Keyword didn't go through on family titles. Why?

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Why isn't the "Psychedelic Image" keyword accepted on these movies?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084649/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069289/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084060/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076416/

I corrected the spelling of "Psychadelic" to "Psychedelic" by changing the A to an E and submitted it, but unfortunately, it didn't go through on these movies because they're family movies while the keyword itself was only accepted on the adult-oriented movies, which is a huge problem. Can you add the "Psychedelic Image" keyword on them?
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Curious. Where did you find the misspelled word "Psychadelic" in the database for correction?
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Also could you provide screenshots of these "Psychedelic Images" on each title.
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You need to brush up on what constitutes a Psychedelic Image or imagery.
I looked at The Secret of NIMH (4/9) Movie CLIP - The Great Owl (1982) HD.
It Colorful. It's not Psychedelic Imagery.

This is






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But did you watch the rest of the clips? They all have psychedelic imagery, even the Snoopy, Come Home one because of the different perspectives.
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Looked at the Transformers. It does.
Not going to look at the rest.
You have provided enough for IMDb to make a determination on your rejections.
Good Luck

Ed
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Seriously, you don't even understand a word I'm saying.
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It was this keyword.

https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword?keywords=psychedelic-image

And the keyword was on these titles and a few others before I corrected it to "Psychedelic Image", but instead of changing, it disappeared just on the family ones.
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The movies themselves have psychedelic stuff.
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Screenshots please if you will....
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I don't have the time.
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But you can try Google Images.
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Time? I can?
Your the submitter of the data.
IMDb staff nor I will do the work.
You make submissions and the extra work if needed when required.
Thanks
Cheers

Ed
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Like I said, the submissions didn't go through.
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Seriously......"Psychedelic Images" in these titles?


Snoopy Come Home PosterThe Transformers The Movie PosterThe Secret of NIMH Poster
Heidis Song PosterThe Mouse and His Child Poster

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Yes. In some of their scenes.

And I meant this keyword.

https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword?keywords=psychadelic-image

Like I said, it disappeared right after I corrected it to "Psychedelic Image".
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Somebody at IMDb undoubtedly removed those titles as they do not contain those images.
You will have to provide proof they do contain such images.
I can recall at least 3 out of the 5 as not having those images.
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Oh, for the love of...you've never seen any of these movies, have you?
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Yes I have. I can say I was forced by my girlfriend when I was 17 in 1972 to a Saturday Matinee to see Snoopy Come Home. She was babysitting her 8 year old sister.
It was embarrassing. But you'll do almost anything for a girl!!!
So please don't tell me what I've seen. I'm old enough to have lived through the the "Era" in question.
Cool?
Thanks
Ed
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Hi, filmlover24.

You were right when changed "psychadelic" to "psychedelic". 
But the rest of your explanations invites me to put the question:
What do you mean under "psychedelic"?

It is hard to find family (by genre) movies with elements of psychedelia. Otherwise, it would be difficult to mark them as "family".
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They have trippy sequences.
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In such case, my suggestion is: 
  1. Try to find the best match among existing ones: https://www.imdb.com/find?ref_=nv_sr_fn&q=sequence&s=kw;
  2. If no matches, try to add the new keyword "trippy sequences" (that may be rejected);
  3. It's never late to know the meaning of "psychedelic" in online dictionaries: American Heritage Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, Cambridge Dictionary.
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That's not what I meant, I mean they have trippy sequences, that's why they're supposed to have the keyword "psychedelic image".
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filmlover24, "trippy" does not equal "psychedelic".

According to Wikipedia, "The word "psychedelic" (coined by British psychologist Humphry Osmond) means "mind manifesting". By that definition, all artistic efforts to depict the inner world of the psyche may be considered "psychedelic"." While many scenes with hallucinations etc. may fall under such description, it's not automatically applied to every single scene that looks "trippy" due to combination of vibrant colors, surreal imagery etc.

Moreover, the keyword should have been formulated akin to "psychedelic-imagery", because "image" is a singular word, which is simply not used in the meaning you are trying to convey with the addition. It will simply confuse whoever will stumble upon the keyword.  
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You've never seen these movies, have you? Unless you saw at least one of them.
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filmlover24, I'm not sure whether you're asking me or MAthePA. Anyhow, I've seen at least one of these movies, but I still think you need to explain your definition of "psychedelic" in that case.  
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When I say the movies have psychedelic images, I mean there's some sequences with hallucinatic imagery in them.
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"hallucinatic imagery" may correspond to "psychedelic images" only when the hallucination resulted from drugs
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This is becoming so impossible, it's ridiculous. You don't understand, do you?
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There's sequences that were ANIMATED on dugs. You're taking this way too seriously.
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filmlover24,
a) MAthePA is right. 
b) there is no such word as "halucinatic", the word you're looking for is "hallucinatory". 
and
c) Precisely, we can't understand your points.  If you want to be understood, please, try to be more clear. Describe scenes in question in detail. Make actual points about issue and present the evidence, instead of using non-existent words or words in contexts which are not true for them. To put it simple, we are having difficulties understanding your points and it would have been nice of you to use a more direct approach instead of answering with questions.
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The Secret of NIMH: This is an origin scene where drugs were ejected into lab animals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kd8-L42BCU

Transformers: The Movie: This opening sequence has some futuristic, psychedelic imagery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lo7JPLJUUU

Snoopy, Come Home: I don't know if this counts, but there's some different perspectives that look absolutely creative. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3c4vzg

Heidi's Song: These are two musical sequences with some trippy imagery, the first one being a dream sequence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTocwfwZuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmcEYVz4cqA

The Mouse and His Child: This sequence is weird, with a closeup animated on drugs because of its use of infinity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EiF3KLpTS0
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filmlover24, yes, we are taking it seriously. Because IMDb is a database, it has a serious approach based and grounded in factual information. 

Moreover, if you don't have evidence that any scene in this animated films were made by people who used drugs, please restrain from such claims. I might be too agitated by it but "made on drugs" is a tired cliché that must be put down. Drugs effect on brain can't make them more creative, it only boosts whatever there is from the start. Real-life movies which were reportedly made with key crew members being on drugs include The Third Man (1949) and The Incredible Torture Show (1976). First one is adequate (if stylized) with meticulously planned production design, while second is an incoherent mess which is not surreal or "trippy" in any way, just incoherent.  
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filmlover24, that is much better! 

However, scene in The Secret of NIMH (1982) just has drugs in it and no psychedelic imagery whatsoever. As for other scenes I believe that Heidi's Song (1982) is eligible because it is a dream sequence and the same goes for The Mouse and his Child (1977), which utilizes the Droste effect, implying that it was amplified by an oxygen starvation. Again, I'd rather restrain myself from saying that it was made on drugs, because Droste effect is a technique which can easily produce that effect as a conscious artistic choice. 

Snoopy scene has nothing remotely psychedelic in it, just using a slightly surreal impossible geometry and "cartoon logic".
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Your education is showing!!!
If I only knew half of what you know about film making! LOL
Good explanation Nikolay.
Ed
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That sequence from NIMH actually has a couple of shots with imagery like that.

And if the Snoopy, Come Home example doesn't count, I'd post this opening sequence, because it has some psychedelic imagery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtpK_QBFTQ4
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filmlover24, I'd say it has more in common with surrealism rather then psychedelic imagery. 
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But it's actually something that has to do with the effects of the drugs, right?
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filmlover24, just to clarify: I've never tried drugs (that if you don't count alcohol and caffeine as such, both of which do not affect me normally as quantities I need for considerable effect are much higher then usually needed), but I read, compared and consulted a lot, because, well, it's easy to become interested in the subject when you constantly hear from other people that your own works must be made on drugs (an example which often makes people say that) when they were not.  

General consensus: replicating drug effect is nearly impossible on actual drugs, because warped perspective will just make result incoherent for perception. That is if we're not talking about professionals and creative people who are not as affected by drugs, but that proves the point exactly that drugs are not as crucial in producing psychedelic imagery. Mind is.  

An additional example that, I hope, might explain something: that song by Ozzy Osbourne was most likely written and performed on drugs (and if not then Osbourne already had permanent side effects of such, which he survived thanks to a rare genetic mutation). Despite that lyrics make perfect sense and are actually of a very decent level.      
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There is a chance of experiencing slight psychedelic vision if your body is thrown into a hypoglycemic state due to burning too much fat while fasting. I wouldn't know how it compares to an actual drug "trip", though.
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You should post submission reference numbers for IMDb staff to look into.

I think it's possible that the updates were just delayed so they could be checked.
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#190501-030613-998000
#190501-030942-766000 
#190501-031843-886000
#190501-032034-466000
#190501-032230-474000
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filmlover24, message was caught in the SPAM filter (I fished it out). Not sure whether it could have been avoided with something like "Here are the numbers", but with at least one sentence in such messages the chances are of being caught at random are not as high.  
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Sorry. Here are the numbers.

#190501-030613-998000
#190501-030942-766000 
#190501-031843-886000
#190501-032034-466000
#190501-032230-474000
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Hi filmlover24 -

I can see that these submissions, requesting to add the keyword 'psychedelic-image', have been approved and are now listed on the related titles.  Cheers!