Which do you think has been the most prominent director of the entire decade?
List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097443878/
Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/jRA68gwSya0/
List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097443878/
Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/jRA68gwSya0/
Posted 2 months ago
Peter, Champion
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The answer to this question is Christopher Nolan
He directed 3 of my 10 favorite movies of the decade (Interstellar, Dunkirk, The Dark Knight Rises) I don't include Inception because the year 2010 is not part of the 10s decade.
He directed 3 of my 10 favorite movies of the decade (Interstellar, Dunkirk, The Dark Knight Rises) I don't include Inception because the year 2010 is not part of the 10s decade.
My list of the top 10: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls095413144/
I don't think it's an objective answer since there are filmmakers superior to Nolan on the list.
In my opinion, no there are not filmmakers superior to Nolan in the list.
But, yes my opinion is subjective I will still vote for Nolan and he will probably won like every time. Example: https://www.imdb.com/poll/-b6FJ5eQW8A/
But, yes my opinion is subjective I will still vote for Nolan and he will probably won like every time. Example: https://www.imdb.com/poll/-b6FJ5eQW8A/
rubyfruit76, Champion
'Good idea for a poll and well done but I can't emphasize enough how important I think it is to include the below filmmakers.
FYC:
1) Spike Lee (He'd be a glaring omission.)
2) Barry Jenkins (he made other films but he really should be on the list for one word: 'Moonlight')
3.) Sean Baker (made two of the most influential films of decade with almost no budget for the first; made shooting a film, or parts of a film, with an iPhone popular) (he's my favorite but the two directors above would be glaring omissions so much more important to include than the wonderful Baker)
3.) Ryan Coogler (he's been very influential; directed 'Black Panther' and 'Creed,' as well as the hugely influential 'Fruitville Station'))
You've got two spots open; to make room for another, you could take Nicolas Winding Refn off the list. He made 'Drive,' which was good but his other two films of the decade got Metascores of 51/100 and a 37/100 and you ask about the best directors, not the most popular. Objectively, I don't see how anyone could justify him being on the list and any of the four directors above not being included. (By contrast, 'Moonlight' got a 99/100, as well as Best Picture, Baker's films got scores of 74, 85, and 93, and Coogler's films scored 85, 82, and 88.)
I think Eastwood could also easily be removed. Out of the seven films that he made this past decade, only one was considered to be better than mediocre and only marginally. If this were a poll about whole careers, Eastwood would make sense but not for this past decade.
FYC:
1) Spike Lee (He'd be a glaring omission.)
2) Barry Jenkins (he made other films but he really should be on the list for one word: 'Moonlight')
3.) Sean Baker (made two of the most influential films of decade with almost no budget for the first; made shooting a film, or parts of a film, with an iPhone popular) (he's my favorite but the two directors above would be glaring omissions so much more important to include than the wonderful Baker)
3.) Ryan Coogler (he's been very influential; directed 'Black Panther' and 'Creed,' as well as the hugely influential 'Fruitville Station'))
You've got two spots open; to make room for another, you could take Nicolas Winding Refn off the list. He made 'Drive,' which was good but his other two films of the decade got Metascores of 51/100 and a 37/100 and you ask about the best directors, not the most popular. Objectively, I don't see how anyone could justify him being on the list and any of the four directors above not being included. (By contrast, 'Moonlight' got a 99/100, as well as Best Picture, Baker's films got scores of 74, 85, and 93, and Coogler's films scored 85, 82, and 88.)
I think Eastwood could also easily be removed. Out of the seven films that he made this past decade, only one was considered to be better than mediocre and only marginally. If this were a poll about whole careers, Eastwood would make sense but not for this past decade.
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Peter, Champion
There aren't really any spots open, but there seems to be a display error with the numbering. Hopefully it will correct itself.
Peter, Champion
Spike Lee has one feature film this decade with an IMDb rating over 6. I'm not sure the omission would be glaring. I'd prefer Coogler.
rubyfruit76, Champion
I agree that Coogler (and Jenkins and Baker) had a better decade of films than Lee but there were 33 names on the list, including Eastwood and Refn, and it would be difficult to justify them being on the list instead of any of the four I mentioned. I know that there's a problem with how many options are actually on the list so I'm not seeing two but a list that is very white and includes at least two white directors with mediocre decades and doesn't include any of the three black filmmakers I mentioned is problematic. Again, not intentionally so, of course (this has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone's intentions) but nonetheless problematic.
Also, IMDb ratings are rather unreliable, for several reasons, including that the scores aren't defined in any way to be consistent, ergo their meanings are nebulous. For example, I read on the old poll board one person's explanation that a 7 was like a C to him and a 5 like an F because, generally, American schools equate a C with 70% and an F with anything below 60%. To me, a 7 is quite good and a 5 is average.
Metacritic, which is a much more reliable system quantifiably and are based on critics, who see hundreds more films every year than the average IMDb user, on the other hand, gives every one of Lee's films in this decade above a 70, and Metacritic defines above 60 as recommended. 'BlackKklansmen,' of course was widely considered to be an important and very well-made film.
According to IMDb ratings, Lars von Trier, for one example, is about on par with Lee for the decade (although Lee made many more films), and below Lee on Metacritic, but while I personally like von Trier and think he does influential work, he's not yet a career giant like Spike Lee and the list reflects some of those career considerations, whether consciously or not. Lee is a glaring omission, I propose, for the above reasons and because the list gives Eastwood, for example, a nod for a good career, while having a mediocre decade.
I don't assert that the three African-American filmmakers of the four directors I mentioned should be included because of their race but because, certainly in the case of Jenkins and Coogler and arguably in the case of Lee, they had much better decades, even quantifiably according to both IMDb and Metacritic, than some of the filmmakers already on the list. I prefer Sean Baker's films to Jenkins', Coogler's, and Lee's, and he had a three for three stellar decade marked by unmatched innovation, but I think that Jenkins, Coogler, and Lee would be much more obvious omissions.
Also, IMDb ratings are rather unreliable, for several reasons, including that the scores aren't defined in any way to be consistent, ergo their meanings are nebulous. For example, I read on the old poll board one person's explanation that a 7 was like a C to him and a 5 like an F because, generally, American schools equate a C with 70% and an F with anything below 60%. To me, a 7 is quite good and a 5 is average.
Metacritic, which is a much more reliable system quantifiably and are based on critics, who see hundreds more films every year than the average IMDb user, on the other hand, gives every one of Lee's films in this decade above a 70, and Metacritic defines above 60 as recommended. 'BlackKklansmen,' of course was widely considered to be an important and very well-made film.
According to IMDb ratings, Lars von Trier, for one example, is about on par with Lee for the decade (although Lee made many more films), and below Lee on Metacritic, but while I personally like von Trier and think he does influential work, he's not yet a career giant like Spike Lee and the list reflects some of those career considerations, whether consciously or not. Lee is a glaring omission, I propose, for the above reasons and because the list gives Eastwood, for example, a nod for a good career, while having a mediocre decade.
I don't assert that the three African-American filmmakers of the four directors I mentioned should be included because of their race but because, certainly in the case of Jenkins and Coogler and arguably in the case of Lee, they had much better decades, even quantifiably according to both IMDb and Metacritic, than some of the filmmakers already on the list. I prefer Sean Baker's films to Jenkins', Coogler's, and Lee's, and he had a three for three stellar decade marked by unmatched innovation, but I think that Jenkins, Coogler, and Lee would be much more obvious omissions.
rubyfruit76, Champion
Before I ramble on anymore, let me say that I think that you assembled a very good list with a lot of lesser known but exceptional talent, as well as the ol' legends. Bravo: 'Well done.
Eastwood and Winding Refn are two but other directors that could be omitted in order to make space for two or more of the above include:
(In order from most justified to remove to least)
Aronofsky: Black Swan, right at the beginning of the decade, did very well at the Oscars, of course, and well on IMDb and Metacritic but his other two films this decade got a 5.8 and 6.6 on IMDb and a 68 and 75 on Metacrtic.
I love Sofia Coppola but this was not her decade: she made three features: one rated by 54 people on IMDb and apparently never reviewed, which doesn't mean it wasn't good but it can't be judged, and the other two got ok receptions but lower on IMDb than Coogler, Baker, Jenkins, and Lee, as well as Metacritic.
Kathryn Bigelow: I'd hate to see a woman come off the list but she made only two features, while, unlike Granik and Sean Baker, she certainly had the backing and funding to do more, and one had mixed reviews.
David O. Russell: He made three features: the first two were certainly considered to be very good, though nothing revolutionary, and the last was considered an unmitigated lack of inspiration and execution.
Jacques Audiard made three solid films and I'd hate to see him go but he's either on par, according to both IMDb and Metacritic, or lower, than Coogler, Jenkins, Baker, and Lee.
Eastwood and Winding Refn are two but other directors that could be omitted in order to make space for two or more of the above include:
(In order from most justified to remove to least)
Aronofsky: Black Swan, right at the beginning of the decade, did very well at the Oscars, of course, and well on IMDb and Metacritic but his other two films this decade got a 5.8 and 6.6 on IMDb and a 68 and 75 on Metacrtic.
I love Sofia Coppola but this was not her decade: she made three features: one rated by 54 people on IMDb and apparently never reviewed, which doesn't mean it wasn't good but it can't be judged, and the other two got ok receptions but lower on IMDb than Coogler, Baker, Jenkins, and Lee, as well as Metacritic.
Kathryn Bigelow: I'd hate to see a woman come off the list but she made only two features, while, unlike Granik and Sean Baker, she certainly had the backing and funding to do more, and one had mixed reviews.
David O. Russell: He made three features: the first two were certainly considered to be very good, though nothing revolutionary, and the last was considered an unmitigated lack of inspiration and execution.
Jacques Audiard made three solid films and I'd hate to see him go but he's either on par, according to both IMDb and Metacritic, or lower, than Coogler, Jenkins, Baker, and Lee.
Thanks for his help Peter and Ruby, I have made a couple of arrangements on my list but I have not taken your suggestions into account since I had not seen them, you are probably right and some names on the list should go away, try to be inclusive by choosing Coppola and Bigelow for the list knowing that they had had a poor decade but according to their criteria should leave. Baker and Jenkins have been added and when I have some free time I'll take care of including Cogler and Lee.
Several changes made in the list, including the ones you suggested, i also added several new names.
However, my list has a counting error since the number 5 is counted repeatedly
Peter, Champion
You could try moving those options around or removing them and adding them back to see if this error goes away.
Edit my list, however the problem with counting positions persists, I hope it is not inconvenient for the poll to come to light.
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rubyfruit76, Champion
Peter and Dan are looking into it. They really know what they're doing so you're in good hands. :)
It might be a crazy thing to ask... but can you drop the 2010s films from each director into their respective text boxes?
Was about to say the same thing... otherwise people will simply vote for their favorite rather than judging based only on their 2010s footprint and impact.
Done
rubyfruit76, Champion
Dracko, I think the list is amazingly right on. : ) 'Great poll.
Thanks Ruby, it was largely thanks to you
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Dan Dassow, Champion
Dracko,
I agree with Ruby that this is a great poll suggestion.
Unfortunately, somehow your list looks like it was corrupted. I have not seen this happen with a name list before.
The list have two #3s:
3. Denis Villeneuve
3. Alfonso Cuarón
... and two #7s:
7. Ethan Coen
7. Jeff Nichols
When I export the list, the numbering stays the same.
I copied your list to one of my lists and that corrected the numbering problem.
Best Director of the Decade (Copy)
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls053312960/
I recommend that you also make a copy of your list to a new list.
1. Create a new name list with the title Best Director of the Decade.
2. Click the three dot to the right of the title. You should see this menu:
4. Click the check box next to 0 selected. You should see all 35 choices selected with a blue check mark and the phrase 35 selected.
5. Click COPY TO. You should see:
Copy to another list
You lists *
-- Select a List ---
6. Click the downward arrow, then selected the new name list with the title Best Director of the Decade.
7. Click Save. This should copy all of the old version of your list to the new version of your list.
8. Click the blue DONE button.
9. Edit the new version of your list to add your question.
10. Post the link to your new list here.
I agree with Ruby that this is a great poll suggestion.
Unfortunately, somehow your list looks like it was corrupted. I have not seen this happen with a name list before.
The list have two #3s:
3. Denis Villeneuve
3. Alfonso Cuarón
... and two #7s:
7. Ethan Coen
7. Jeff Nichols
When I export the list, the numbering stays the same.
I copied your list to one of my lists and that corrected the numbering problem.
Best Director of the Decade (Copy)
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls053312960/
I recommend that you also make a copy of your list to a new list.
1. Create a new name list with the title Best Director of the Decade.
2. Click the three dot to the right of the title. You should see this menu:
- Copy from this list
- Export
- Report this list
4. Click the check box next to 0 selected. You should see all 35 choices selected with a blue check mark and the phrase 35 selected.
5. Click COPY TO. You should see:
Copy to another list
You lists *
-- Select a List ---
6. Click the downward arrow, then selected the new name list with the title Best Director of the Decade.
7. Click Save. This should copy all of the old version of your list to the new version of your list.
8. Click the blue DONE button.
9. Edit the new version of your list to add your question.
10. Post the link to your new list here.
Very thanks Dan,
New list: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097443878/
New list: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097443878/
Dan Dassow, Champion
Dracko,
Thanks for recreating the list. The new version of the list looks fine. I updated your original post to link to the new list.
Thanks for recreating the list. The new version of the list looks fine. I updated your original post to link to the new list.
rubyfruit76, Champion
Peter, Champion
Congratulations! :D
When I look at the movies Nolan did in the 2010s and Scorsese's, I was tempted to still pick Nolan. But I'm really sad about the fact that Scorsese is (at this timstamp) on 4th place. So I voted for him, this time it's protesting!
When I look at the movies Nolan did in the 2010s and Scorsese's, I was tempted to still pick Nolan. But I'm really sad about the fact that Scorsese is (at this timstamp) on 4th place. So I voted for him, this time it's protesting!
Thanks :)
Yeah, Christopher Nolan is winning!!!!!!
Jessica, Champion
Yes, because Nolan Always Wins. :)
I wonder why he isn't knighted.
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For the same reason, he has not won an Oscar yet: He is too good for them.
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BTW, I never understood the results of this poll where Hayao Miyazaki won 89% of the votes: https://www.imdb.com/poll/7izRWfNAoEg/results?answer=3&ref_=po_rv
A total mystery for me.
A total mystery for me.
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People must really love Hayao Miyazaki!
Miyazaki is a teacher, Nolan is overrated anyway
Dracko
rubyfruit76, Champion