JonTron Show episode order

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There's barely any official information of how episodes are grouped by seasons in the JonTron Show. The contributors to IMDb has therefore taken the initiative and have grouped the seasons based on year. But across all episodes, there is one where JonTron (Jon Jafari) himself tells you which episode is first in one of the seasons, which does not match what is added to IMDb.

In the episode titled "Barbie Games" (S06E01 on IMDb, watch on YouTube), at 16:14 he says "Thank you so much for watching the beginning of season 3 of JonTron". This would mark Barbie Games as the first episode of season 3, not 6.

The visual changes in the new season is that the "JonTron" title screen disappears with an "old TV effect" before going to the episode title, compared to the season before where it just faded to black before the episode title.


I have tried contacting the JonTron Show by email, asking about where the other seasons officially starts. But I haven't received any answer back, and it's been moths. I've messaged twice. – So just like the previous contributors has taken their own initiative, we could do it now again, but using this new information.


Comparing the intros across the episodes before; the silhouette does not feature any black outline until the episode titled "Hercules Games" (S04E02 on IMDb, watch on YouTube), intro starts at 1:07. From hereon, the silhouette has a black pixelated outline. – He never states which episode is the start of season 2. But this is the best we can do.

Furthermore, future season can also be derived from the changes in the intro. The next intro is not featured until the episode titled "Flex Tape II: The Flexening" (S09E01 on IMDb, watch on YouTube), intro starts at 7:19. It features a completely new intro, which has still been used to this day (last episode released: "Regis Philbin's Epic Workout", S10E07 on IMDb, watch on YouTube, intro starts at 0:22)


This would make the seasons:
1: "Daikatana" – "Space Ace!" .. 2010-08-31 – 2013-01-29 (21⁄2 years)
2: "Hercules Games" – "The Zoo Race" .. 2013-09-24 – 2014-12-13 (11⁄4 years)
3: "Barbie Games" – "VR Troopers" .. 2015-02-25 – 2017-12-23  (23⁄4 years)
4: "Flex Tape II: The Flexening" – .. 2018-12-02 – .. (1 year and counting ..)


Some episodes are featured in the episode list of JonTron Show, when they are also featured on the show JonTron's StarCade (tt5143438). Episodes S06E02,E03,E05–E09,E13–14 are therefore listed twice on IMDb, and should preferably be removed from JonTron Show. They are featured on the JonTron Show YouTube channel, but does not carry that name, and instead has "JonTron's StarCade" on the title screen. – JonTron's StarCade is also a show that has ended, and should be marked so on IMDb. The 9th StarCade episode is titled "(Finale)".


Finally, an episode is missing from IMDb; it has been removed from the official JonTron Show YouTube channel. But as other removed videos are still featured on IMDb, this one should probably also be added:
- "Goldeneye 007 Wii Review?", released between "Sonic R Is the Best Game Eva" and "Gaming in Public" .. exact date unknown
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Hi,

If there are no defined seasons then really all episodes of the show should be entered as season 1 with the corresponding episode number, like a soap opera listing. Please see this guide for more details on how to add a missing episode to a series.

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Will
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Will, I believe Liggliluff is trying to say that sometimes you can determine the season order by watching the episodes and/or checking the TV listings (and such). Some soap operas, TV news etc are probably a different matter, but often there’s a break (3-6 months, maybe) between seasons - also with many talk shows.
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@Will, plenty of shows on IMDb, at least YouTube series, have imaginary seasons based on year, even if there's no official ones declared by the creator:
Equals Three (tt1561773)
Best of the Worst (tt3787912)
Game Theory (tt4547008)
and of course JonTron (tt2362231)

But there are shows with just season 1 on IMDb:
Your Grammar Sucks (tt3087620)

However, for JonTron, Jon Jafari has claimed at least where the boundary between the season 2 and 3 are. So there are at least seasons in this case. Still no words of where 2 starts or if there's even season 4. So season 2 and 4 are "guesstimates".
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Are we even sure that all the videos on JonTron's channel have been added? I hope no one went and numbered all the episodes according to what IMDb already had, regardless of how many episodes there actually are. If you need to squeeze in a missing episode, you'll have to change the numbers of all the subsequent episodes in that "season."

I dislike anyone numbering the episodes of a YouTube series, unless the content creator has added the numbers himself. You never know whether old videos have been deleted. Deleted or not, any episode that has existed qualifies for entry on IMDb. We all know how censorious YouTube has been lately. There's no way to know how many videos there have been on a channel unless you have kept a careful eye on it since day one.
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> There's no way to know how many videos there have been on a channel unless you have kept a careful eye on it since day one.

This is certainly true. But for all knowledge there is about JonTron, only one video is missing on IMDb. ("Goldeneye 007 Wii Review?", As mentioned above). – For popular channels, it's hard to hide what old videos have existed. People on the internet are real detectives.

But isn't this also true for obscure TV shows that people don't keep track of? You can use an episode list from some source (just like you can do with YouTube shows), and it might be missing episodes, that when later discovered, has to be inserted.

> I dislike anyone numbering the episodes of a YouTube series, unless the content creator has added the numbers himself.

Is this something you only think about YouTube series? What about other content like news shows? The Daily Show(tt0115147) have numbered episodes, and is that official? Heck, for any TV show; are the episodes officially numbered? My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (tt1751105) have the episodes in the order they premiered, and not the production numbering. So you can easily just number YouTube videos according to the order they premiered in.

But numbering it according to the creator is tricky if they use decimals. Your Grammar Sucks (tt3087620) has an episode numbered 99.5 been #99 The Megarap and #100. Unless IMDb has decimal support, #100 has to be changed to 101. – This is nothing exclusive to YouTube shows, as I'm certain there are other shows with half episodes.

> If you need to squeeze in a missing episode, you'll have to change the numbers of all the subsequent episodes in that "season."

I think your main annoyance is how awkward IMDb is to edit, as there's no option to shift groups of episodes automatically. But you rather want all YouTube videos (unless confirmed to be numbered) to be labelled "unknown" under "unknown season"?
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Regular TV shows appear on a regular schedule and can be confirmed with TV listings. A YouTube channel can have four videos one day and none for the rest of the week. And there's no YouTube equivalent to the TV Guide.

A lot of the regular TV shows do indeed have production numbers and those numbers are often the basis for IMDb's episode numbers.

If a YouTuber numbers one episode 99 and the next one 99.5, that's a two-part episode. Both videos should be on one page with a trivia item to note that the episode was originally released in two separate videos. If each video has its own title, the two titles should appear together with a slash mark to separate them, e.g. "Time Enough at Last/Time to Make the Donuts."

If the number of JonTron's videos can be absolutely confirmed, then by all means number them. But even a big channel like his is hard to verify. We do have excellent internet detectives about, but that just means they could uncover a deleted video JonTron made when his channel was new and small, one no one knows about. And that discovery would throw all the IMDb numbers out of whack.
I think your main annoyance is how awkward IMDb is to edit, as there's no option to shift groups of episodes automatically.
I never thought about that. If there were an easy way to renumber multiple episodes, that could change my opinion.
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That is a very often problem with web-series: many web-series don't have any clearly defined seasons, so they're often divided in such by years. Some creators do have clear specification of where and what starts and ends, though: "The Angry Video Game Nerd" (2004-), for example, has one.