Poll Suggestion: 25 Movie Titles Describing Great Female Directors' Trademarks

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Since the discussion of male dominated movie business started, the poll board users decided to make a poll for female directors. They are not lesser good, just lesser promoted. So the pollboard has chosen a selection of 25 Great female directors and their trademarks described through the titles of other directors movies.
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls049114630/
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i don't think Hollywood is male dominated in the sense that there was some "male" big scheme that decided 80 years ago that only male directors should be allowed in the business.

I don't make this a "man vs. woman" issue, I think it's probably the fact that it took more time for women to reach the highest hierarchical positions in business and management in general and one can consider directing not just as an artistic endeavor but also a management-related activity, managing actors, film-crew, dealing with producing etc. So pioneers like Ida Lupino paved the way to female directors but statistically speaking, there were probably as many female directors as there were CEOs.

So I don't think they were lesser promoted, I think there simply was less female directors, period because the position was harder to reach for women and maybe they could only realistically dream of being actresses or writers. 

Sometimes, it's also a matter of career, a critic said that if Elaine May (who knows that name anymore) made more movies after the 70s, her 70s movies such as "The Heartbreak Kid" or "Mikey and Nicky" would have had the same resonance than "Taxi Driver" and I kind of agree with that. Maybe Hollywood doesn't prevent women from making movies, but maybe from being more prolific than men I don't know... can't be just a matter of inspiration.
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I would agree, if that would be my experience, too. I knew there are women who produce and such things, but while men are always big promoted to public and you can read their name five to ten times in bigger articles, women are really not so promoted. I could ask the people around me, wich would be the biggest femal director in Hollywood and I'm pretty sure 90% would answere: I think the woman who made this war movie and beat 'Avatar' with it. That might also be, because in my country it just rises to know about who did what movie. Not all people around are movie junkies. I have people around that know each male japanese director, but when it comes to other movies they wonder why I know "all this crap". I'm sure we all saw female directed movies that were great. There is not so much ado about women directors names in public.

I just were at the profile of Bigelow. Scrolling down at the right side there are user lists about directors. The first five images I saw  there were male directors. When I click the feature "see all related lists", just one step after the top five director lists, I see a list with Bigelow at the top. Just scroll down this list of lists and tell me how many women you see at that presenting images. There are always again women in between. But most lists show men presenting the lists.
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I think I owe honesty to you and poll members, when I first saw "Hurt Locker" (a film I loved by the way) I thought it was a movie a man could have made, let me explain this, it's not what you think... what I meant is that I was slightly disappointed that the film didn't have some "female" perspective whatsoever on the war, I'm not saying it was the right mindset but it was mine, I always expect movies directed by women to provide some new insight on a subject overused by men, when you watch American Sniper, you know it's a movie made by someone with strong patriotic opinions, when you watch Coming Home, it's another story..

...but maybe that says something about a negative bias that makes women's movies less appreciated, maybe men think that women's movies don't have as broad an appeal as men's, as if a man could make a movie that would appeal any sex and a woman would only tend to make movies that would appeal to female audiences... it's like Spike Lee's movies with gender replacing race, so to speak..

I'm sure many guys have this bias, which takes me back to Kathryn Bigelow, I'm glad that for once that a woman won an Oscar, it wasn't necessarily for a film that dealt with women, it was as spectacular and, yes, as banal, as a man's film, but I also love movies like The Piano, a film whose passion and sensitivity couldn't have been as beautifully rendered by a man as it was by the talented Jane Campion ... so I have mixed feelings to tell you the truth.
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Agree. :D
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Hi, Breumaster.

I suggest to use the links in descriptions.
Here is the example for your first option:
[link=nm0000941] - [link=tt0086955]

those will turn into:
Kathryn Bigelow - Best Defense (1984)
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Since one-option polls are not allowed, here is below one more option from me (:

Chocolat (2000) stands for Nora Ephron because she is the greatest in bitter sweet melodramas.
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Ok, good idea. I should have done this more often. ;D First option is linked.
Thank you for the second option. You guys can bomb me with. I saw three of her movies and think they're pretty good. But I wouldn't have known the name of
the director. I'll put her to the list. Thank you. :)
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Done.
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Thanks.
If you wanna them in a bold font, here is the example:
[b][link=nm0001188] - [link=tt0241303][/b]
Nora Ephron - Chocolat

Italic font is by default in lists, no way to change it, but may be set for polls this way: [i][/i]

PS: I think it was not a good idea to reverse the words: sweet bitter melodramas. There are lots of sweet melodramas, and the bitter sweet melodramas are the pearls among them ;) Moreover, semisweet and bittersweet are terms for dark chocolate
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Ok, guys! No interest in female directors? 15 views? Really?
I still wait for suggestions. :D
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No one else want to suggest female directors?
Views now = 19 / That's sad. :(
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I want to! It just took me ages to get to this thread through tons of notifications! 

FYC:
Claire Denis - Colonialism: Ogre or Angel? (1957) (often has themes regarding colonialism in her movies)
Rachel Talalay - Prolific (2010) (for being very prolific on television lately)
Katt Shea - Thriller (2018) (for often directing thrillers)
Marysia Nikitiuk - Symbolism (for heavy use of symbolism) 
Mary LambertTop 10 Horror Themed Music Videos (for being prolific in horror and music videos)
Lina WertmüllerWorking Title! (her movies often have really long titles and I don't mean opening credits, actual title can have more then ten words in it) 
Cathy YanAsian American Leadership Awards (1998) (she's Asian American and her debut feature is very much award-winning)
Alice GuyTrailblazers Of (first female director ever)
Mary Harron - 20th Century Women (2016) (her movies are often set in the past, specifically 20th century)

Also...
Katheryn Bigelow - Slow Motion Addict (2007)
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This is a very big list. Thank you Nikolay! I'll care about your suggestion before I'll consider any other suggestion that may come. I must admit that today my day is a little short, tomorrow could be tough, too. (I'm getting my new car and have a lot of things to do) But the day after tomorrow I hope I have the time to add them. I'll write a few words then. Thank you, Nikolay. Your suggestion is a big help for this idea! :D
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Big thank you, Nikolay! I just got a little prob with two of the titles, which there is no title image for at the title's page. I want to have only options with images. Maybe you have similar titles with images as cover? Please look at the bottom of the list. You see?
Now the weather cooled stronger down, so I had the brain to put your options to the list. Thank you for the patience. ;D
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Anyone else?
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Thank you for the thoughful and creative post. I'll consider your suggestions, they seem to be fun. And I also want to remember where the 25 fem director idea startet:

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/25-movie-titles-describing-big-directors-trademarks


I understood your both comments as an invitation to do so. I had only one candidate (Katherine Bigelow) and led the further suggestions to you all. So I pick up your suggestions and make them options. I don't know the most of these female directors connected to their work. Maybe I've seen something and thought it was good, but lost the connection afterwards. You have to clear, if it's good to take x or y on the list and I do. I'll try to understand that matter better, but now I have hardly any time left today. Maybe I can gain some insight next days. :)
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Hi, ElM.

You are the most welcomed person here in fact, because this thread was started thanks to you (if my memory develops well). However, comparing to others, you had more time to go with your own suggestions including the detailed descriptions. So please, when anybody has suggested Nora Ephron along with description explaining the wide range of her talent, it is not a good idea to substitute those words (suggestive opinions) with any narrowing ones that can hardly find the persuasive ground in her current 8 works. Thank you in advance for understanding, as well as for future descriptions on the above-suggested AMY HECKERLING, MIRA NAIR, SOFIA COPPOLA.

Meanwhile, I agree that Breumaster should approve and follow the same criteria as was started for male directors, or otherwise explain the new frame for female directors, in view of the fact there are not so many famous ones having their own "trademark" in its classic meaning. Because, for example, it's problematic for me to suggest some weak (in my opinion) directors having their trademark when there are such powerful, talented directors as Nadine Labaki. She is a great actress as well, so no wonder there is no so many directed works as it could be.
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Breumaster, after this poll idea is crystallized, perhaps I go suggesting Nadine Labaki with supportive description.
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ElM. to be honest if anyone works in the industry for a long time one picks up some form of style and has some trademarks, it's just that often style consists fully of conventional, learned methods, just used in a very specific way. 

Television credits are often a testament in that regard: Rachel Talalay still reatins most of her rather unusual style in each and single episode she directs of high-profile TV series where producers and showrunners are in charge. 
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I agree with you, I just figured the poll would be about big-screen female directors, that's all. I'm no authority in TV directors so I would have provided the same comment had it been about male TV or videoclip directors.
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So please, when anybody has suggested Nora Ephron along with description explaining the wide range of her talent, it is not a good idea to substitute those words (suggestive opinions) with any narrowing ones that can hardly find the persuasive ground in her current 8 works. 

That's why I was apologizing in advance, but I don't think it's a question of good or bad idea, if anyone wanted to substitute my own words, I would have no problem with that... we're all brainstorming here, aren't we? opinions are suggestive but they're not 'untouchable', sometimes two suggestions can make a better one.

To go beyond the Nora Ephron case, I don't think a trademark is a sort of common denominator between everything an artist did, sometimes, 3 or 4 movies (if they're memorable enough) are enough to identify some specific patterns of creativity. 

I actually liked the "Chocolat" term but maybe we can do better but I don't want to sound like someone's giving lessons, it's precisely because don't object to someone correcting a suggestion of mine, or suggesting a different one that I allowed myself to do the same thing... don't want any misunderstanding.
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Next suggestions:

Vera Chytilová introduced by Battle of the Sexes (2017) because of her wide comprehensive view on matriarchy vs. patriarchy matters.

Barbara Hammer introduced by La vie d'Adèle (2013) as an iconic experimental lesbian filmmaker for 40 years.
BTW, her movies are of much greater popularity than we may think staring at the IMDb pages ;)))

Andrea Arnold introduced by Shoplifters (2018) for the social realism and exquisite usage of atmosphere in her films.
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Ok, fellows. That's a nice discussion. Before we go ahead I want to clear if the idea that rised from the discussion does still fit the title and the description. We can re-arrange it in another, better suggestion that not necessarily has to be made in this PS, or by me. Maybe the construct of the idea is better to overthink for making a suggestion that has the best dignity for the acclaimed female directors you both mentioned.

To be true, beside Katherine Bigelow and Norah Ephron, I can't connect many of the very much good independet movies, I have seen and found good, to a director or female director. I might read the name in the titles or in the credits, but mostly forget them. Aronofsky was an exception when I saw one of his movies first. That's because he was always that good, that I remembered him from the first movie I saw from him. And the blockbuster directors get promoted instantly everywhere. It's like brainwashing. ;D
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