Pen name?

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I have three films that I wrote and directed under a pen name.  For career purposes and for another project I'm doing,  I would like IMDB to use the pen name for these films, and not my real name.  Is that possible? 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4152156/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4166592/?ref_=nm_knf_i2
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5127356/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_2

At the very least can I have my name as writer/director taken down?  I've tried to do it for one film in movie contributions, but it wont' let me. 

30 April 2019  #190430-024657-686000  

In movie posters, trailers and the movie itself, my pen name, Juan Moctezuma is used.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYecP6lM-1M&t=12s




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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Yes. A new name page needs to be created.
They will be separate.
You need to delete the already existing incorrect credits on your Alaric page.
Then those need to be added to your new Juan page.
If you want them to be interconnected, that's a little more complicated.
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Only one name page is allowed for one person. That would be the ”primary” name (that the person is using the most, I guess) and all the other (note: CREDITED) pen names, nick names, aliases and even mistakes are added with ”as...” attribute.

From the guide: ”Our general rule is to list people in the database under their most recently and/or frequently credited stage or professional name.”


https://help.imdb.com/article/contrib...#

https://help.imdb.com/article/contrib...#

https://help.imdb.com/article/contrib...#
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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And in all three help topics E Boy it does not state that you must go by one name and have only one page. If you wish two pages and have two names, there is nothing that prohibits it.
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Show me where. You can't.
How long will it be before you go this time.
Bye Bye
Go hang with Larry
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Thanks. Stop hiding and reveal who you are a sockpuppet of.
You are providing no input, just criticism. Reveal yourself.
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Go away please you are not contributing.
Thanks, whoever you are a sockpuppet for.
In case you did not notice, a Champion, Nikolay Yerioman gave the same reply.
So, stop harassing
If you reply without real constructive input, you know the next step.
Cheers


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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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That was Geronimo, Nikolay, that I was replying to. He has been suspended.
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Eboy

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Ed, please don't give false advice. It's "one name page only" for each person. If there are two (or more), they should be merged.

Alaric can basically "choose" his primary name, whether it's his real name or the artistic name. But they need to be on the same name page (the other with "as..." attribute).
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There are some exceptions to this rule, mainly collective pseudonyms. Examples include Pavel Bagryak (is in fact six people), AAV Creative Unit, Alan Smithee
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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We make an exception to the rule if we have reason to believe someone will be using a different name for all future credits.
Eboy, that is from the help topic page.
Please refrain from stating incorrect interpretation on your part.
Thanks
Cheers
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Ed, the exception you're quoting relates only to the rule that a person's primary name is usually the one with the most credits.

The bullet points in this guide make this clearer. Note the last bullet point in particular:
We list only one filmography page per person, no matter how many names that person has used during their career. [...] No exceptions.
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Eboy

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Didn't search every guide or old thread out there, but here's Joel's "official" reply from 8 months ago:

We do not allow names to have multiple pages on the database - these will always be merged into a single listing. 
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/split-aka-name-from-page )
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Nikolay, "collectives" probably fall (more or less) under group names. Not fully sure what is the official stance of IMDb when it comes to collectives, though.

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/cast-acting-credits-guidelines/GH3JZC...#


( On a related note, if the name like "Pavel Bagryak" actually consist of six people (as a collective), some trivia to the name page would help. )



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Hi All -

Just to clarify our name listing policy here, there should only be one page per individual on the site.  For instances where an individual is credited under multiple names or has a pen name that is occasionally used, our preference is to list the individual under their primary (most current and commonly used name) and the other names will be listed as Alternate name attributes alongside the applicable credits.

So Alaric - all your credits will need to be listed under your existing IMDb page, for the titles where you are credited on-screen under the name "Juan Moctezuma" (or under any variation of that name) you will need to submit the applicable credit corrections and include the "as..." attribute.  For example: Una mujer sin precio 1961 - Alaric S. Rocha - (as Juan Moctezuma)

For additional information on the use and formatting od Alternate Names, please review the following Help page: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/names-biographical-data/alternate-names-akas/GNYXUSZH8L94...#
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Are you (still) talking about the multiple name pages, or about what the ”primary” name should be (and can the person ”choose” their primary name)?

I mean as Phil already explained:
”Ed, the exception you're quoting relates only to the rule that a person's primary name is usually the one with the most credits.”
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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No. Referring to different names, not "Like" names as stated above by the reference to the other topic and Michelle's answer.

Is the guide valid or is it not?

That is the answer I seek.

If a person chose to be disassociated with their old name and was willing to leave those credits behind and start anew it is allowable. The database help topic currently describes it as an allowable exception.
It really is not the business of the database to attach a name that has no relation to another completely different name that is not spelled the same.
Example:
George Cohen and George M. Cohen. By all means merge.
But if for purposes a persons anonymity they chose a pseudonym that has no relation in name then that individual should be able to do so.
Example: Samuel Clemmons and Mark Twain. For Mr Clemmons maintained separation from his "Pen" name.
If later a valid news article later can link the two then the databases "Accuracy" policy would take over. But if the person chooses to do so and IMDb's help topic says it allows for an exception, "And" does not reference that it "Must" be associated with a previous name that exists, than the policy needs a re-write or if not, the help topic is correct and it is allowed.
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Thank you Michelle.  
Am I able to at least just take my name as writer/director off a film completely?  I tried to and IMDB says "unable to verify".  That is my main goal.  I do not want my name on the film.  

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Alaric Rocha,

IMDb's policy is not to remove any factual information. You have admitted that you are the writer/director of these films so I sincerely doubt IMDb will remove your name from them.
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Hi Alaric, 

Thanks for your response, however as noted it's our policy to not remove factual information from the site. You can follow the steps Michelle has outlined above regarding alternate names on your name page. Thank you!