Please add into Parents' Control section, the ranking of LGBTQ Activities - None, Mild, Moderate, Heavy

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We Christians do not hate LGBTQ people or activities, but we do not want to see them on TV or at movies. Especially very graphic scenes. Many streaming services are adding new content that starts out very benign, then in their third or fourth episode, they insert a very graphic LGBTQ scene. We would not have started watching that series if we had known that this is going to happen. It wastes our time, and only makes us angry and want to never watch streaming series. What a shame. To have it crammed into our face with no warning is not right, and really not fair to us "users of the content." If people have complained enough for you to add the existing Parents' Guide topics, then adding this item would improve your service tremendously. Please consider this very much and just do it.
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If it's important/vivid enough, then it should be covered in the sex&nudity section.

Perhaps you can give an example?

I've seen write-ups where it mentioned kissing that just happened to be with non-LGBTQ actors. I'm not sure why there needs to be a special category. There are orthodox religions that take exception with any kissing and other types of male-female contact and they don't need a special category.
Here's an example.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2103281/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg

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JD, I agree. It is an easy way to Identify the activity (Lifestyle) portrayed without going into detail.
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Semantics. It's his position and action, and you labelled it intolerant. You cannot for sake of argument undo a statement made. If his position walks like an intolerant duck and quacks like an intolerant duck, the Duck IS intolerant. You can't un-ring that bell.
Either apologize for your intolerant remark or do not.

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How mature. You make it clear that your/his opinion is "good," and my opinion is "bad." This is what is wrong with America today. Guess what? My opinion is just as valid as anyone else's opinion. So, who is being intolerant? I merely asked for a new category in Parents' Guide. I first asked IMDb directly, and they said go to this forum. I've posted my request. If it is not approved, so be it. If not approved, then why not get rid of all Parents' Guide topics? My "right" to be informed is just as appropriate as everyone else's. So, grow up and use a tad of that "tolerance" you want to preach about. Quack like a duck.
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I'm on your side. I want what you want. But your way of asking for it is not helping your cause.
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JD, I was addressing Michael. Hope you know that.
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JD, I was addressing Michael. Hope you know that.
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So, why have separate categories for sex & nudity vs. violence? To give better info for folks to make informed choices. Not all sex & nudity is offensive, but if we see "heavy" or "severe" we can decide not to watch. Same with LGBTQ. I do not see how this harms the LGBTQ community. If they see in Parents'Guide that a show or series has LGBTQ activity, they can decide "hey, this is for me." If us Parents that do not want to see it, then we can decide "hey, let's skip this show." As of now. we have to "fly blind" and watch many shows that start out with zero LGBTQ activity, then in Episode 4 - bam, much more than mere kissing. No thank you. Now, we've wasted a lot of time, and only get more angry. Just give us the up-front facts, and let us decide beforehand. Very simple. Just asking for the same treatment as those who complained about the Sex & Nudity, Violence & Gore, Profanity, etc. Enough folks spoke up and got it added. Just asking for one more category that should not be found improper - just information.
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"zero LGBTQ activity, then in Episode 4 - bam"
Sounds like you want to put a scarlet letter or star indicator on shows whether or not they are LGBTQ. If that's the case, then I hope imdb never does it.

You were asked for an example of a show that did what you say. Provide the example please.

I wonder if imdb could also add a religion or religious category. Shows that are too heavy with religion bother me just like sex/nudity, violence/gore, profanity, smoking/drinking.

What do you think? imdb add a religious section to the parent's guide.
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Unlike some people I do not check email every ten minutes. Scarlett Letter? Guess it would go to the TV series or movie, not an individual. Sure, let's make this as mean as possible since that's all some people understand. Season 1, Episode 3 or 4 of "Mr Robot" segues from one scene to another showing a man "slamming it to" another man on top of a bed. "The Boys" starts off violent and graphic, with a split second scene of a man having sex with two others in a bar in the first episode. Then, in Episode 5, a new female character comes out of the blue, and starts groping and fondling one of the old female characters. In Episode 5 of "The Widow" another "new character" is introduced out of the blue in bed with and having sex with one of the earlier characters. Can go on and on, but three examples are plenty. If I had known that these scenes were going to be shown, I would not have "wasted" my time watching the earlier shows. OK, sure if you want to petition IMDb for them to add a Parents' Guide section on Religion, and if they approve it, I have no problem with it. This only informs - it does NOT force anyone to watch or not watch a TV series or a movie. Information is good. Attacking people who simply ask for better information is not. So, get as mean as you want folks. You're only waking up a large group of people who used to remain quiet, and your constant attacks will result in an America that no one wants to live in. Now... I will not move to Russia, and I am not forcing my views on anyone. I only asked for information, not censorship. Get real, people. When you have no argument, you only attack. Hypocrisy at its highest. Stop conflating your own demons with a simple request.
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JD Lewis I don't even want to comment on this one, but it's hard for me not to so... If your religious views dictate so strictly what you believe other people should or should not see in the movies and on TV, consider moving to Russia. And then having hard time adjusting to having twice the problems you have and also being dicriminated by other Christians, because in Russia that is a bit rampant these days. It's either that or seeing LGBTQ people on TV, a simple choice. It might come across as generalization (and it is, to a point), but either you have equal rights for everyone or you have totalitarian half-regulated mess. Middle ground is hardly possible. 

Since most of the world don't want to live in a totalitarian half-regulated mess it won't agree with you on this one, sorry.  
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Adding this category to Parents' Guide does not stop anyone from watching what they want to watch. If a current category of Violence & Gore shows "heavy" does that stop anyone from watching? it does not. I do not want to stop others from doing whatever they want. As said at the beginning, I do not hate LGBTQ people - they can do whatever they want. I just don't want to watch LGBTQ activities. Simple as that. Not stopping anyone else from watching. So.. If the Parents' Guide has a category for this, and I see that there is heavy LGBTQ activity in a movie or TV series, I will not watch it. How is this stopping anyone else from watching? Ludicrous statements. Has nothing to do with totalitarianism or restricting anyone's rights. So, why restrict mine? Because you or someone else do not agree with me? Isn't that what this world is all about? I respect yours and others rights to watch anything you want, and have no desire to stop it. But, why do you and others get so offended when someone else doesn't agree with you? OK, some folks offend me - but, they do not care. Now, who is being intolerant? Conflating my desire for a simple category in Parents' Guide has absolutely nothing to do with Russia or discriminating by other Christians. Geez.. get real people. I totally accept that there is "stuff" out there that I do not want to watch that others do want to watch. How about the other side accepting our point of view instead of attacking, attacking. I have attacked no one, and I have absolutely nothing to apologize for. IMDb... is this really how you solve new ideas? Either add the new Parents' Guide category or do not. If it is not added soon, then many folks I know will simply quit using IMDb - so, how does our leaving hurt anyone else? Go ahead - totalitarian folks, you'll come up with something. Since you have no reasonable argument all you know is to conflate. And attack blindly using something totally irrelevant. 
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JD,
Can you please give the name of the series that you referred to? It will give a sense of what you are talking about and I've asked twice. If there isn't such a series, then for me it just decays your request as being a complete pretext.

You absolutely have the right to not want to watch shows based upon its content. The problem is does your right impact on someone else's rights. At a surface level it doesn't seem as though it does, but it really does. The way to realize this would be to substitute what you want to label with another class. If labeling another class would be wrong, then applying this label would be too.

And out of curiosity, do you want the indicator to include whether or not it has actors that are LGBTQ? That's the problem with the slippery slope. You might say you don't want such an indicator, but someone else might say ya that's a good idea. These are the things that one has to broaden their thinking to.

I don't know how old you are or how old your kids are. I commend you for monitoring what your kids watch. Too many parents do not and in my opinion to the detriment of this country. I tried to monitor what my kids (who are adults with their own kids) did as well, and not always as well as I wished but that had to do more with my wife and I having different philosophies. For what it's worth, there are many websites and organizations, and I think you can do what you want today. But I might be wrong, which is why I'm honestly asking for a show example so that I can see if I'm right or not.
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MtW, JD won't give you a title because it doesn't exist. This has always been about creating a LGBTQ blacklist. All the excuses as to why it was needed was window dressing.
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I'll just add on the Marvel thing that my understanding is that it's the first in the movies but it had already been done in the comics. I'm not sure how I feel about their having their making this out to be such a big thing. Either something works or it does not, and whether this will work is to be seen. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. As to how it might commercially impact the movie, that will be interesting. I wouldn't go see a movie just because it has LGBTQ anymore than I wouldn't if it didn't.
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Michael, your thoughts are welcome just as everyone else's comments. Not pointed at you, but I am discontinuing this dialogue. For almost a week now, I have presented my thoughts and concerns and it feels as though this "process" is a wasted effort. Although I have presented a reasoned and thoughtful rationale for requesting that IMDb include this in its Parents' Guide section for each TV series and movie, it is clear that this "process" of "group-think" is only going to result in attacks on new ideas and/or requests. I have not heard a single reasoned argument against my request, only emotional attacks with nothing to back them up. IMDb - my request stands. It is now up to you to either accept or reject my request. I hopefully add that your organization strongly consider a better "process" for handling these type of requests instead of crowd sourcing via inquisition. Signing off.
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This is certainly nothing personal and you’ve every right to sign off from this thread, but quite frankly it’s unlikely that IMDb would choose just one random ”group” nick named LGBTQ (I don’t even know what that actually means, but that is just me) and would start adding ”None, Mild, Moderate, Heavy” type of categories (note: if I understood the question right.)

They should soon do the same with violence (which probably upsets people even more), language, drug/alcohol use, smoking, horror, etc etc. What happens to be THE issue that upsets the most.
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Eboy: The IMDb Parents Guide already does include "None, Mild, Moderate, Severe" ratings for the following categories:
  • Sex & Nudity
  • Violence & Gore
  • Profanity
  • Alcohol, Drugs & Smoking
  • Frightening & Intense Scenes
However, due to the inconsistency of these ratings, I would recommend that concerned parents should rely more on other services, such as kids-in-mind.com, where standards are applied on a more consistent basis rather than by the vote of random Internet users.
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Fair enough. But those ”categories” you listed are still a bit different (more general) what the original poster suggested. Of course children shouldn’t watch violence, sex and horror in the first place. That’s why we have age ratings (which I support, btw).

But some people don't necessarily have a real problem of their kids watching Rambo killing 466 people (averages 2.59 killings per minute) in the 2008 film, but they’re shocked when two men (quite innocently, I might add) kiss each other maybe one or twice in ”Bohemian Rhapsody”.
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Adding this category to Parents' Guide does not stop anyone from watching what they want to watch.

This is actually true (also) in a sense that there are people who actually want to see certain actors "naked", "topless", in a "sex scene" or whatever (only the imagination is a limit here). IMDb's Parents' Guide is a good way to list those type of things and also to "get away with it".

The point is, that it's best not to be naive when it comes to IMDb's Parents' Guide. There are many different agendas in play.
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