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Hello,
I was one of several cinematographers on this National Geographic series.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6422462/?ref_=ttep_ep4

My name can be seen in the end credits here:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6422462/mediaviewer/rm2846441472

I have tried unsucessfully many times over the past year to get this credit added.
180605-175747-609000 was the last one.

Please advise. Thanks.
-Niles
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Steve Crook, Champion

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Hello Niles,
What did you submit it as? The cinematographer category is just for the one leading cinematographer. Anyone else should be submitted in the Camera and Electrical Department.

Steve
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Niles Harrison

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Currently there are 7 cinematographers listed on that episode. I am the 8th as shown in the credits. There was no leading cinematographer.
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Even though you’re credited on screen as one of the 8 “Directors of Photography” I think that you should still submit as a member of the Camera and Electrical Department. See the User Guide for Cinematographers / DoPs at https://help.imdb.com/article/contrib...# Steve
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Niles Harrison

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This seems like you are not adhering to the rules in your own user guide. If that credit is only allowed for one person, why are there 7 people listed? I shot the majority of this show and I certainly was not a camera operator or a second unit DP and would not want to be credited as such. 
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Truth to be told, there's no hard rule (maybe we could call it a "soft rule") in IMDb that there can't be multiple "cinematographer/director of photography" credits. IMDb can't really make that kind of rule, since credits can differ. Often there's only one DoP, that's true, but there are millions of different productions shot over the years (often shot all over the world with different crew members). I guess at the end of the day (for better or worse) it's up to the production company how people are credited.

So instead of arguing over IMDb guides, it would be ideal to see the actual credits of this series/episode (meaning screen shots of the credits)? IMDb often requires proof anyway, and screenshot is pretty good way in most cases.

Steve's points are still valid, though. If some person is credited e.g. "director of photography: New York", "additional cinematography" or something like that, they're credited to "camera department". And in older productions the DoP can be sometimes credited as "camera" (which can be tricky for the IMDB's point of view), or "camera operator" - and it goes to "camera department" (e.g. Roger Deakins was the only DoP in the older documentary "Around the World with Ridgway", but he was credited as "cameraman" and therefore is now listed in the "camera department".


  • The camera department list includes those jobs that generally fall under the camera, electric and grip departments, but do not have their own lists. Thus, cinematographers are not included here, since they have their own list. However, modifications of that job title (assistant cinematographer; director of photography: New York; underwater photographer) are included in this list.
  • For our purposes, the camera department includes camera functions (assistant camera, clapper/loader, focus puller), electrical/lighting functions (gaffer/chief lighting technician, best boy/assistant chief lighting technician, generator operator, cable puller), and grip functions (key grip, assistant key grip). Camera-related functions performed during principal photography, such as digital imaging technician, video assist and 24-frame playback also fall here.
  • A list of the occupations currently being used can be displayed by clicking on the gray list icon (  ) next to the occupation field.
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Hi Niles -

I'm just following up here to confirm that the Cinematography Department is the correct section for 'Director of Photography' credits, while it is unusual that eight individuals are credited under this role, as long as the credit is 'Director of Photography" they are eligible to be listed in this section.  Please rest assured that your credit has now been added to the episode title page, cheers!
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Thanks so much for rectifying this!
I realize it is an unusual situation to have 8 DPs but that was how production went.
I'm glad to finally see the credit for some work that I was rather proud of as well.
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I Can't fird The Superbowl Half time show 2018 so I can add my camera credit- help
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Hello Gigi,
What has The Superbowl Half time show got to do with Game of Drones(2017)?
Should this be a new, separate query?
    Steve