Narrator credit in IMDb even when not credited on-screen?

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Question about a Narrator credit for episodes of a TV series, even when there isn't an on-screen credit during the original broadcast.

Situation: During the original broadcast, sometimes the show has credits (which show the narrator), and sometimes it doesn't. However, the same episodes shown online after the original broadcast, do have on-screen credits.

So my question is, why can't this person have a "(voice) (uncredited)" attribute?  The narrator has obviously done the work, and has received on-screen credit, but just not during the original broadcast.

Yes, I know this is not consistent with the policy stated here:
https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/cast-acting-credits-guidelines/GH3JZC...

So I guess is what I'm asking is for an exception.  Submission 181204-164309-946000

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Question about a Narrator credit for episodes of a TV series,
even when there isn't an on-screen credit during the original broadcast.
by Ron
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The Twilight Zone  (1959-1964)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734631/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734631/reference

Rest of cast listed alphabetically:

Rod Serling   ...  Narrator / Himself - Host (uncredited)
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Hi Ron,

Yes this definitely qualifies as a valid (voice) (uncredited) credit, seeing as he's credited elsewhere on other episodes of the same series.

I've resubmitted these for you now which will go live shortly.

Regards,
Will
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Same series, similar rejection: 181221-042121-309000
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Hi Ron, 

I have resubmitted this update now which will go live shortly. 

Thanks
Meredith
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Same series, same rejection: 190115-142408-601000
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Apologies Ron, I've resubmitted now.

Regards,
Will
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Same series, rejected again (Does not meet contribution guidelines): 190130-021401-668000

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The episode the following week had the same exact credit, and it was accepted, so I tried re-submitting, and got the same rejection, "Does not meet contribution guidelines." 190205-230929-586000
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Hi Ron -

Thanks for reporting these additional incorrect rejections, I have now approved this episode credit and will send an alert to the team to ensure that our acceptance policies are being followed for future submissions.
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Thank you Michelle.

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Same series, rejected again (Does not meet contribution guidelines): 190227-040436-271000
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Hi Ron -

Apologies, the credit has now been added to the episode: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8975822/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Thanks again!
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same station/channel, different show, same problem.
#190401-094911-393000
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Tried again, this time with a link back to this thread, still declined. 190414-145532-754000
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Thanks Ron, I've made that change for you now. If you do make this change again elsewhere please can you reference this thread again and also comment that we have agreed that these changes are within policy?

Thanks,
Will
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Will,
Unfortunately, this doesn't always work.
#191126-190843-116000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
This despite my submission containing:
"these changes are within policy https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/narrator-credit-in-imdb-even-when-not-credited-on-screen"
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Same for #191123-102356-332000
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Same for #191123-031744-596000
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A week passed with no staff involvement, so re-submitted.
#191206-140537-566000
#191206-140635-141000
#191206-140723-384000
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I just wanted to say I respect your perseverance on this matter Ron. Hopefully, a staffer will respond...
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#191209-032837-463000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
Resubmitted: #191211-144245-389000
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#191216-022224-016000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
Resubmitted: #191217-043745-972000

Staff: Please fix (again) this on-going issue.
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Ron Start a new post.
They will ignore this because it is old.
Do not forget to reference this so it is not rejected by an employee that is not familiar with what Michelle and Will have done.
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This thread is referenced in every submission I make of this nature. Sometimes the submission is accepted, and sometimes not.  No consistency.

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#200105-040009-693000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
Resubmitted: #200106-141752-003000

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Start a new post
Do not post here.
Provide a link in the new post to this post.
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#200108-040302-320000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
Resubmitted: #200109-150932-573000

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#200108-040302-320000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
Resubmitted: #200109-150932-573000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
Resubmitted Again: #200115-010407-394000
Declined, Reason: Does not meet contribution guidelines.
Resubmitted a 3rd time: #200116-143535-883000

Staff: Please fix this on-going issue.
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When you submit these credits, do you use the "provide explanation" and post a reference to this thread? I've had problems deleting story editors out of "other crew" and then started referencing the thread where IMDb confirmed those should be deleted and I have less trouble now.
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Thanks for asking Adrian.  I sure do.  I use Will's words, and a link to this thread:
" these changes are within policy https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/narrator-credit-in-imdb-even-when-not-credited-on-screen "