Massive "Dark Shadows" Problem

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During the run of "Dark Shadows", the series was pre-empted or skipped 20 times causing several episodes to be double or triple numbered. For example, episode 108 was numbered as "108-109-110". This led to the last episode being numbered "1245" while in actuality being the 1225th episode produced. These episodes are standard in every way (not specials or double length) except for the numbering. Unfortunately, IMDb lists 1245 episodes of "Dark Shadows" listing even the episodes which don't exist. For example, single episode numbered "108-109-110" is listed as three separate episodes. This screws up the plot synopses and cast/crew lists on most of the episodes since they are more often than not entered correctly into an incorrect system. For example, episode listed as "109" actually contains the plot synopsis for episode "111" etc. This seems to me to be a far too great problem for a user to correct. Here is a list of all double or triple numbered episodes in the series:

108-109-110 (actually 108)
130-131 (actually 128)
225-226 (actually 222)
368-369 (actually 364)
390-391 (actually 385)
532-533 (actually 526)
633-634 (actually 626)
652-653 (actually 644)
801-802 (actually 792)
823-824 (actually 813)
894-895 (actually 883)
913-914 (actually 901)
919-920-921 (actually 906)
1134-1135 (actually 1119)
1154-1155 (actually 1138)
1174-1175 (actually 1157)
1179-1180 (actually 1161)
1207-1208 (actually 1188)

This means you have 20 episodes listed on IMDb which simply don't exist and yet very often contain information pertinent to other episodes. There are also 3 episodes listed under "Unknown Season" which also don't exist or are duplicates of episodes already listed.
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Will: While I don't have personal knowledge of the situation (and have never watched "Dark Shadows"), looking at the Wikipedia article you linked, it appears that the combined episode numbers reflect the fact that the show would have been preempted on what would have been the following scheduled airdate. As the lead of the Wikipedia article says, "A total of 1,225 episodes were produced, but during the course of its run, the show was pre-empted 20 times ago. ABC would compensate for this by occasionally skipping, double numbering and, in one case, triple numbering episodes in order to keep a show ending in a 5 or 0 airing on Fridays." This is consistent with what Mateja wrote above.

I don't think there were any "back-to-back" episodes of the series. The entire series was preserved (unlike most soap operas), except for one episode where only an audio recording survives, and has been released on DVD in its entirety. If there was a double-length or triple-length episode, the fans would certainly know about it.

For example, the first "combined" episode, "108/109/110", aired on Nov. 23, 1966. The following two days, on which the show did not air, were Thanksgiving and the day after Thanksgiving, on which different television programs aired (for example, a football game preempted "Dark Shadows" on Nov. 24).

Or to take another example, "801/802" aired July 22, 1969. No episode is listed as being aired on Monday, July 21, 1969 -- the day that the Apollo 11 astronauts were on the moon and regular programming was preempted.

Unfortunately, as Mateja indicates, there are nonexistent episodes entered into IMDb. For example, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1269815/, #1.109, is listed as being broadcast on Nov. 24, 1966, when as mentioned above, it was Thanksgiving and a football game was shown in place of the regular programming.

I suspect it will take a lot of work to fix this problem, but it would make sense for the Nov. 23, 1966 episode to have the title "108/109/110", as shown in the Wikipedia article, but the IMDb episode number #1.108, as standard. The following episode, broadcast on Nov. 28, 1966, would then have the title "111" but the IMDb episode number #1.109. Hence, the production numbering (also used on the DVDs) would be preserved in the episode titles but standard IMDb numbering would be used for the IMDb episode numbers.
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