I have twice tried to change Shane Robson's credit in "Leaving Neverland", from "Self - Brother of liar" to "Self - Brother of Wade Robson". This credit is judgmental. It is more objective to add that Shane Robson is Wade Robson's brother; or leave it only as "Self". But twice I have been rejected because somebody was "unable to verify". In the end, we do not know who has lied or not in the indictment that Michael Jackson was a pedophile. Jackson is now dead, and I think that it is a sick attitude to say somebody is a liar or not, in order to fumigate the reputation of some star.
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GMJ, Champion
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Edgar,
Please post the 18-digit reference number of the submissions so an IMDb representative can review the updates and respond.
Please post the 18-digit reference number of the submissions so an IMDb representative can review the updates and respond.
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200719-174922-038000
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Thanks Edgar.
Please ready my reply below.
Thanks
Please ready my reply below.
Thanks
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Edgar.
What does the screen credits list him as?
That is all that matters.
Also, if everyone listed in the credits on screen has no designation then every single one of these needs to have all the embellishments removed and just be listed as self.
The person that added all of them needs a reprimand. And if your submission has no screenshot of the credits to prove your submission, it is invalid as well.
So, Edgar.
Does this documentary have any of these descriptions that are underlined below?
Like this example:
Debbie Rowe
...
Self /
Former Wife of Michael
(archive footage) (uncredited)

What does the screen credits list him as?
That is all that matters.
Also, if everyone listed in the credits on screen has no designation then every single one of these needs to have all the embellishments removed and just be listed as self.
The person that added all of them needs a reprimand. And if your submission has no screenshot of the credits to prove your submission, it is invalid as well.
So, Edgar.
Does this documentary have any of these descriptions that are underlined below?
Like this example:

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LOL you don't need onscreen credit for any of these character descriptions.
They are perfectly fine and that's the correct way to add them.
Only name credit is enough to list them as credited and with these custom character descriptions.
It's not mandatory to have these character names on screen.
You can list uncredited ones with the uncredited attribute and again, with custom character names.
But in this case you don't even need onscreen name credit to list them as credited, if the name is spoken then it counts as credited and you don't need to add the uncredited attribute, because this is a documentary.
Being clueless like this and demanding reprimand for others, jeez.
They are perfectly fine and that's the correct way to add them.
Only name credit is enough to list them as credited and with these custom character descriptions.
It's not mandatory to have these character names on screen.
You can list uncredited ones with the uncredited attribute and again, with custom character names.
But in this case you don't even need onscreen name credit to list them as credited, if the name is spoken then it counts as credited and you don't need to add the uncredited attribute, because this is a documentary.
Being clueless like this and demanding reprimand for others, jeez.
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Thank you. I also tried to place Wade Robson and Jimmy Safechuck at the top of the cast list, because this documentary is about them, they were interviewed and shot for this film, but moderators insist on leaving Michael Jackson on top, when the singer only appears in archive footage and does not receive on-screen credit. It apperas as a few moderators are ardent MJ's fans and protect their star's clout, even if his first credit in this case is false. Anyway, this is another story. Thank you again.
Elizabeth, Employee
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Hey Edgar, thanks for flagging this for us. I've corrected this and taken a look to make sure everything else is in it's place as well as steps to prevent this from occurring again. Please let us know if you see anything else!
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Can you also change the "Mother of Wade Robson" to "Mother of Wade" to make it consistent with the rest of the cast listing? Because all other people are listed as "of Wade" not "of Wade Robson"
I would submit a change but you are saying you put a lock on the title page so asking you first.
I checked an archived page of the title from 2019 and it was "Mother of Wade" and consistent with the rest of the listing. It seems it's changed along with other vandalisms on the title.
I would submit a change but you are saying you put a lock on the title page so asking you first.
I checked an archived page of the title from 2019 and it was "Mother of Wade" and consistent with the rest of the listing. It seems it's changed along with other vandalisms on the title.
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