Ineligble credits for a Blake Jones

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There are ineligible credits that need to be deleted. All of the editorial department credits for this Blake Jones

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6258563/reference

are ineignle and none appear on the original work (despite the claim that they are actually credited). By his own admission, according to his biography, he has been in the business for only 27 years. This rules out all work on titles made before 1990. All of his 'credits' are for home video work he did in one region. These are not even eligible. I would delete them myself but there are so many that it would take so long so I am asking a staffer to do a clean sweep.
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and all the pre-2004 credits for this guy

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3327824/reference

and probaly all that belong to this guy who has made up his own restoration version to get his work on the video of Perry Mason to stay up (note: only he has a credit any '2014' version).

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1721459/reference?ref_=nm_mv_close

and this guy (complete with vanity pic) who is giving himself credits on films made before he was born and also thinks his work on a trailer makes him eligibel for a credit for the film it advertises

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1475979/reference?ref_=nm_mv_close


and another colorist giving himslef video credits (that do not exist) for 1960s feature films he had nothing to do with.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339061/reference

and another

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1505740/reference
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Hi James,

Thanks for pointing this out. I have cut a ticket for the appropriate data manager who will look into this. We will get back to you once this has been completed.
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Hi James,

Thanks again for bringing these to our attention.

A large clear up was done of all ineligible credits for remastered / home video credits across all of the names, as well as a number of unverifiable credits being removed. A couple of these names (Donald Freeman and D.C Cardinali) seemed to have mostly verifiable filmographies, however if you determine that the remaining credits are incorrect, please provide with further information and any evidence as necessary and we can reopen our investigation.

If you have any other specific credits you still have concerns about, please let us know and we can look into these further.

Thanks
Meredith
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There are lots. For Rick James http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339061, probably everything as he worked for a home video company as a 'colorist'. Colorists work in video. A film would not have a 'coloriist' if it was shot film. It would have a 'color timer'. Case in point, No Escape (1994). You can see from the following link that he has not got a credit at all and that only the 'color timer' credit is valid. That belongs to someone else.

https://youtu.be/PwCuFYnpcD4?t=1h42m23s

You can se that he does not have a credit for The Blood of Fu Manchu.

https://free-classic-movies.com/movies-06/06-1968-08-23-The-Blood-of-Fu-Manchu/index.php

He does have one verified credit thoguh (I can see he was credited for Just Desserts (2004)). All the film credits as telecine colorist are ineligible.

D.C Cardinali may have some credits but surely you can see that a 'colorist: remastered hd version (new version)' credit for a 1979 theatrcially released film would never be eligible. Also, a person who has credits from 2017 would not have worked on a 1920 feature film production. This guy

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1505740

This guy wins the award for most ambitious self-submission (he has clearl;y submitted these credits himself, all of them, why else would they be so similar). That award is for the 'hd colorist: trailer only' credit he gives himself for The Blood Beast Terror (1968).

Take Donald Freeman.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1721459

Again we have lots of alleged credits as a colorist on features shot in fil;m (these credits do not exist e.g. Lara Croft: Tomb Raider). Again, he has uploaded these credits himself (note that the only '2015 Rematser' credit on the TV show credits are for him, these are just ineligible home video works). Evreything in the last century needs to be deleted.

And look at Jom Wickes with 40 out of his 61 credits pre-dating his 16th birthday, some pre-dating his birth. Also includes a 2009 'trailer colorist' 'credit'.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1475979

All pre-2012 credits need to go.

Another fantasist, Steve Johnson.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3327824

Everything from at least pre-2007 has to go. I checked one random title (Fierce Creatures) and found he is not credited at all. That is easy though as it was shot on film and a colorist works on video. The film has a legtimiate 'colour grader' credit. Note the spelling of colour (Brit film you see).

The we have Blake Jones who has uploaded more photos of himself than he has of actual credits.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6258563

but that was always going to be the case as his actual number of credits on the films he has lsited in zero. I thought he had a chance with the last one, Karma Shadub (2013) but no.

http://www.karmashadub.com/de/credits
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This still has not been sorted. Blake Jones only has two possible eligible credits, the Miscellaneous Crew credit as a DI colorist on Shadow (2009) and the colorist credit for Karma Sahdub (2013). The rest are for video versions of titles that pre-date his career and need deleting.
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Hey there,

Thanks for getting back in touch about this, I've passed the comments onto an editor to continue looking into this for you.

Joel
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And here is another one adding "DVD" and "bluray (sic) authoring" credits

www.imdb.com/name/nm1190282
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Hi James,

Thanks for your response.

We have removed all of the ineligible credits from the following page

  Justin McConnell
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1190282/

We have also removed all unverifiable credited roles (aside from the ones specified in your previous post) for:

  Blake Jones
   http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6258563/

However, we will retain his (uncredited) listings as we believe these to be factual - if you're able to provide any information otherwise, our editors will happily review this for you.

Thanks for your support!

Joel
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Hi Joe, the (uncredited) listing for Blake Jones for the "home video version" of the 1954 film has to go, surely? By his own admission, he only began his work 27 years ago as a colorist so all the credits before 1991 need to go as they are all ineligible (he did not work on the origonal version). Also, the Karma Shadud credit needs to go as he was not inovlved in the originla production.

http://www.karmashadub.com/de/credits

Only one credit, Shadow (2009), might be legit.

Mr Donald Freeman still has a load of listings that need to go, al of those before 200 for a start  (and probably the rest). He wokrs on the videpo version of tehse ttiles therefore his credits are ineligible.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1721459/

Steve Johnson may have some qulaifying listings now but all those before 2007 do not qualify and need to go.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3327824/
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Hi Joel, the (uncredited) listing for Blake Jones for the "home video version" of the 1954 film has to go, surely? By his own admission, he only began his work 27 years ago as a colorist so all the credits before 1991 need to go as they are all ineligible (he did not work on the origonal version). Also, the Karma Shadud credit needs to go as he was not inovlved in the originla production.

http://www.karmashadub.com/de/credits

Only one credit, Shadow (2009), might be legit.

Mr Donald Freeman still has a load of listings that need to go, all of those before 2000 for a start  (and probably the rest). He works on the video version of these titles therefore his credits are ineligible.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1721459/

Steve Johnson may have some qualifying listings now but all those before 2007 do not qualify and need to go.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3327824/
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Hi JamesMMM,

I've now removed credits based on your comments here. If you wish to amend any further credits please do so via the edit page feature to submit these directly to our data editors.

Regards,
Will
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Hello, I found this thread when I was about to create one about the same problem.

I was updating the credits for Wayne's World (1992)

There is a Bryan McMahan listed on IMDb with the credit "colorist: mastering."

However, this credit does not exist on the film.
The only credit is for Dave Bryden as "color timer"



When I went to Bryan McMahan's page, I noticed a proliferation of similar "colorist: mastering" credits that do not make sense, including films dating back to the 1950's.  This is just a small sample:



I recognize common threads in most of those films:

1) They are films Paramount Pictures released on DVD/Blu-Ray

OR

2) They are films directed by William Friedkin

I did some research and confirmed that Bryan McMahan was responsible for DVD mastering of most of those films instead of working on them during the original production:

http://www.studiodaily.com/2007/07/colorist-bryan-mcmahan-returns-to-post-logic/

Now, I believe Bryan McMahan has legitimate credits that should remain on his page, but he also has many credits that do not meet IMDb's eligibility criteria since, as this thread confirms, credits for subsequent mastering for home video that are not part of the on-screen credits should not be listed, even as "uncredited" credits.
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Hi Vincent-P,

I've removed any credits predating 1983 and the Wayne's World credit now, please use the edit page feature to submit any further edits directly to our data editors.

Regards,
Will
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I have found another person with similar ineligible credits.

Erik Karsen Puhmhttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm3495446/

Tonight I was updating the credits for The Decline of Western Civilization and there was a Miscellaneous Crew credit listed on IMDb for Erik Karsen Puhm for "commentary" that did not match any on-screen credit on the film.

I looked at his profile and discovered he has multiple ineligible credits related to recording DVD/Blu-Ray commentary tracks.  This is not a position that is ever credited on film/TV credits and should not be listed on IMDb.  All credits listed on his profile in the "Sound Department" or "Miscellaneous Crew" sections with the word "commentary" in them should be deleted.
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It also appears he has additional ineligible credits related to re-dubbing films/TV into foreign languages.
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Hi Vincent. I think a lot more of Bryan's creits need to be removed but I could see that one of them, Killer Joe, was real at least.
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I found another fantasist adding credits to the IMDb that do not belong here. I present Michael Healy.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2917964/

The giveaway clue is that fcat that he has created a credit title of his own '2017 HDR Remaster" that reappears with a captial R. It would be unliley that these were feated by two different peole. He was not credited on Sky Captain...(2005) or Scary Movie (2000) or Fear and Loathing... (1998). It wouls be easier for IMDb staff to delete all the data submitted by that person than for me to go through all the other ttiles to delete the 'credits' I doubt he has a single eligible credit.

We have another person who wants us to beleive he was credited on some big films of the last few decades. I present... Alex Nikolic

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3456386/

Somehow I do not think he had a credit that read "media producer: Yugoslavia" on anything.
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