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I was watching "Call Me By Your Name" tonight and the story (of which I have also read the book) is about a gay love affair between a 17 year old boy and a 22ish male border. Someone added the keyword "pedophilia". 

Nothing in this story is even close to pedophilia. Pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent children. A 17 year old boy is not pre-pubescent. I'm fairly certain this keyword was added to slander a movie about a gay love affair.

IMDb should really be careful about accepting loaded keywords. While pedophilia is a perfectly fine keyword and there are many movies that involve pedophilia, IMDb should verify the content before adding this keyword. Otherwise, it can be used to slander movies that may be against someones "religious beliefs".
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Maybe some asleep audiences mistake Elio for younger than Elio is and Oliver for older than Oliver is.
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I don't know if IMDb automatically knows if the application of a keyword is loaded or not.
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That may be possible but it is extremely unlikely. I don't think anyone could mistake Elio for being an 11 year old boy. The actor, at the time of filming, was around 21. Also, there is a long history in the the US of conflating homosexuality with pedophilia.

I doubt IMDb knows automatically whether keywords are loaded. I'm just suggesting they flag some such keywords to require human validation.
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Some people genuinely don't understand that the most appropriate use of the word "pedophilia" refers to the prurient interest of a post-pubescent person in a prepubescent person, whether a loving relationship is involved or not, whether advantage taking is involved or not. They see it broadly in the context of a person at or above the age of majority being with a person under the age of majority, which will, for an actual case of it, be a problem for as long as minors are treated as second-class citizens, regardless of whatever number a nation or administrative subdivision thereof designates as a number for such a concept.

The law factors into this in such a way as to render any "he said / she said" disputes across the line of the age of consent irrelevant, and a minor will not have to worry about an adult lying about the nature of a proved instance of sexual contact, as in whether the contact is coercive, extortive, exploitative or indeed neither violent nor tortful.

To get back on track, we can consider people who adopt the broader interpretation as incorrect. It is understandable to view the interpretation that way, given the meaning of the word "child", and the fact that there are indeed other words available to describe sexual contact between adults and non-prepubescent minors/youth: hebephilia and ephebophilia. Those words can be used instead.

On something of a side note, Adrian, you can please spare us references to "religious beliefs" and the cultures of the United States. We don't know that it has anything to do with it. The atheistic Soviet Union had the same views. Similar has been the case with the People's Republic of China, as well as North Korea, Cuba and post-glasnost post-perestroika Russia (along with non-Russian former Soviet bloc nations). I'm not buying this conjecture of a general intent of some contributors to defame movies about homosexual relationships. If somebody was out to use the keywords system to defame such movies, they would apply the keyword "pedophilia" to movies in which there are child characters and homosexual adult characters whereby there is no sexual contact between any child character and any adult character; an actual lie, in other words.

There can be merit in flagging some keywords to require human validation, but it is not something that could be effectively applied to all movies, series, specials, videos and games registered into the database. Specifically protecting Call Me By Your Name would be fine.
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Hi Adrian -

I just wanted to chime in here to confirm that the keyword you reported is no longer listed on the title page.  I have also taken further steps to prevent the keyword from incorrectly being re-listed on the title. 

If you encounter any future instances of similar issues with any of the terms mentioned in this thread, please report them for removal through our online form and our staff can take the appropriate actions. 
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Someone told me, in that time in Italy the age of consent between two persons that have a gap in ages is 16. So in 1983, it wasn't illegal this relationship because
1st it was consented
2nd Elio's age is 17

Even in this days if is consented between the two persons and respected the minimal age of the younger person that it's 14 in my country (Portugal) , it's not a crime according to law.

Some people say this kind of stuff because they don't know the law what I think it's not a serious thing.

And some other people say this because they are ignorant.
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Naturally discussions on this subject focus on age of consent, but age of majority is important too. Even though there are all kinds of protections of minors (such as in the workplace, civil liability and criminal liability), adults still have extensive advantages (simply by virtue of having more freedom) over minors. Some adults abuse the advantage. Just like with age of consent, policies concerning emancipation vary across sovereign nations.
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