's being displayed.

The solution is to either fix the data (supply the USA title for films that don't have one) or to change your title display preferences to 'Original' (which will show the English-language title for most american films).
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Thanks! I see, so all the (non-Portuguese) titles that show up in Portuguese are missing their USA title in the AKAs. Wonder what happened to them/changed in the system, since they used to work correctly.

I have the title set to original, now. It’s the best temporary solution, but it makes the director/actor pages of foreign people impractical, since the titles will show up in their original language. For example, if I got to Yasujirô Ozu’s page I’ll get his directed films with the original Japanese titles, like this:

Sanma no aji
Kohayaawa-ke no aki
Akibiyori
Ukikusa
Ohayô
Higanbana
Tôkyô boshoku
etc...

I know his films by English title, but since I don’t know Japanese this listing means nothing to me. So I rather just start submitting the USA title for the ones missing it, so that I can go back to using the "title display country: USA" configuration as soon as possible.

Just one last question then: while submitting the USA titles for those titles, so that they show up correctly, what "attribute" should I choose in the submission area? "Imdb display title", right? Sorry for being a noob...I never had to submit data before.
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That's correct. "IMDb display title" is the best choice, unless another attribute is needed depending on the data being submitted (e.g. if you are submitting an alternate title that was only used as a working title or a promotional title rather than the main on-screen title, then you'd choose those as the attributes).
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Got it. Thank you.
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I thought that things were fixed for English titles but they're not :(

I was looking for new movies to watch and I found this:



As Rubens already mentionned it's really stupid to put the titles according to the IP.
If I want French titles I will go on imdb.fr or allocine.fr !!!

IF I GO ON imdb.com IT'S BECAUSE I WANT THE TITLES IN ENGLISH !!!!

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