Names that end with capital letters

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If a name ends with a capital letter when inverted (last name first), the IMDb software won't accept it. So, for example, the baseball player CC Sabathia (who does not use periods after his initials) is listed in IMDb as Sabathia, C.C. --  because Sabathia, CC would end with a capital letter, and the software won't accept that.

Yet there are a few people listed in IMDb whose names do end with a capital letter, such as actresses Callan, K (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0130282/) and Pounder, CCH (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001634/), and rapper/actor Ice-T (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001384/). For those people, the "name ends with capital letter" problem was overcome.

I realize that the use of initials without periods after them should probably be discouraged by the software, because many attempts to add names that end in capital letters without a period at the end are likely to be errors. But not all such attempts are errors. 

I recommend, instead, that attempting to submit a name that ends in a capital letter when inverted should generate a warning that advises the contributor to submit evidence that the person really does spell their name in a way that ends with a capital letter.
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Posted 5 years ago

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Makes sense to me - we've had the occasional person on here with that problem.

I do wonder if this is deliberate though, as the situation is rare and people not properly punctuating names is common they wanted to create a big hurdle to prevent this. As you demonstrate, this can be overcome, either through Misc Comments and/or places like this but that can be a long and frustrating process, so perhaps some extra leeway should be allowd.
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After receiving no staff response for five months, I'm giving this a bump. Thanks to Emperor, Moz, and Peter for their support.
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I'm bumping this again. Thanks to Steve Crook for his support as well.
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Here's another bump.
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Bump.
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I think it made sense to make this an Error, requiring behind the scenes intervention, when it was implemented. However, there has been an explosion of 'unusual' names over the last decade or so, and I believe it is now time to review the policy and in my opinion reduce this to a Warning.
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This is done deliberately. The percentage of legitimate cases where a name ends with a capital letter is still several orders of magnitude smaller than those that are entered that way due to user error or misunderstanding of capitalization rules (e.g. using ALL CAPS when entering names). Preventing them from being entered that way makes more sense than allowing them and then having to correct them large quantities of them after the fact. 

If a new name does end with a capital letter (e.g. "DJ Qualls") it can be entered in a format that is allowed by the submission system, e.g. "D.J. Qualls" and then we can correct it later manually -- it's still substantially easier than the alternative.
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Giancarlo: Thanks for responding. However, can we get this documented in the Names Submission Guide at http://www.imdb.com/help/search?domain=helpdesk_faq&index=2&file=names_all&ref_=hlp_sr_1 or somewhere similar?

It would be helpful to users to know that names cannot be submitted to end with capital letters when inverted, and if the name does end with a capital letter, it should be submitted differently, and the user should then contact the Help Desk to get it fixed.

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