No response after two years and six times trying to update my IMDB profile. PLEASE make this right.

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Hello. I have submitted edits to my IMDB profile six times over the past two years asking that you please remove two incorrect Executive Producer credits attached to my name, Beth Miranda Botshon. Both Spare Change and One Step At A Time, I was the instructor for a film class, not the Executive Producer. I want them taken off of my credit list. The last three submission receipts are: IMDb update receipt #180104-153007-312000 IMDb update receipt #171013-020619-924000 IMDb update receipt #160909-020512-082402
Please make this right. I shouldn’t have had to contact you over six times to get this done. Thank you.
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bethmiranda

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Beth: You currently are shown with "credit only" designations on your page at https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2253279/ for both Spare Change and One Step at a Time. That indicates that you didn't do the work of being an executive producer on those films but were credited anyway.

In the case of One Step at a Time, it looks like you were indeed given an executive producer credit (see https://vimeo.com/135107966 at 3:42), so it would not be appropriate to remove that listing from your IMDb name page. It is already listed as (credit only).
Can you get a screen capture or clip from the credits of Spare Change to prove that you were not credited in that film at all?
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bethmiranda

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Hi! Thanks for your insights - are you an IMDB employee? The point here is that I was the lead instructor for the class where this film was made (part of Summer Arts Institute and Tribeca Film Institute.) If I allowed all of my students to list me as their "executive producer" I would literally have hundreds of "credit only" credits. It's unfair to other students and it's not my work. It shouldn't be part of the list of my work and I would like it to be removed. I notified the student and he was kind enough to submit his own request that the credits be removed as well - he apologized and he understands where I am coming from. He was also frustrated that there was no response about it. Please advise and thanks.
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Hi Beth -

Please note that we have Champion users within the Get Satisfaction community (such as gromit82), they are not staff members (staff members have 'Company Admin' or 'Employee' listed next to their names) however, our Champion users are very helpful and have extensive knowledge of our processes and policies.

Concerning the credit, our aim is to be the most complete and reliable source of movie, TV, and entertainment information on the web. In order to continue offering our users an accurate and trustworthy service, it is our policy not to alter or delete any kind of correct/factual information from our records.. As gromit82 mentioned above, if you didn't work on the title but your name was credited on the film, the credit will need to remain listed on the site with the applicable "credit only" attribute. 
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Hi thanks for this. What I am asking you to do is actually altering something that is not correct. What if the director (STUDENT) writes on my behalf as well and asks that it be taken down? Then will you comply with our requests? 
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Hi Beth -

To clarify, if your name was not credited on-screen then you are welcome to request the removal of the credit, however, if your name was credited on-screen, the credit will need to remain listed.  If the latter is the case, regardless of who requests the removal, it is our policy not to alter or delete any kind of correct/factual information from our records, and the credit will need to remain listed.
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Hello again Michelle. Thanks for your response, but you understand that a student simply typed in a credit for his student film - but the credit is NOT CORRECT or factual? This student (Ian McQueen) was a great student, who made a great film, but I am not the Executive Producer of the film. I was the instructor for the class.  He also requested that you take the credit off. This makes no sense because you say that you want the information on IMDB to be accurate and factual. I am helping you to correct a mistake - a mistake which inaccurately portrays me!                                                  Let's look at it from another perspective -  if someone decided to list Lars Von Trier as their Executive Producer on their student film credits and then you got notice from Lars's team which said, "Hey I didn't okay this credit and I didn't EP the film." Would you tell Lars that you won't take that credit it down simply because the credit was shown on a clip in Vimeo? This logic doesn't seem to make sense. Especially since Ian McQueen is in agreement. I am asking you one last time to please do the right thing and take me off of the credits for Spare Change and One Step at a Time. I was not the Executive Producer. I was an instructor for Tribeca Film Institute Summer Arts Institute. https://www.tfiny.org/programs/detail/summer_arts_institute If you don't do this - I will insist that the student REMOVE THE FILM altogether and I don't want him to have to do that because of his first time filmmaking oversight. THANK YOU!!! :)
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Hello--filmmaker here!

Thanks all for the input so far. As far as the credit is concerned, Beth is right--I have her incorrectly credited as "Executive Producer" instead of "Supervising Teacher", an error I lost sight of rectifying at the time within the constraints of the program limits . We've been in contact back and forth for quite a while about the semantics and such, and I'm very much in agreement that the credit should be removed or correctly re-credited. I would hate to have to remove the film, but if such is the necessary course of action, so be it. It seems such oversights are not so easily corrected, and I intend to take care in the future to have such credits more thoroughly vetted.
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Hullo,
It doesn't matter. If you are credited on the film then you will be credited on IMDb. The "credit only" tag means that you're incorrectly credited. But since you are credited you will remain on IMDb. This happens sometimes and you can (from time to time) run into credit only tags. For instance, William Hartnell wasn't in several episodes of "Doctor Who" but he's still credited on them. So his name appears on those IMDb pages with a 'credit only' tag.

Best wishes,
Mateja
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bethmiranda

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This is a contradictory policy - especially since as Michelle said, IMDB strives for 100% accuracy. Who on Earth would know the difference between a "credit only" and not "credit only" credit? It's redundant. At the very least it should be called "unverified" or "questionable".  I'm disappointed in the policy. Supposedly the option to EDIT credits exists in order to ensure accuracy and integrity.  Here, I'm afraid IMDB has neither. 
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Mateja Djedovic

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Anyone who knows how to use IMDb knows about the credit only tag. It's really not that difficult to grasp. It means a person is credited on the film but hasn't actually done any work on it in that capacity.
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Perry Mason  (1957–1966) 
Trivia
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050051/trivia

Due to illness, Ray Collins only appeared in a few episodes after the 1960 season.
Collins had contracted emphysema brought on by years of smoking,
and he also was beginning to forget his lines
and it was because of this he was forced to leave in the middle of the seventh season.
Despite the fact that Collins was no longer on the show,
it was decided to keep Collins' name in the credits
not only to help keep his spirits up,
but to allow him to keep getting medical benefits from the actors union.
Sadly, Collins died in July 1965
just prior to the start of the show's final season.

Ray Collins (I) (1889–1965)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0172615/
Perry Mason  (1957-1966)
Ray Collins   ...    Lt. Tragg (241 episodes, 1957-1965)

Samples:

Perry Mason (TV Series)
The Case of the Guilty Clients  (1961)
Season 4 | Episode 28
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673291/reference
Ray Collins   ...  Lt. Tragg 

Perry Mason (TV Series)
The Case of the Jealous Journalist  (1961)
Season 5 | Episode 1
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673306/reference
Ray Collins   ...  Lt. Tragg (creditOnly)