Mike B. Anderson (yet again)

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For the third time in a month, someone has moved all of Mike B. Anderson's supervising director credits for the Simpsons from the director's section to the Second Unit Director section. Can we get them moved back (again) and reach out to the person that keeps doing this?
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Mike B. Anderson (again)
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/mike-b-anderson-again

by Adrian, Champion
Posted 3 weeks ago
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Somebody moved all Mike B. Anderson's supervising director to "Second Unit Director or Assistant Director " section
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/somebody-moved-all-mike-b-andersons-supervising-director-to-...

by Adrian, Champion
Posted 1 month ago
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Hi Adrian,

Please see Eboy's response on https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/somebody-moved-all-mike-b-andersons-supervising-director-to-second-unit-director-or-assistant-director-section

Normally we would list these credits as director, however this case is quite unique. We have purposefully chosen to keep these credits in the assistant director section based on the responsibilities of the role as it relates to the title in question, given our knowledge of the situation. Although this isn't ideal for consistency, it is the correct way to list the credits in relation to the responsibilities of the position for this show.

I hope this helps to explain the decision and apologies for any confusion caused by our responses.

Regards,
Will 

 
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Thanks Adrian. We appreciate that this isn't fair on users who do not have the access to this additional information. The responsibilities of this job role can vary wildly, which makes it difficult to delineate and enforce a policy to house these credits on a case by case basis, whilst expecting users to consistently follow it. In light of this we have reverted the credits to the director section to be consistent with the way we store the rest of these credits on IMDb.

Thanks again,
Will
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I hate when data is duplicated, but the cases similar to this one might be better processed as follows: 
  1. The credited work should be submitted as it is in titles, but with attribute "in titles only";
  2. The factual work should be submitted as "uncredited";
  3. The reasons for both of the above should be explained in trivia section.
When a better (or say "modern") system will be provided, then such thing are much easier to fix.
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Thanks for the feedback; it has nothing to do with how "modern" any system is here.

Adrian's point neatly summarises the issue. Your suggestions are interesting (thanks) but not particularly practical and could open the floodgates to all kinds of "I know I am credited as <x> but really I did <y>" claims which would, by and large, be unverifiable, unscalable and open to fraud.  Sorry. 
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Col Needham, thank you. Indeed, I think the same. The above sugg of mine resulted from the attempt of IMDb staff to overcome this problem other ways. If they are going to proceed as such, it should be better done as I suggested, IMHO.
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Hi Adrian,

Just to let you know we've documented that supervising directors belong in the director section in the submission guides now.

Regards,
Will
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Just to clarify: all the ”series director”, ”supervising director”, ”main director” etc type of credits belong to the ”Director” department (except certain exceptions like ”The Simpsons”)?


How about credits like ”animation director” or ”voice director”? These imply that the person has directed certain sections of the production (like animation, voice acting etc), but not the whole thing.


Also, what is the ”rule” in the cases where both the ”supervising director” and ”director” (the latter being the director of the particular episode) are credited? Both are added to ”Director” department?


( Older thread: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi... )
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Additionally, I'd like to point out that "Supervising" may appear in any section as predicative not only to "director". When a system is modern enough, it should provide such things (supervising, executive, assistant, line, and so on and so forth) as option to add anywhere as additional attribute when submitting data.
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