Music video compilations vs music videos - clarification?

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Hi.

Maybe this issue has been discussed before, but how to add music videos AND music video compilations to IMDb?

For example (there are probably plenty of similar titles), ”Madonna: Celebration - The Video Collection” (2009) is in IMDb, with several directors, writers, producers (also actors) etc listed - with different ”segments” (videos).
( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2866056/... )

To my understanding, IMDb now also accepts music videos as individual titles. Again for example, Madonna’s music video ”Madonna: Love Profusion” (2004), directed by Luc Besson, is also in IMDb. This will basically give two Director credits from Besson for the same work. Same thing with producer David Naylor (I).

Long story short: what is IMDb’s policy when it comes to music videos themselves, and separate music video compilations (released on VHS, DVD and Blu-ray)?

Thanks.

( Additional question: many music videos probably doesn’t have any real ”credits”. What’s IMDb’s policy of this issue? )
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Hi Eboy,

No, the compilation shouldn't be valid as a title in its own right in the same way as other compilations, unless there is a lot of additional content produced that doesn't exist elsewhere. In those very few cases then the title may be added as a shell and only have credits that relate to the additional content, to avoid duplicated credits. Do you know if all of these Madonna videos already exist on IMDb and also if there was a lot of additional content produced for this release? If not then it should likely be removed.

In the case of the credits issue we make an exception and will allow credits to be added to music videos without the (uncredited) attribute where appropriate.

I hope this helps explain the policy.

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Will
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Hello, Will! 

Stumbled upon the thread and became curious for some clarification. 

The thing is that most VHS and DVD compilations tend to have some wraparound sequences and or exclusive bonus content, like The Work of Director Michel Gondry (2003) and Michel Gondry 2: More Videos (Before and After DVD 1) (2009). These qualify because they have a lot of additional work about them, but what qualifies as a minimum for such additional work? 

Because I remember music video compilations one way or another being on IMDb since its inception. Probably since most of the VHS/LaserDisc/DVD/Blu-Rays required a lot of additional work about them almost by default.   
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Hi Nikolay -

Just to clarify, our editors scrutinize each case individually, verses meeting a specific minimum criteria for additional work.
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Great thanks for clarification, Michelle! 
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No, the compilation shouldn't be valid as a title in its own right in the same way as other compilations, unless there is a lot of additional content produced that doesn't exist elsewhere. In those very few cases then the title may be added as a shell and only have credits that relate to the additional content, to avoid duplicated credits.
This is understandable (for the duplicate credits), but I'm pretty sure that there are probably hundreds of similar "video compilations" in IMDb, if you count all the countries. It's not that only Madonna and Pet Shop Boys have released these.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I certainly can be), but I actually thought that the music videos were not accepted some years (?) ago, but music video "compilations" (VHS, LD, DVD, Blu-ray) were? Now that policy is reversed?

Do you know if all of these Madonna videos already exist on IMDb and also if there was a lot of additional content produced for this release? If not then it should likely be removed.
Sorry, I'm not an expert of these releases - and I haven't cross checked all the credits. It's very true, that basically every music video should be added to IMDb as "individual" title before deleting the "compilation"?
In the case of the credits issue we make an exception and will allow credits to be added to music videos without the (uncredited) attribute where appropriate.
Music videos can be added without the "(uncredited)" attribute? No "can of worms" in this policy?


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Eboy, five cents on music video credits: 
a) One might look for versions with credits, which are, usually, studio originals and therefore credits are pretty much legit. Occasionally such versions slip onto YouTube as official releases, as it happened with Noel: Silent Morning (1987) for example, as seen here.  
b) Not sure myself whether those count, bot most videos have comprehensive credits in the video description on YouTube. If those not count as credits, well... We will have uncredited "special thanks" more often then not and that might as well be explained in some guidelines. :)
c) Partial credits can often be found at the end or beginning of the video. Simple band identifier counts already (and members of the band current to video production can therefore be considered credited for appearing and performing with attributes akin to "(as The Beatles)"), as does something like this in Kasabian: Vlad the Impaler (2009).
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Sure, some music videos can have credits, I didn’t say otherwise. There are also exceptions, and exceptions to exceptions. There are also longer music videos that are basically ”short films” as much as ”music videos”.

But let’s say that some camera operator, make-up artist or production assistant (just some random examples of credits that probably are not listed with music videos) wants to have her/his name on the music video credits, can they be listed without the ”(uncredited)” attribute? What proof is needed if/when there are no actual credits?

Or is it that only artists/bands/actors, directors, producers (and maybe cinematographers and editors in some cases) have a special ”fast line” to get credits to IMDb music videos? I mean, if fair is fair, the director and production assistant should be on the same line.

Also, I have currently one DVD release that includes live songs, music videos, some TV productions and some interviews of the particular band. I’m not really sure that should I...
1) Add the DVD to IMDb, which includes also (e.g.) music video related credits?
2) Only add the music videos from the DVD.
I mean both cannot be added, right? (at least they both can’t include music video related credits)