Order number for presenter not listed in the credits

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I would like to check my understanding of the guide on order numbers https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/credit-order/G8QZ9QSY5EVKAPNF?ref_=he...#

In a recent submission 191114-225441-641000 I suggested removing the order number for the presenter because this episode, broadcast on 11th November, ended with a special remembrance day VT and there were no end credits.

In other episodes, the presenter is named first in the end credits so order 1 is appropriate but my reading of the guide is that there should be no order number in this case.

The situation is complicated by the presenter not being named at all so perhaps should be uncredited. I am not sure that would be helpful.

Readers in the UK can, for the time being at least, watch the episode in question at https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000b8wz/strictly-it-takes-two-series-17-episode-36
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Hi Owen, if that particular episode did not list any credits, then you are correct the cast order should be amended. 
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I just checked this again and although there were no end credits for this episode, the presenter is introduced by name in a voice over at the end of the opening credits.

According to my reading of the guide, in the absence of a position in other credits, that counts for an order number.

For the episodes where there are two presenters named in the end credits, I believe that is the order that should be used whatever order they are announced in at the start in the voice over.